Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #31

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  • #961
Hypothetical question - let’s say that LE feels they have enough evidence to arrest BM without a body. However, the manpower that is coming to CO on 9/24 represents the most people that will have been involved in a search. Would LE hold off on making the arrest in the chances that a body could be found? Or, could they make the arrest and then the body being found would just strengthen the case?
 
  • #962
What hotel was it? Depends on the age/configuration/neighborhood on cameras. Some are more motel type with exterior doors and stairs. The crews I worked with preferred this set up so they could back the truck up to the door and hear if any issues. Cameras at office/lobby/parking lot/maybe some door/room views.
JMO

I’m almost positive there is an elevator because the hotel is new, and it’s multiple stories. They’d need a service elevator if nothing else. And they’d also have cameras on all of the emergency exits that lead to the stairwells.
 
  • #963
I’ve got to go catch up since last night—thread is fast! But all I can say is BLEACH and missing COOLERS. :(

Oh and BM insisting he did nothing wrong at the hotel, FBI lies and making sure we know JP was in prison! This guy could not be more obvious.
IMO JP being in prison 9 years gives him the ability to spot a player easily , Patrick Frazee's inmate brought down the house and slammed the hammer for him. Ex inmates have nothing to lose by coming forth.
 
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  • #964
Indeed, his first reaction toward JP, was to public out him as an ex-con... implying, he shouldn't be believed because: 9 years in prison.

Classy move, Barry. o_O

This makes me wonder if there was more to JP's interview with LS that was not shared but LS relayed it to BM? Probably not.

IMO, JP didn't say anything that was really damming about BM. At least not to me. He basically said the dude used the shower, left towels on the floor, left trash and maybe slept in the bed and they both agreed the room smelled. It was supposed to his (JP) room. I think it was understandable he was frustrated about being there and the job falling apart. Not sure how long it took for him to be compensated but he said he was. Unless BM is really that short fused and easily offended.

I know humor should not come into this case but I admit this made me laugh. I got a kick out of JP's statement here. I agree man, I agree. ha

“I mean it’s either foul play or an alien has got her ,and we know that aliens are far-fetched you know what I’m saying but someone just doesn’t walk off the face of the earth like that and disappear it’s just not normal, it’s just not normal at all,” he said.

Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #965
I also like Barry saying that the Broomfield job had been planned for a month and wasn’t something new.

Yet, he talks to a guy that has never worked for him Saturday, and then on Sunday which is also Mother’s Day, he orders that guy to immediately come up to Broomfield for the job.

And the job that had been planned for a month, doesn’t have dirt, tools or machinery needed to do the job.

Keep talking Barry, you’re the smartest guy around. Please tell us everything.

If this Wall of Crookedness tear down/rebuild had been in the planning stages for a month, there will be correspondence between BM and the person in charge at the Denver company that allegedly hired him to build the wall in the first place, last fall. Then apparently had to contact him again due to it being crooked or whatever the actual complaint was, that prompted the job to be scheduled to be redone. There's no way BM is just going to show up there unannounced.
Indeed also, as you mentioned, a job in the planning stage for a month, scheduled to begin the very next day after the workers arrive, would already have all the required tools, machinery & supplies on site.
 
  • #966
What hotel was it? Depends on the age/configuration/neighborhood on cameras. Some are more motel type with exterior doors and stairs. The crews I worked with preferred this set up so they could back the truck up to the door and hear if any issues. Cameras at office/lobby/parking lot/maybe some door/room views.
JMO
Yesterday we had pics, it's a block shaped, chain, budget hotel, looks like 3-4 stories, not a motel. Not a cheap joint as DM implied. Just wondering if he had a ground floor room for one of those employees, not to lug tools up stairs. But they probably have an elevator. I too would prefer a motel room where my vehicle is right in front of the door so no need to babysit or spend time moving tools around en masse.
 
  • #967
From what I'm reading, BM secured the room for JP.
It was not a room they were supposed to be sharing, and I don't think JP was under that impression either.
Until he got there, and saw the condition of the room.
That's what makes this even more bizarre.
Maybe BM wanted to see what it's like sharing a room. It appears he will be doing so for the rest of his life.
 
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  • #968
I watched an ID channel show just 3 days ago. The wife killed husband, put him under three truckloads of dirt. And then when she thought the home was going to be foreclosed on, she had her 3rd hubby and ?Two or Three of his friends :eek: move the body (which had been dismembered already and put into black plastic bags) to their carport, put him in a container such as we see/use for xmas decor, and then laid quick-creet (sp?) over such.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars later, one of the folks that was friend of one told LE the story. LE were disbelieving as they didn't even know of anyone missing/murdered, as the person that was involved didn't state who the dead person was. That CI person got wired, and one involved was caught on wire explaining it all to CI. LE was stunned. LE dug up carport concrete. She got convicted, the three helpers got nothing as was past the time for prosecution/statute of limitation. Oh yeah, and that woman is getting out in 2024! (Old show indeed that was rerun this week)

I sometimes wonder if ID channel doesn't replay old episodes to coincide with current crimes in the news.

I would hope that if he had assistance, the DA would deal vs. waiting for statue of limitations on disposal of remains which is a crime (dunno, what are rules/law in CO) would have to wait for that to readdress to anyone who may have assisted.

(Not saying anyone did, just prompted by the ID show) and Barry stating "I will pay you well" yet did not state $20/hr or such... so was the fee stated in writing? What indeed was the fee and was it only done in person that Saturday face to face?

Pure MOO above based on MSM reports.

Glad I’m not the only one watching that stuff. I keep wanting to quote cases. I’m an insomniac and watch episode after episode. What has been bothering me lately is how long many of these cases go unprosecuted-detectives know exactly who committed the murder, but the evidence may not be there to convict. So they wait and hope for that piece to be uncovered. Honestly I think that’s what is going to happen here. Barry will live his life for years, build that house, have relationships with his daughters, walk them down the aisle, go to the gym, even remarry. And some day, hopefully, he will get arrested.
 
  • #969
So, BM hires his own personal scapegoat.

I wonder if he did the same before leaving Indiana?

Why do I ask?

I find it nearly inexplicable that a couple who...

(1) grew up in and have longtime ties on both maternal and paternal sides to Indiana,
(2) have a daughter still midway through high school in Indiana with friends she's probably known her own life,
(3) have another daughter attending an out of state college (most such kids I know look forward to trips back home to see old high school friends),
(4) have plenty of lifelong friends and family in Indiana (including aging parents with health issues), and
(5) have a longtime established and successful landscaping business in Indiana.

... suddenly decide to pick up both personal and business stakes and move to another state 18 hours away where they have to make the personal and business investment to start all over again.

In their new community, they must: Make new family and school friends. Find new medical providers. Find a new church community. Scratch up new business opportunities. Establish working relationships with a whole new group of contractors or clients. Establish working relationships with a whole new group of crew members, sometime employees, or subcontractors.

It's not like BM worked as a professional for some corporation or firm which asked him to transfer and covered the cost of relocating. They were on their own.

That just really does not add up to me. Even less so once SM found she had a recurrence of cancer.

There has got to be a story behind that move and this throwing this new work associate under the bus suggests to me a hint about it. This can't be the first time.

The move to Colorado has always bothered me. Most teenagers in their final few years of high school would hate leaving before graduation. SM had to have some reservations abt moving once she was diagnosed with cancer again, losing the support of close, lifelong friends and family, having to find new doctors/oncologists, etc to fight cancer again! And the stress of basically starting up a new company in a *small town*. Why Salida? MOO.
 
  • #970
It's really nasty that BM is throwing JP under the bus because he's an ex-con. Sure, lots of ex-cons are just waiting to resume their life of crime, but there are plenty who have learned from mistakes and only want to move forward, not end up locked up again. Those are the ones we don't hear about. They go about their lives, doing the best they can. I don't doubt JP's account, I think he knows lots more he didn't share with the media, and I think it's another example of BM's arrogance to throw him JP into it because he's an ex-con, so obviously he must be guilty of something.

Puts soapbox away for now.

MOO
 
  • #971
the fix supposedly was what he was doing at 11:30pm at the Salida building site- working on his bobcat- the neighbor woke up from the loud noise and later came forward to LE>
Or maybe it occurred on Sunday, before he had to return home. That might explain why there was no machinery at the jobsite. He may have told LE that was part of what he was doing on Sunday before he got the call from his daughter. He must have given them some reason that it appeared nothing had been done. Maybe he loaded it up on Saturday night and said he did the repair on Sunday morning.
 
  • #972
Can a crew just show up in Colorado and start work on a wall? Even with a rebuild, aren’t permits required? Here in the Northeast, a stop work order would get issued immediately if a job was started without permits posted. If there was dirt involved, there is a whole separate set of permits. It doesn’t sound like this was private property based on who the client was. We saw the permits from the SW dig site.
 
  • #973
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CO - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #31
 
  • #974
I agree and it makes me sick. Whatever happened, I hope Suzanne didn’t see it coming but unfortunately, I think she saw everything. :( MOO

God. That poor woman. :(:mad::(

It seems that she spread joy wherever she went and tried to be the best person she could be -- and this is how she ends up. Jesus wept.
 
  • #975
Me thinkie BM has the same (invisible) attorney that LS had. moo
 
  • #976
This makes me wonder if there was more to JP's interview with LS that was not shared but LS relayed it to BM? Probably not.

IMO, JP didn't say anything that was really damming about BM. At least not to me. He basically said the dude used the shower, left towels on the floor, left trash and maybe slept in the bed and they both agreed the room smelled. It was supposed to his (JP) room. I think it was understandable he was frustrated about being there and the job falling apart. Not sure how long it took for him to be compensated but he said he was. Unless BM is really that short fused and easily offended.

I know humor should not come into this case but I admit this made me laugh. I got a kick out of JP's statement here. I agree man, I agree. ha

“I mean it’s either foul play or an alien has got her ,and we know that aliens are far-fetched you know what I’m saying but someone just doesn’t walk off the face of the earth like that and disappear it’s just not normal, it’s just not normal at all,” he said.

Exclusive: Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding the disappearance of wife, Suzanne | FOX21 News Colorado

But Barry is focused on the "cat" you know. That is the word he uses in many statements iirc. I need to go back and confirm my old brain is recalling correctly. I know he used mountain lion at one point, but used the word cat moreso. Almost like training his mind that the (bob)cat/mountain lion was involved.

Durn, will I have to find and listen to all again... back down rabbit hole.
 
  • #977
Also interesting is that they were even looking for them in the first place - it seems pretty specific IMO
I've been thinking about that.

I've moved quite a few times and used professional moving companies. When the Family moved from Indiana to Colorado if they used a professional moving company, everything packed and moved is inventoried.
You get a copy and the moving company gets a copy and you check everything off at the delivery, then keep it on file just in case you have damaged goods in unopened boxes etc.

I imagine that was filed away in the Morphew home under 'movers'. Not hard for a detective to find.

Now, if they moved the coolers in their personal vehicals, no record.

The coolers could have been bought recently and then gone missing, so that's all I've got on that subject.

I just tired myself out thinking about how much hard work being a detective must be. Moo
 
  • #978
IMO JP being in prison 9 years gives him the ability to spot a player easily , Patrick Frazee's inmate brought down the house and slammed the hammer for him. Ex inmates have noting to lose by coming forth.

I agree with you, JP could spot a player and would not want to be played. He's far more intelligent than BM when it comes to sizing up bullcarp.

It's interesting that after being recruited on Saturday, that he called BM around noon on Sunday to make double check if the job was legit.

I think JP's hinky meter was picking up all kinds of vibes when he talked to BM on Saturday. After all BM had probably just murdered Suzanne. He was gonna be giving off so much angsty vibrations, incongruent to the topic of discussion.

Bet JP was scratching his head then, but it all makes perfect sense to him now.
Moo of course.
 
  • #979
Can a crew just show up in Colorado and start work on a wall? Even with a rebuild, aren’t permits required? Here in the Northeast, a stop work order would get issued immediately if a job was started without permits posted. If there was dirt involved, there is a whole separate set of permits. It doesn’t sound like this was private property based on who the client was. We saw the permits from the SW dig site.

I suspect that there might be building permits listed online for any CO county, the same as we saw for the riverfront property that was searched.

jmo
 
  • #980
Would LE have asked the girls about how many coolers were in the house?
Who else might know?
Did they have a cleaner?
People BM went hunting with.
Photo s of family/BH picnicking.
 
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