Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #18

[Tate123]

Does anyone know how to contact Lauren Scharf to see what the news is tonight?

She texted and called the CBI spokesperson and Chaffee County Sheriff and is waiting to hear back.
https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV/status/1278110567685926913

 

[10ofRods]

I agree with you. They don't need help other than what they ask for.

I posted upstream some links to missing people in National Parks. They specifically requested no volunteer searchers.

As far as her physical description there are pictures of her all over the web, in news articles, any tv news shots, the flyers. Back in the old days, they pretty much had to rely on written descriptions and grainy black and white newspaper photos.

When I hear a news blurb or read an article and want to know what someone looks like, I Google the heck out of that name or event. I'd be willing to bet that other people do this, too.

I may have lost the point of what you're saying, but typically, firemen are not considered "volunteer searchers" but instead "first responders." Even volunteer departments.

When the NP say "no volunteers" it's code for "please don't try to belay yourself down a sandstone cliff in 110° weather to try and save a stranger." IME. Good advice, BTW. Good-hearted people have lost their lives, searching as volunteers.

While there are pictures of Suzanne, not one dates to before 2017 IMO. So...usually...there's a more recent picture. I guess the family stopped using cameras sometime after Christmas 2018.

I'd love to know when the Turquoise Helmet picture was taken - it may be early 2019. But it's the most recent picture of Suzanne, surely.

 

[Cassady]

She texted and called the CBI spokesperson and Chaffee County Sheriff and is waiting to hear back.
https://twitter.com/LaurenScharfTV/status/1278110567685926913

Also, according to the link above, the spouse of the missing person was not in the Chaffee County Jail when she called.

 

[GordianKnot]

The transactions have probably been planned for sometime and there are probably advisors and/or attorneys helping with this. There is probably a 1031 involved. Motive = long term financial stability for family...IMO

I don't think there's one single thing that's stable about that family's finances.

JMO.

 

[Fireflize]

I think Suzanne's family is being silent because they have a good idea of what happened. They also have two young ladies to think about, who are no doubt heartbroken and very worried and scared right now.

MOO

ITA with that. Moo

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[Ontario Mom]

I may have lost the point of what you're saying, but typically, firemen are not considered "volunteer searchers" but instead "first responders." Even volunteer departments.

When the NP say "no volunteers" it's code for "please don't try to belay yourself down a sandstone cliff in 110° weather to try and save a stranger." IME. Good advice, BTW. Good-hearted people have lost their lives, searching as volunteers.

While there are pictures of Suzanne, not one dates to before 2017 IMO. So...usually...there's a more recent picture. I guess the family stopped using cameras sometime after Christmas 2018.

I'd love to know when the Turquoise Helmet picture was taken - it may be early 2019. But it's the most recent picture of Suzanne, surely.

I've given all this probably way more thought than it needed but, the fact is, we really have no idea what she looked like Mother's Day weekend.
It's like we have just enough info to make us question everything (her cancer diagnosis and treatment, times 2) and not enough information to rule out the most obvious such as hair loss, weight loss, or gain, etc.
The fact that all the pics used in the media about her, are over a year old, also makes me wonder why in the heck year old pics are being used?
I've had some health issues and I look a LOT different now, than I did a year ago. And even two years ago.
In fact, most folks (men and women both) in the 50 and 50+ crowd, tend to change considerably in a year's time if there's been any health concerns.
I don't even know if we'll ever see different pics of her but I have a feeling she really looked much different than the pics we're seeing.


jmo

 

[oviedo]

Probably not that many defense attorneys out there willing to waive their 100k payment unless/until their client's spouse is located safe and sound, though.

The attorneys I know start at $50k for a simple criminal charge - we don’t do criminal so we refer - and never have we referred for murder charges so my guess is $150k- and up based on criminal charges that were not murder - yikes !
JMO

 

[FelicityLemon]

RSBM

Curious, if a couple was walking by in the distance, and the woman appears to be struggling, are you looking for a tall woman? How would you know?

I actually could tell based on my own height, if I had a clue what to look for to begin with I think, but without the info on a poster...one walking by with a little distance would not mean anything. Other than seeing the person face to face what do you have? After months of lock down you honestly think her hair looked like one of her photos?? She could be entirely grey or just long roots. The photos while incredibly attractive (and no doubt she is) are intended glamor shots IMO. I'd do it too for posting if I cared, I'm not knockings her BTW for the record...

I know you're not knocking her. This probably won't be received well here, but the lack of precise physical description makes me think that early on maybe they weren't looking for her as a live, missing person or for "when did you last see this woman?". Maybe they already knew or had a good idea of where she was or what happened. When they were searching the trails and growth, there wasn't a need because she either would have been found or she wouldn't. Not sure how else to word this but in the beginning, any female found alive or deceased would be easily identified.

I know what you're saying regarding height, weight, hair color, etc. Maybe they didn't want to restrict anyone's memory by giving a definite description other than her photos. People might discount seeing her because to them, she didn't look as tall or blonde or fat or thin like the description said. People misjudge and misremember. A 'missing woman' lets people be open to a wider memory and no preconceived idea of what she looks like other than the photos. Broadcast that she's 5' 11" 105 lbs and people will still swear they saw her, but "she was so much shorter and stockier than described".

I also think that if she looked significantly different than the photos on the flyers, either it would have been mentioned or more recent photos used if there are any.

I think those things, but I have no idea why they haven't described her in a traditional way. If they thought it would help, I feel sure they would have described her in those terms when they asked for information. They know what they're doing.

 

[MassGuy]

I've given all this probably way more thought than it needed but, the fact is, we really have no idea what she looked like Mother's Day weekend.
It's like we have just enough info to make us question everything (her cancer diagnosis and treatment, times 2) and not enough information to rule out the most obvious such as hair loss, weight loss, or gain, etc.
The fact that all the pics used in the media about her, are over a year old, also makes me wonder why in the heck year old pics are being used?
I've had some health issues and I look a LOT different now, than I did a year ago. And even two years ago.
In fact, most folks (men and women both) in the 50 and 50+ crowd, tend to change considerably in a year's time if there's been any health concerns.
I don't even know if we'll ever see different pics of her but I have a feeling she really looked much different than the pics we're seeing.


jmo

I think we’d see a more current picture if they thought it was possible she was abducted or something (and she looked different).

No height, weight, eye color, hair color, or current photo; like we had that in the Watts, Berreth, and Stauch cases.

 

[MassGuy]

According to the CBI Spokesperson Susan Medina, there have been no arrests and no updates in the #MissingPerson case of #SuzanneMorphew This despite rumors of an arrest. #FindSuzanne

https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1278147135091998721?s=21

 

[Ontario Mom]

I don’t think it matters who exactly sent the email to the church. More importantly, who provided the information to the sender. Most likely BM as it supports his ideas about what happened. However, it does not seem to support LE’s idea of what took place. MOO

I do think it matters, especially considering it may become evidence at some point.
Who sent it, when it was sent, the digital records of the person who sent it, and who they were in contact with immediately before and after that message was sent.
And any and all direct conversations between the sender, and who they were in contact with re: this case.

jmo

 

[FelicityLemon]

I may have lost the point of what you're saying, but typically, firemen are not considered "volunteer searchers" but instead "first responders." Even volunteer departments.

When the NP say "no volunteers" it's code for "please don't try to belay yourself down a sandstone cliff in 110° weather to try and save a stranger." IME. Good advice, BTW. Good-hearted people have lost their lives, searching as volunteers.

While there are pictures of Suzanne, not one dates to before 2017 IMO. So...usually...there's a more recent picture. I guess the family stopped using cameras sometime after Christmas 2018.

I'd love to know when the Turquoise Helmet picture was taken - it may be early 2019. But it's the most recent picture of Suzanne, surely.

I know, I don't always express myself clearly!

Absolutely they are First Responders, too! *I read that when it's a volunteer fire department they are so needed for a fire should one break out and don't want to deplete that resource. As for medical, don't law enforcement personnel at least have really good first aid training, so that would be available. In more remote areas like this, calling in firefighters from other areas to fight a fire would take such a long time?

My point was solely about volunteer searchers - the National Parks website said only that they weren't requesting the help of volunteer searchers. My point was to the comment that someone was saying LE wasn't asking for the public to search and it was unusual that in other searches they wanted as many people as possible. Maybe it's different when it's a National Park because they don't want a searcher to become a problem when they themselves get injured.

I'm guessing all over the place, but that's all we can do until we know.

*If I can find the website where I read that a couple of days ago, I'll post a link. I know it was either a county website about volunteer firefighters or a National Parks website.

 

[al66pine]

Attorney's Fees in Criminal Cases?

I believe that contingency fee retainers are not allowed in criminal cases in most states...IMO...

@Cassady From our wikipedia friends: "... most states forbid contingent fees in criminal cases."
my 2 cts.
........................................................................................................................................................................
Attorney's fee - Wikipedia
"Attorney's fee is a chiefly United States term for compensation for legal services performed by an attorney...for a client, in or out of court. It may be an hourly, flat-rate or contingent fee...
"A contingent fee, or contingency fee, is an attorney fee that is made contingent on the outcome of a case. A typical contingent fee in a tort case is normally one third to forty percent of the recovery, but the attorney does not recover a fee unless money is recovered for the client. States prohibit contingent fees in certain types of cases. For example, most states forbid contingent fees in criminal cases." bbm

 

[mom2chloe]

Yes that was a shocker for me. Husband was so awkward in front of the camera.

As many of us who would say we would scream before the cameras, he also had a missing infant so maybe in that scenario we would keep mum? Idk but that case was different in that mother and child were both missing. Also to his credit the poor guy had everyone suspecting him of the worst regarding mother and child. I’m thrilled that I misjudged it and at least the baby was unharmed.
My point is, even he spoke out as awkward and prejudicial as it was. I wish someone would speak out with regard to SM or her girls. IMO

 

[mom2chloe]

I know you're not knocking her. This probably won't be received well here, but the lack of precise physical description makes me think that early on maybe they weren't looking for her as a live, missing person or for "when did you last see this woman?". Maybe they already knew or had a good idea of where she was or what happened. When they were searching the trails and growth, there wasn't a need because she either would have been found or she wouldn't. Not sure how else to word this but in the beginning, any female found alive or deceased would be easily identified.

I know what you're saying regarding height, weight, hair color, etc. Maybe they didn't want to restrict anyone's memory by giving a definite description other than her photos. People might discount seeing her because to them, she didn't look as tall or blonde or fat or thin like the description said. People misjudge and misremember. A 'missing woman' lets people be open to a wider memory and no preconceived idea of what she looks like other than the photos. Broadcast that she's 5' 11" 105 lbs and people will still swear they saw her, but "she was so much shorter and stockier than described".

I also think that if she looked significantly different than the photos on the flyers, either it would have been mentioned or more recent photos used if there are any.

I think those things, but I have no idea why they haven't described her in a traditional way. If they thought it would help, I feel sure they would have described her in those terms when they asked for information. They know what they're doing.

Truer words were never spoken! IMO

We have no idea what she looked like recently and although it’s been alleged that she is a two time cancer survivor, SM was approaching the age of menopause and frankly we cannot determine what she looked like or how “healthy” she looked. Menopause can also cause you to gain/lose weight as much if not more than any cancer treatment.
IMO I wonder if SM kicked cancer’s twice and after spending her entire adult life with one man and knowing her youngest was about to free the nest soon too she didn’t just decide to move on. Although I don’t mean in an abandonment way, perhaps she met up with another interest possibly a fellow parishioner, mountain biker or a coworker of BM. Things happen and maybe BM disabled the video security cameras because he had already seen enough or as much would make him livid as to his wife’s new interest even if it was innocent on SM’s part and she had zero blame for any misgivings.
We have heard that BM was controlling for a while. Doesn’t take much to venture into he thought she disrespected him and he couldn’t stand that. Many have been killed for less reason.
I don’t think it’s an accident that LE didn’t want BM or his fellow firemen to participate in searches. Maybe they didn’t want them to fall to an accident but maybe they didn’t want them contaminating a crime scene either. After all, if BM felt slighted by either his wife and/or a coworker he would have taken whatever steps necessary to eliminate whatever he found unsatisfactory. IMO

 

[gitana1]

LE does not put public safety or looking for a missing person on the back burner for the sake of tourism. IMO

Welllllll......I don’t know if that’s exactly true. Ahem. Florida. Ahem.

But that’s for another thread!

 

[BeckyF]

Welllllll......I don’t know if that’s exactly true. Ahem. Florida. Ahem.

But that’s for another thread!

Ahem. Link.

 

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