Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #31

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  • #921
Thank you. I agree completely. That's what he's been doing since day one.
I also guarantee he's been playing these games all of his life.
JMO
Narc PD kicks in in early adult life, and yes, he's been doing this forever.
 
  • #922
This started with a wonky wall, but now the walls closing in :cool:
 
  • #923
We have a case in Australia, where the daughter, even after the trial, where her father is found Guilty, still appears to be under his influence, not absorbing 'what happened'.
The father lied for years to everyone.
She supports, and visits him.
There was even CCTV of the father driving to the site, to dispose of the body BUT she just will not accept this.

Not unlike Stockholm syndrome, where relatives take on a hostage-like persona.
The Morphew daughters are hostages to their current situation. BM is using the "Royal We" in some of his answers, ensuring that he speaks on behalf of a three-person unit.
Getting them out of that situation and into a therapeutic environment asap is going to be crucial to their future well-being and recovery.
 
  • #924
IMO one thing I do believe from BM is that he did nothing wrong at the hotel.

Also, I do continue to wish Lauren would share her full inteview transcripts.
 
  • #925
IMO one thing I do believe from BM is that he did nothing wrong at the hotel.

Also, I do continue to wish Lauren would share her full inteview transcripts.


oh for sure. his comment about there being cameras everywhere makes me think he knew the exact whereabouts of any cameras at that hotel.
 
  • #926
I haven't fully caught up yet, so maybe this has been covered but I doubt that BM stayed in the hotel room on Saturday night.

The Daily Mail's conclusion/headline seems to be based on JP's assumption that BM had spent the night due to the used towels/etc. They don't say that the hotel confirmed he had checked in on Saturday and obviously JP can't know for sure since he didn't get there until Sunday night. My personal guess is that the room was reserved for Saturday night to allow BM to access it early on Sunday without waiting for check-in time. And then he showered and did whatever else after he arrived on Sunday morning.

The reason I say that is because it seems like it would be helpful for BM's alibi if he were in Denver earlier than previously thought. That narrows the window when he could have harmed Suzaane. So why would he risk lying to law enforcement about it? I could see it if he was trying to hide the hotel room itself, but from what AM said it sounds like he was telling everyone about the hotel room, the worker and the job with the faulty wall right from the start.

To me, easily the most damning part of JP's story is the lack of tools/dirt. That certainly makes the whole job seem like a quickly set up alibi attempt. And if it was, then the exact time that BM talked to JP on Saturday would be interesting to know.
another small but important detail:
this wasn't a new job, it was a re-do of an original job done badly.
therefore there's probably NO WORK ORDER.
The company wouldn't know when BM planned to repair the old work. He could get it done whenever (in BM's mind).
I believe BM is alluding to having left his tools in the hotel room and now that they're missing- that that felon he hired stole them.
See where this is going?

My guess is BM booked the room for JP sometime on Saturday. After he did the deed.
Then called the 3 workers to line them up for
showing up on Sunday at hotel.
 
  • #927
You're correct that GPS data, cell records, etc. are all forms
of circumstantial evidence, as is the type of witness testimony you mentioned.

You're also 100% correct that a circumstantial-only case needs to be "heavier" than one with direct evidence. In fact, here in Indiana, the defendant in such a criminal case is entitled to a special jury instruction:

Where proof of guilt is by circumstantial evidence only, it must be so conclusive in character and point so surely and unerringly to the guilt of the accused as to exclude every reasonable theory of innocence.

Indiana Pattern Jury Instruction 12

He might be wishing he’d done it in Indiana.
 
  • #928
Things I would like clarified: on what day did Barry make the hotel reservation? How many rooms and length of reservation ? On what day did he approach Jeff about the Broomfield wall job? When did Barry arrive at the hotel, and does security footage show tools and/or coolers? Did Barry stay at the hotel the whole time or come and go? When did he depart the hotel and were tools/coolers left behind?
 
  • #929
Just interesting that they couldn't find a single cooler in the house. I'd imagine he had multiple, as I know most hunters do.

But yes, I think you're right I didn't even think about that.
Also interesting is that they were even looking for them in the first place - it seems pretty specific IMO
 
  • #930
Ready for FF everyone? ;)
 
  • #931
Probably because they had a violent encounter, one that produced blood. The bleach thing is super common, and I can’t tell you how many cases I’ve followed where that has clued law enforcement in to the fact that violence occurred at a particular location.
yes, yes!! Well we have 2 locations where the smell of bleach/chlorine was left behind.
No coolers found- FBI said LISTEN.
Tools carted into hotel room, according to BM.
No tools left for workers according to JP.

The story is slowly leaking out. LE kNOWS.
So he used an untracked vehicle to dispose of her body.
It's coming together. Let's hope we have an assertive DA who's not afraid of a no body case.
 
  • #932
I'm now leaning towards BM purposely putting himself in JP's hotel room and wanting his footprint there. Took a shower, left towels on the floor, left a piece of his mail, maybe a nap on the bed. IMO, BM wanted this to be known to LE.

Back to catching up.
 
  • #933
It’s really interesting in that BM in trying to control the narrative is basically tipping his hand at all of the damning evidence he’s left behind:

-mechanical thing to a bobcat
-cops tampered with the bike
-FBI can lie to people
-Yeah the hotel smelled like bleach
-Of course there are cameras at the hotel that caught me
-I brought my tools into the hotel

He thinks he’s so smart and can bluff his way through any interaction. But, not this time buddy. You’re giving away all the important details.

I’m also surprised that when talking about JP and the hotel, BM doesn’t bring up “Listen, I had two other workers staying at the hotel that can vouch for the legitimacy of the job and my time line.”

I wonder why he’s not bringing them up...
 
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  • #934
He might be wishing he’d done it in Indiana.
But the truth is that modern gps, digital tracking and cameras are superior evidence and don't take a second seat to eyewitness evidence.
 
  • #935
another small but important detail:
this wasn't a new job, it was a re-do of an original job done badly.
therefore there's probably NO WORK ORDER.
The company wouldn't know when BM planned to repair the old work. He could get it done whenever (in BM's mind).
I believe BM is alluding to having left his tools in the hotel room and now that they're missing- that that felon he hired stole them.
See where this is going?

My guess is BM booked the room for JP sometime on Saturday. After he did the deed.
Then called the 3 workers to line them up for
showing up on Sunday at hotel.
I followed this for a long time at the outset but have been sitting on my hands for a while now. i decided to read and catch up and when I came across this post, it made me wonder if BM was trying to set up JP to take the heat for her disappearance. MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #936
The cooler anecdote also makes me firmly believe that Barry fell back on what he knows best to dispose of SM.

A large work truck with coolers in the bed (containing SM, a murder weapon, and other evidence) along with a tool box, hauling a bobcat down the road would not look suspicious. Just looks like a guy heading out for a job.

I’d suspect he’d bury the coolers, take the tools into the hotel to clean, and haul the truck and bobcat back home.
 
  • #937
IMO one thing I do believe from BM is that he did nothing wrong at the hotel.

Also, I do continue to wish Lauren would share her full interview transcripts.

I agree on both points.

It's frustrating to me not to understand the natural flow of these conversations LS is having with BM. We're seeing these sometimes one liner statements from BM without much context or the conversation leading up to his answers. Now the one interview he did not want recorded and she did say there were things he wanted to clarify with her that she wanted to keep close. The second interview he must have agreed to a recorded interview.

Example:

“I’ve heard the FBI lie and I know that they can legally do that in their investigations,” Barry said. “But it just pains me to know that they are doing this to me and my family.”

Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado

What conversation between them led up to him saying this? It would just help me understand things more. IMO
 
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  • #938
The cooler anecdote also makes me firmly believe that Barry fell back on what he knows best to dispose of SM.

A large work truck with coolers in the bed (containing SM, a murder weapon, and other evidence) along with a tool box, hauling a bobcat down the road would not look suspicious. Just looks like a guy heading out for a job.

I’d suspect he’d bury the coolers, take the tools into the hotel to clean, and haul the truck and bobcat back home.
Or he burned the coolers like frazee burned the black tote but it leaked on the hay bale so perhaps the bleach was to clean up a leak?
 
  • #939
...yes, that is very, very interesting!
11th Judicial District, Colorado is the
D.A.'s office serving Chaffee County.
Great catch that you note it hasn't
been included previously!
Oh Hallelujah!!!! That little inclusion is soooooo encouraging.
Last stop before an ARREST.
It's commmmmmming. Woo Hoo!!!!
 
  • #940
It’s really interesting in that BM I’m trying to control the narrative is basically tipping his hand at all of the damning evidence he’s left behind:

-mechanical thing to a bobcat
-cops tampered with the bike
-FBI can lie to people
-Yeah the hotel smelled like bleach
-Of course there are cameras at the hotel that caught me
-I brought my tools into the hotel

He thinks he’s so smart and can bluff his way through any interaction. But, not this time buddy. You’re giving away all the important details.

I’m also surprised that when talking about JP and the hotel, BM doesn’t bring up “Listen, I had two other workers staying at the hotel that can vouch for the legitimacy of the job and my time line.”

I wonder why he’s not bringing them up...
Was JP in charge of the other two? Did they go to the job site with him on Monday.

Maybe there were some bad vibes between these workers, and BM left the tools in the room of one of the others? JP's statements about tools was a little vague, IMO. I'll have to go back and listen again, but it seemed like LS asked him if BM left tools, but JP replied that there was no machinery to do the job, I don't recall his using the word "tools".

By Sunday night, it could have been every person for himself, especially if it was sinking in on the 3 that something dead serious might be happening.

We all want to know if/when BM arranged the room(s) for the other 2. As you guys have pointed out, it seems like BM was putting out a billboard establishing his presence at the JP room, at least for a short time. Could he have actually spent more time in the room of one of the others?

Did the other 2 suddenly leave on Sunday night/Monday a.m. and take the tools back with them?
 
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