Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #18

[gitana1]

Not the part about exigent circumstances, no. However, the point is that evidence can and does get mishandled. That doesn't mean that in this case it was mishandled, but -- IMHO -- the possibility thereof should never be dismissed.

Yes. It’s possible. But unlikely in this case.

 

[LietKynes]

Yes. It’s possible. But unlikely in this case.

Agreed.
Imo LE have been meticulous regarding evidence in this case; hence their silence.

 

[GordianKnot]

Probably a lot. Or confessions to a third party.

To your point:

Missing in Connecticut: 'No body' murder cases difficult to solve, but possible

SABBM:

DiBiase said his research on "no body" cases in the country has shown that the conviction rate is high, he said.

"About 90 percent of cases that have gone to trial have gotten convictions, which is higher than most people would expect," DiBiase said.

He compared a prosecutor's case in a "no body" situation to a three-legged stool, with it being best to have all three legs. One is forensic evidence like blood, hair and fiber, a second is a confession to police, and the third is a confession to friends, family or jailhouse informants.

"The best 'no body' cases have all of these," DiBiase said. "In most cases, because you don't have the body itself, you have to have one of these three things to make the case."
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The linked article is a good one about no-body cases.

We might all want to start doing our homework on no body investigations and prosecutions.

I think that's what we're looking at here.

JMO.

 

[Leigh80]

I think that maybe the reason no one is speaking out is because they pretty much know what happened, whether it does or does not involve BM, so there's no need to make pleas to the media or to anybody.

I hope it's not BM but chances are...
But it's hard to say with no real facts or proof. No proof he was controlling, besides an unnamed relative. No proof he was a narcissist, even though a lot of people on the interwebs are calling him that. No proof he did or did not go to Denver.

As with the land deals, as bad as the timing is, I think those things just had to be done. The selling of property and buying property were probably in the works before she went missing and there were deadlines that had to be met. Other parties involved in the deals can't just wait and wait for things to get done.

CrimeOnline said there was a closing date set for the Indiana property. <modsnip: Referenced info was removed due to sleuthing BM>

 

[Deleted member 718]

The percentage of no-body cases that make it to trial is very good.

What percentage of no body cases don't make it to trial?

 

[Janeumayer]

I shudder at the Heidi Broussard case

That one forever changed me

Yes that was a shocker for me. Husband was so awkward in front of the camera.

 

[gitana1]

My first post though I have lurked for years. My husband and have been married 25 years as of June. My husband would come across as probably angry whereas he’s not an angry man. But a lifetime as a Marine makes it seem as if he is cold with strangers. He hates social media and gossip. We have three son’s, 22, 19 and a late in life gift who is just 9 years old. I could see my husband and our boys being media shy and not engaging with the public. In fact I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2019. I had to put a Facebook message out asking people not to mention by diagnosis to my husband when they saw him. He was stressed enough and when word got out that I had cancer people (good and nosey) came crawling out of the woodwork and he didn’t like that. He is just a very private man.
I agree the LE being this quiet is strange IMO but I won’t convict BM based on what I have seen yet. Yet I share everyone’s frustration and want Suzanne found.

Yeah. The family not speaking out and BM’s failure to talk to the media or make a lot of public statements isn’t a big factor for me. There could be lots of reasons for that.

However, I look at everything combined to see if a picture forms. On their own, no one thing says much. But put together it starts to make me lean. So the combined factors for me are:

1. Statistics- women are most likely to be murdered by a intimate partner.
2. Demographics - Suzanne is not in a high risk category for murder/abduction by a stranger. (Age, race, income, profession, location).
3. The only evidence we know of that Suzanne went on a bike ride on Mother’s Day is the statement by Barry that the neighbor went to check and saw that Suzanne’s car was there but her bike was not.
4. Extensive searches were conducted that found Suzanne’s bike relatively close to home, and a “personal item” that LE won’t disclose to the public or the family (per Barry’s words in the hidden video). But no evidence or trace of Suzanne being there was found, from what we can tell, except those two things.
5. Three days after she disappeared, local LE got the CBI and FBI to be involved in the case.
6. Barry floated multiple scenarios including abduction, wandering off and falling in a stream (or something to that effect), and a lion attack, suggesting one was seen in the area. He seemed stoic and calm when discussing these possibilities.
7. LE started early on that a mountain lion attack was unlikely.
8. Nine days after she went missing, Suzanne’s home with Barry was held, and searched via a sealed search warrant.
9. Three days after that, a work site of a Barry’s was excavated after ground penetrating radar was utilized.
10. LE stated Barry was cooperating and they hoped he would continue to do so.
11. LE has not released any statements or flyers that would indicate they believe SM was riding her bike that day and are this searching for information from people who may have seen her or her bike or anyone near her on the day in question.
12. However, LE has requested ring camera footage from neighbors for the day she was reported missing AND the days leading up to that date AND FOR TWO DAYS AFTER.
13. Barry didn’t make the 911 call. He asked the neighbor to.
14. There were two, varying accounts of where Barry was that day, reported to the media.
15. LE has not made any statements to anyone who possibly has her, to release her.
16. Other than one 26 second statement, neither Barry nor the family have begged a possible abductor/killer to release her or confess or come forward AND no one has come forward from the family to talk about suzanne.
17. “Oh Suzanne...”.
18. Neither Barry nor the family are in the public eye begging for help from the public. They’re very quiet.
19. LE have not publicly cleared Barry.
20. A Barry sought and obtained a temporary guardianship over Suzanne in their former state of residence and an order selling a property of theirs, without her signature, filing the request 20 days after she disappeared, at a time when he would presumably be despondent and scared of what happened to his missing wife. But he had the wherewithal to speak with and participate in the action in another state, communicating with counsel and signing documents, for likely at least a week or so prior to the June 1st filing date. So we know money was inexplicably important at that time, to him.
21. In six weeks LE has failed to come up with a vehicle description or other description of someone or some vehicle in the area that was seen, that they want to follow up on.
22. Barry failed to issue any public statement until a week after Suzanne disappeared, stating, reportedly, that it was “too soon”.
23. According to the reporter who got his conversation on hidden camera, Barry threatened him if he later found out the guy was a reporter.


Not one of those factors alone would lead me to lean in one direction. Each one can be explained somehow via a rational, innocent reason that doesn’t point to BM’s involvement.

It’s the combination that has me leaning. A picture does start to form.

 

[gitana1]

My first post though I have lurked for years. My husband and have been married 25 years as of June. My husband would come across as probably angry whereas he’s not an angry man. But a lifetime as a Marine makes it seem as if he is cold with strangers. He hates social media and gossip. We have three son’s, 22, 19 and a late in life gift who is just 9 years old. I could see my husband and our boys being media shy and not engaging with the public. In fact I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2019. I had to put a Facebook message out asking people not to mention by diagnosis to my husband when they saw him. He was stressed enough and when word got out that I had cancer people (good and nosey) came crawling out of the woodwork and he didn’t like that. He is just a very private man.
I agree the LE being this quiet is strange IMO but I won’t convict BM based on what I have seen yet. Yet I share everyone’s frustration and want Suzanne found.

P.S., keep posting!!! Nice to hear a new voice.

 

[Janeumayer]

I don’t think the real issue is with family staying quiet about the investigation, as likely there’s nothing to talk about, because they probably know as little as we know. Doesn’t seem to stop us though . And, there’s no problem with them not talking about BM either to protect his children. I’m sure they have an opinion, but that doesn’t help Suzanne. What is most perplexing is practically NO ONE speaking about Suzanne, the person, except for how wonderful she is. No personal anecdotes about her childhood, about her involvement in the church, community friends, clubs she may have belonged to, talking about Suzanne, who she was, what she loved in life, other than her children and husband (IF she still loved him). What prevents family and friends from talking about Suzanne? I suspect THEY suspect she’s long gone and someone close to her is responsible. They can’t speak out about Suzanne, as much as they might want to, because any encounter with a journalist could raise the “not so comfortable” questions they do not want to answer. JMHO.

You know.... Now that we are mentioning church, the family not speaking, could it have something to do with the type of religion they follow? Could religion have something to do with them not being able to express themselves to the public? I don’t know. Just putting it out there as a far reaching possibility why they cannot plead for her. MOO IMO

 

[Janeumayer]

On June 4 TD posted an update video, 5:38 into the video it is written on the screen that he had spoken with CBI twice.

I thought the van suspect was 2 1/2 hours away?

NM, I’m way behind. Was already explained, lol

 

[Janeumayer]

Suzanne's missing photo shows her wearing AirPods which can be tracked similar to an iPhone.

How to find your lost AirPods

How to find your lost AirPods

Interesting... Great catch!

 

[gitana1]

That’s bc the youtuber set it all up. Now he’s covering his behind. Bet he’s being considered as an accessory after the fact. I’d be back pedaling as fast as I could go.

ETA: He’s been known to follow suspected perps, Idaho in the Daybell case, for example, and try to get them on camera. Whatever he records, and could help LE will be inadmissible as evidence. Anything from further investigation bc of leads from the videos will be inadmissible. Fruit of the poison tree. So now LE will have to have a different source to admit evidence at any legal proceedings, for search warrants, and rework their case. He’s potentially botching up the investigation. Probably why LE doesn’t call him back.

What makes you say that it would be inadmissible and that he’s hurting the case? CO is a one party consent state.

 

[Hatfield]

BBM ITA but what if there is something on the other side of the scale that we can’t discuss here r/t a possible abduction scenario? While it is nowhere near enough to tip the scale it is something that I can’t unsee or get out of my thoughts. I would gladly share if it wasn’t against the rules. But hopefully it is acceptable to say that I did a google search recommended by a very reliable OP and found something interesting. I still believe it is BM based on his behavior/plea/TD video/reward offered/home & work site search/lack of reaching out to media/motive & opportunity/statistics etc. But my mind is open now just a little bit (a crack or smidge only) to the possibility of an abduction based on something that we aren’t allowed to discuss on this thread. I really enjoy being on WS and want to respect the rules. I’m sorry to bring it up without giving more information because that drives me crazy when I read things like that...but it is pretty easily found by a google search for something in Chaffee County. The only good thing about an abduction would be that SM might possibly still be alive so it gave me a glimmer of hope and a possible explanation for everyone keeping quiet. And OT I just watched the 1st episode of Michelle McNamara’s I’ll Be Gone in the Dark on HBO and it’s so good. She reminds me of us here on WS...her husband said her happy place was under the covers at night researching the GSK. My DH was always asking me what I was doing because the light bothered him so now I dim my phone and look at it under the covers late at night. Obsessed!

JMO
It is good to find out whatever we can find out about a case and sometimes other things do pan out. We are limited here on what we can discuss but it doesn't mean there are not other things "out there" that exist that may end up being a missing link of sorts.

I always seem to have a few other theories that I keep on the list although they may be toward the middle or bottom of the list, it doesnt mean we have to throw them out entirely or quite yet.

Hopefully soon something solid will be able to be found out and released by LE about the progress of the case. The general silence in this case from LE and from anyone that knew her is very unusual to me. The silence in itself I think may be a clue of sorts.

 

[LietKynes]

You know.... Now that we are mentioning church, the family not speaking, could it have something to do with the type of religion they follow? Could religion have something to do with them not being able to express themselves to the public? I don’t know. Just putting it out there as a far reaching possibility why they cannot plead for her. MOO IMO

Good point. ^^^
Who knows, though ?

And with all due respect to Suzanne's religion or anyone else's faith... I'm not sure if a religion would cause anyone to have difficulty expressing themselves in an emergency case.
And imo a person going missing is an emergency.
We weren't even told what she was wearing and on what specific day she vanished.
I find that very sad.

 

[lamlawindy]

Yes. It’s possible. But unlikely in this case.

I would've said exactly what you just wrote back during my prosecutor years We'll just have to wait & see how careful/thorough they were if/when this goes to court.

 

[Janeumayer]

Good point. ^^^
Who knows, though ?

And with all due respect to Suzanne's religion or anyone else's faith... I'm not sure if a religion would cause anyone to have difficulty expressing themselves in an emergency case.
And imo a person going missing is an emergency.
We weren't even told what she was wearing and on what specific day she vanished.
I find that very sad.

It is, so very sad. No single description of her appearance. Extremely odd.
It doesn’t go along with a missing person case/flyer. Where are the basic stats?

 

[LietKynes]

I think that maybe the reason no one is speaking out is because they pretty much know what happened, whether it does or does not involve BM, so there's no need to make pleas to the media or to anybody.

I hope it's not BM but chances are...
But it's hard to say with no real facts or proof. No proof he was controlling, besides an unnamed relative. No proof he was a narcissist, even though a lot of people on the interwebs are calling him that. No proof he did or did not go to Denver.

As with the land deals, as bad as the timing is, I think those things just had to be done. The selling of property and buying property were probably in the works before she went missing and there were deadlines that had to be met. Other parties involved in the deals can't just wait and wait for things to get done.

CrimeOnline said there was a closing date set for the Indiana property. <modsnip: Referenced info was removed due to sleuthing BM>

bbm
If this did not involve BM in any way, I think we'd be seeing a very different reaction from Suzanne's side of the family.

We'd be asked to be on the lookout and what she was wearing and a photo of the bike in case someone somewhere saw her riding it Sun. morning.
And a more recent photo than one taken at least a year ago.

As far as a random kidnapper, even if the family believes this may have happened and not a person known to Suzanne -- then yes-- there is a need to speak up and keep her case in the media !
There was never not a need for a plea , Imo, and that's what is baffling about this case, as no one has begged for her return or pleaded for the abductor to release her.
Saying that you'll give a significant sum for her safe return with "...no questions asked..", makes no sense.
Of course there'd be questions.

LE have put time and energy into finding Suzanne to the point of tearing up a concrete foundation and they're not going to "let it go", if Suzanne is returned -- without an explanation !

As far as liquidating Suzanne's assets and having her declared unable to agree to the sale ("incapacitated") I find telling.
IF she's being held my a mystery abductor, she may be in full control of her senses.
As in not incapacitated.

IF the family thinks BM is involved --they still need to make a plea to him via a presser for answers.
Her family deserves to know what happened.
Imo.

Barry Morphew files for guardianship of missing wife, Suzanne Morphew
"...The pending petition states that Suzanne Morphew, who hasn’t been seen since May 10, “is deemed incapacitated under Indiana Law because she cannot be located upon reasonable inquiry.”
The wording at above link does make it sound like someone wants us to think there was reasonable inquiry.
I'd beg to differ.
MOO

Barry Morphew files for guardianship of missing wife Suzanne Morphew – Crime Online

"...The family member said they were unaware of Barry Morphew’s petition for guardianship when CrimeOnline asked them to comment on the matter...."

I wonder if the family found out the same way as the rest of us-- via msm ?
Imo.

 

[Dave F.]

You know.... Now that we are mentioning church, the family not speaking, could it have something to do with the type of religion they follow? Could religion have something to do with them not being able to express themselves to the public? I don’t know. Just putting it out there as a far reaching possibility why they cannot plead for her. MOO IMO

Without sleuthing anyone's religion, I would suggest that anyone look over this explanation of the breakdown of mainstream religions in the United States. Their church is in there. If you see one that has some particular canons against expressing themselves in public or is against fully investigating when a member of their church goes missing...............I personally would like to know so I can avoid that church in the future. IMO
https://abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/855a3Religion.pdf

 

[Madeleine74]

It is, so very sad. No single description of her appearance. Extremely odd.
It doesn’t go along with a missing person case/flyer. Where are the basic stats?

The basic stats including appearance details are entered into NAMUS, the national DB for missing people.

 

[Boxer]

I think that maybe the reason no one is speaking out is because they pretty much know what happened, whether it does or does not involve BM, so there's no need to make pleas to the media or to anybody.

I hope it's not BM but chances are...
But it's hard to say with no real facts or proof. No proof he was controlling, besides an unnamed relative. No proof he was a narcissist, even though a lot of people on the interwebs are calling him that. No proof he did or did not go to Denver.

As with the land deals, as bad as the timing is, I think those things just had to be done. The selling of property and buying property were probably in the works before she went missing and there were deadlines that had to be met. Other parties involved in the deals can't just wait and wait for things to get done.

CrimeOnline said there was a closing date set for the Indiana property. <modsnip: Referenced info was removed due to sleuthing BM>

MOO if they are fairly certain she is dead and looking for a body, then sadly they are looking for a body. But they are not appealing for help. For instance mountain bikers, hikers, birders, all could be of tremendous help.