Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #21

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  • #341
That’s such a vast area. If he didn’t have his phone on, and traveled in a vehicle that couldn’t be tracked, then the odds are stacked against law enforcement.

I think he made a ton of mistakes, which is why law enforcement didn’t buy the bike ride story.

They were on to him right away, and the only logical explanation I can come up with, is they caught him in a massive lie, or learned something incredibly incriminating.
If and when he is ever arrested, reading the search warrants and arrest warrants will be so interesting. I hope we are both wrong and they do find Suzanne.
 
  • #342
I’m late to the party today. I just checked at Fox21 & LS Twitter and as far as I can tell LS has not posted her video about Suzanne yet. I’m looking forward to hearing her interviews with Suzanne’s friends & people who know her in town. Lauren will probably post it tomorrow because she said she hoped to do it Tuesday or Wednesday and then the interview with the neighbor who lives by the dig site the next day! I can’t wait! :D
 
  • #343
Marylamby, I want to second your comment here -- as an old woman, one who has heard every sort of intentional, unintentional, and cruel comment about women from men, I did cringe a bit when the two PE men asked how she "felt as a woman" because I could see how offputting that comment was for her personally. Here she is, a young reporter soberly presenting the info she has gathered on a criminal case, and she gets that sort of comment. She was so polite, but on her face you could almost see her counting to ten in her head, thinking, "When, oh when, will I simply be treated as a person with relevant info on a murder case?"

I've been here for a long time and yet I still find it really kind of amazing how we can all watch the same interview, presser, whatever, and come away with just polar opposite impressions.
I did not see the slightest hint of what you describe.
I didn't see her expression change in any way, that would make me think she felt such a comment was offputting, as you say.

jmo
 
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  • #345
We'll have to wait for the interview IMO
Did you ever share a link to where this information came from? Sorry if I missed it.
 
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Not saying he put a bike on a bike rack, saying that he probably took the bike off of a bike rack and then, as you say, tossed it into the back of his truck. JMO

That’d be nice if there was paint on the bike from the bed of his truck. Or bike paint in the truck bed. Surely, he’d thought of that?
 
  • #348
bbm
Holy crap. There was tape around the house from the evening of the 10 th ?
Maybe.

But that's big, if accurate.

Speculation alert :
Something (or someone ?) made LE's hinky meter explode.
Imo.
I certainly hope the house of a missing woman was cordoned off after her disappearance and a wrecked bike was found! If I don’t return from a morning tennis match, and my baby blue racquet (true) is found on the side of the road, PLEASE PLEASE make sure LE holds my house and turns over every stone!! I’m counting on you people :)
 
  • #349
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This really is not about being naive enough to believe searches are an exercise to checkmark a box to clear the hubby. Besides the state and U.S. Constitution, it's about understanding that police must satisfy very specific requirements to obtain a search warrant.

I believe once you truly grasp the 10 "must-haves" to obtain a search warrant, only then will you be able to erase any mental boundaries that might exist between a warrant for say a concrete slab at one's workplace, and a tool shed in one's backyard.

The search warrants for this case are currently sealed but once made public, you really owe it to yourself to obtain a copy of this particular search warrant and read it closely. Chances are good that you'll never forget it.

Until then, consider that each of the following criteria had to be met before LE was able to search the concrete slab (i.e., residential building site). Please take note of items 1 - 3 especially.

For both an arrest and a search warrant, the number one probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed.

  1. A warrant MUST HAVE an affidavit of probable cause attached to it which tells the person issuing the warrant that there is probable cause for the search and seizure of the item in question. Probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed and it’s the same standard that law enforcement must satisfy to arrest a person for a crime.
  2. A warrant MUST HAVE been based on reliable information by some witness or an informant;
  3. A warrant MUST HAVE the information used to obtain it corroborated by another source other than that same witness or the informant.
  4. A warrant MUST be signed and sealed by the issuing judge,
  5. A warrant MUST have a specific date and time of issuance
  6. A warrant MUST identify specifically the property to be seized
  7. A warrant MUST name and describe with particularity the person or place to be searched,
  8. A warrant MUST be executed within a specified period of time not to exceed two days from the date of issuance
  9. A warrant MUST be served in the day time unless otherwise authorized on the warrant,
  10. A warrant MUST contain state title of the judicial officer who issued the warrant. This person MUST also certify that he/she has found probable cause exists based upon the facts sworn to or affirmed by police based on the witness or the informant.
Search and Seizure Frequently Asked Questions
 
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  • #350
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BM supplied his own evidence that he was possibly guilty. His Sunday alibis fell apart. So he’s lying. At least about his whereabouts on Sunday. So the age old question is “Were you lying then or are you lying now?” We know he’s a liar. Once you know a person lies, do you ever give them the benefit of the doubt again?
 
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  • #351
This really is not about being naive enough to believe searches are an exercise to checkmark a box to clear the hubby. Besides the state and U.S. Constitution, it's about understanding that police must satisfy very specific requirements to obtain a search warrant.

I believe once you truly grasp the 10 "must-haves" to obtain a search warrant, only then will you be able to erase any mental boundaries that might exist between a warrant for say a concrete slab at one's workplace, and a tool shed in one's backyard.

The search warrants for this case are currently sealed but once made public, you really owe it to yourself to obtain a copy of this particular search warrant and read it closely. Chances are good that you'll never forget it.

Until then, consider that each of the following criteria had to be met before LE was able to search the concrete slab (i.e., residential building site). Please take note of items 1 - 3 especially.

For both an arrest and a search warrant, the number one probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed.

  1. A warrant MUST HAVE an affidavit of probable cause attached to it which tells the person issuing the warrant that there is probable cause for the search and seizure of the item in question. Probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed and it’s the same standard that law enforcement must satisfy to arrest a person for a crime.
  2. A warrant MUST HAVE been based on reliable information by some witness or an informant;
  3. A warrant MUST HAVE the information used to obtain it corroborated by another source other than that same witness or the informant.
  4. A warrant MUST be signed and sealed by the issuing judge,
  5. A warrant MUST have a specific date and time of issuance
  6. A warrant MUST identify specifically the property to be seized
  7. A warrant MUST name and describe with particularity the person or place to be searched,
  8. A warrant MUST be executed within a specified period of time not to exceed two days from the date of issuance
  9. A warrant MUST be served in the day time unless otherwise authorized on the warrant,
  10. A warrant MUST contain state title of the judicial officer who issued the warrant. This person MUST also certify that he/she has found probable cause exists based upon the facts sworn to or affirmed by police based on the witness or the informant.
Search and Seizure Frequently Asked Questions
Thank you, this is very helpful to me. So in other words..they would have needed 2 eye witnesses to say that they saw something odd early morning at the job site?
 
  • #352
This really is not about being naive enough to believe searches are an exercise to checkmark a box to clear the hubby. Besides the state and U.S. Constitution, it's about understanding that police must satisfy very specific requirements to obtain a search warrant.

I believe once you truly grasp the 10 "must-haves" to obtain a search warrant, only then will you be able to erase any mental boundaries that might exist between a warrant for say a concrete slab at one's workplace, and a tool shed in one's backyard.

The search warrants for this case are currently sealed but once made public, you really owe it to yourself to obtain a copy of this particular search warrant and read it closely. Chances are good that you'll never forget it.

Until then, consider that each of the following criteria had to be met before LE was able to search the concrete slab (i.e., residential building site). Please take note of items 1 - 3 especially.

For both an arrest and a search warrant, the number one probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed.

  1. A warrant MUST HAVE an affidavit of probable cause attached to it which tells the person issuing the warrant that there is probable cause for the search and seizure of the item in question. Probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed and it’s the same standard that law enforcement must satisfy to arrest a person for a crime.
  2. A warrant MUST HAVE been based on reliable information by some witness or an informant;
  3. A warrant MUST HAVE the information used to obtain it corroborated by another source other than that same witness or the informant.
  4. A warrant MUST be signed and sealed by the issuing judge,
  5. A warrant MUST have a specific date and time of issuance
  6. A warrant MUST identify specifically the property to be seized
  7. A warrant MUST name and describe with particularity the person or place to be searched,
  8. A warrant MUST be executed within a specified period of time not to exceed two days from the date of issuance
  9. A warrant MUST be served in the day time unless otherwise authorized on the warrant,
  10. A warrant MUST contain state title of the judicial officer who issued the warrant. This person MUST also certify that he/she has found probable cause exists based upon the facts sworn to or affirmed by police based on the witness or the informant.
Search and Seizure Frequently Asked Questions
Valuable, thank you. This should be added to the reference pages if it isnt already.
 
  • #353
Thank you, this is very helpful to me. So in other words..they would have needed 2 eye witnesses to say that they saw something odd early morning at the job site?

Not exactly. A corroborating witness could be the owner stating he hired BM to perform certain work at the site, and that he had full access to do so on the date the neighbor alleges he was there.
 
  • #354
I don’t believe Suzanne will be found, but it’s not because he planned it well.

He had the knowledge, equipment, and most importantly, time.

I really want you to be wrong about this.
Her girls deserve to have their mom back to say goodbye.
 
  • #355
Because they have been seen walking together, we cannot assume 'all is fine'.
I saw my 2 neighbours walking together past my home, to pick up their children, smiling and laughing.
They were living together.
Next day I hear, from the female neighbour, they have separated, he ALREADY has a girlfriend, and my friend is seeking a divorce.
He immediately moved out, and now is very aggressive towards the female.:(:(
Thank goodness, she doesn't have 'monies'.
Life can go pear-shaped pretty quickly, that's for sure.
 
  • #356
If there was one person that you wish Lauren could interview, who would it be? I know Barry is the obvious choice, but I would love to hear from the neighbor who called 911.

Can LE ask someone not to divulge any details of the case or is it a choice? Would the neighbor be unable to talk to the press?
 
  • #357
This really is not about being naive enough to believe searches are an exercise to checkmark a box to clear the hubby. Besides the state and U.S. Constitution, it's about understanding that police must satisfy very specific requirements to obtain a search warrant.

I believe once you truly grasp the 10 "must-haves" to obtain a search warrant, only then will you be able to erase any mental boundaries that might exist between a warrant for say a concrete slab at one's workplace, and a tool shed in one's backyard.

The search warrants for this case are currently sealed but once made public, you really owe it to yourself to obtain a copy of this particular search warrant and read it closely. Chances are good that you'll never forget it.

Until then, consider that each of the following criteria had to be met before LE was able to search the concrete slab (i.e., residential building site). Please take note of items 1 - 3 especially.

For both an arrest and a search warrant, the number one probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed.

  1. A warrant MUST HAVE an affidavit of probable cause attached to it which tells the person issuing the warrant that there is probable cause for the search and seizure of the item in question. Probable cause is the reasonable expectation that a crime was or is being committed and it’s the same standard that law enforcement must satisfy to arrest a person for a crime.
  2. A warrant MUST HAVE been based on reliable information by some witness or an informant;
  3. A warrant MUST HAVE the information used to obtain it corroborated by another source other than that same witness or the informant.
  4. A warrant MUST be signed and sealed by the issuing judge,
  5. A warrant MUST have a specific date and time of issuance
  6. A warrant MUST identify specifically the property to be seized
  7. A warrant MUST name and describe with particularity the person or place to be searched,
  8. A warrant MUST be executed within a specified period of time not to exceed two days from the date of issuance
  9. A warrant MUST be served in the day time unless otherwise authorized on the warrant,
  10. A warrant MUST contain state title of the judicial officer who issued the warrant. This person MUST also certify that he/she has found probable cause exists based upon the facts sworn to or affirmed by police based on the witness or the informant.
Search and Seizure Frequently Asked Questions

All 10 points are true. However, remember that "[p]robable cause is to be determined according to 'the factual and practical considerations of everyday life on which reasonable and prudent men, not legal technicians, act.'" Brinegar v. United States, 338 U.S. 160, 175 (1949). Probable cause is nowhere near beyond a reasonable doubt; it's not even the clear-and-convincing evidence standard that's used to terminate parental rights. The probable cause standard is a durable, practical one, but it's not the end goal in a criminal case.
 
  • #358
If there was one person that you wish Lauren could interview, who would it be? I know Barry is the obvious choice, but I would love to hear from the neighbor who called 911.

Can LE ask someone not to divulge any details of the case or is it a choice? Would the neighbor be unable to talk to the press?
Law enforcement can ask people not to divulge any details, but it is always a choice at this stage.

The neighbor would be able to speak to the press, but I definitely don’t see that happening. It sounds like LE has asked a lot of people to keep quiet, and it appears they are all complying.
 
  • #359
BM supplied his own evidence that he was possibly guilty. His Sunday alibis fell apart. So he’s lying. At least about his whereabouts on Sunday. So the age old question is “Were you lying then or are you lying now?” We know he’s a liar. Once you know a person lies, do you ever give them the benefit of the doubt again?
I’m confused because I have never heard LE say what BMs alibi was. I thought it was stated he was on a landscaping job. Whoever started the rumor he was on a fire training weekend is the one who lied.

But that doesn’t change my mind that I believe he is guilty.
 
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  • #360
BM supplied his own evidence that he was possibly guilty. His Sunday alibis fell apart. So he’s lying. At least about his whereabouts on Sunday. So the age old question is “Were you lying then or are you lying now?” We know he’s a liar. Once you know a person lies, do you ever give them the benefit of the doubt again?

I don't know that this is true. AFAIK, the public has never been told what he told LE about where he was on Sunday, or that his alibi fell apart.
We know there was some conflicting into at first about him either being in Denver for firefighter training, or for work, but it's never been cleared up, where that info came from.
 
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