Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

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  • #881
Is the owner still at the property or is it vacant awaiting sale? I bet the actor knows. Now about that aerial photo, remember that little blurb I put waaaay back about LiDAR? If that entire area was scanned by air by LiDAR and the vegetation removed from the scan, disturbances in the soil would be visible, say a filled in hole where the dirt had settled a tad? Hmmmm...

This property is vacant, with no structures on it; but it is in tthree tracts on either side of both Hwy 50 and CR255 including the exact spot where the bicycle was found, and the presumed spot where the personal item was found.

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R368531200092
When is comes up, click on "Map" in the header bar.

Chaffee Colorado Assessor Office
 

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  • #882
They would need a warrant to fingerprint. But maybe the house warrant took care of that as police would need to ID all prints in the house.
I would imagine Barry and the daughters and anyone else might have been fingerprinted during the process of elimination at the house.
 
  • #883
We're deep into, and coming up soon-ish on the end of thread #47. At this point, there's not much to analyze or say that hasn't been done so over and over since thread #1.

This is how missing person's cases go when there's no new activity happening. It's why it's a good idea to have at least one other case to follow if you're looking to stay busy in true crime. Cases percolate along on their own time...sometimes for many months or more than a year or 2.

IMO
 
  • #884
Thank You Everybody! I have been lurking for years.

I have a question though. If the house on PP is being sold because the girls are scared to be there since it's possible SM was taken from there, is that BM's indirect way of saying that the bike ride was staged? He's changed his mind so many times, it's hard to keep track of his theories. I can understand their feelings about the house but still, why sell the house so quick? If BM thinks that she is still alive, what happens if she "escapes" and the 1st thing she does is run home (Surely she would call the police 1st?) to find her family doesn't live there anymore? Or a new family lives there now? So, she's been through this totally traumatizing experience and she now has to track down her family? Not that I think that will ever happen but I'm not sure how I would feel about being abducted and escaping only to find that my family (mainly DH) had already moved on 6 months +/- after I disappeared.

Also, would it be possible to tell the difference between a broken neck caused by someone coming up behind you and snapping it and a broken neck caused by a tumble off of a cliff?

MOO...Like a PP mentioned above, I think that if the kitchen (floor) was disassembled by the police during a search then they found DNA but it was urine, not blood. The bowels/bladder emptying after death can catch someone not experienced with death by surprise and it happens quick. (I had my dog put down a few years ago and even working in the medical field, I was caught off gaurd when her bladder let go almost immediately after she passed. It was traumatizing even though I was at peace with my decision to let her go.) I think BM came up behind SM, maybe with the pretense of showing her some affection or possibly by surprise, and snapped her neck. Then, I think he loaded her up and she is somewhere between home and Denver. Or she is at the bottom of a cliff somewhere but not because she took a tumble.

Of course, all this is just my thoughts. I sincerely hope Suzanne's family is granted closure sooner rather than later.
Teal bolding mine

Great post, @hpruitt !

Yes, I think the areas not photographed by BM in the recent house sale pics are relevant !

And imo- he has not allowed the girls to see what the house looks like since the searches -- hence the wild tales of a random 'abductor' made up to frighten them.
BM stated (paraphrased) "... the daughters were terrified of being kidnapped from that house , since that's what happened to Suzanne..." --per BM.
Or at least one of the fables he's concocted.
Repulsive behavior.
The daughters would know more than anyone -- what was damaged through an ambush by BM, or flooring or wall portions removed, or out of place or missing.
MOO
 
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Thank You Everybody! I have been lurking for years.

If BM thinks that she is still alive, what happens if she "escapes" and the 1st thing she does is run home (Surely she would call the police 1st?) to find her family doesn't live there anymore? Or a new family lives there now? So, she's been through this totally traumatizing experience and she now has to track down her family? Not that I think that will ever happen but I'm not sure how I would feel about being abducted and escaping only to find that my family (mainly DH) had already moved on 6 months +/- after I disappeared.

I don't know what would piss me off more - DH selling the house so quickly, or that pathetically lame 26-second Facebook video.
 
  • #887
This property is vacant, with no structures on it; but it is in tthree tracts on either side of both Hwy 50 and CR255 including the exact spot where the bicycle was found, and the presumed spot where the personal item was found.

To access this property view, answer the disclaimers at the link, then enter Parcel Number:
R368531200092
When is comes up, click on "Map" in the header bar.

Chaffee Colorado Assessor Office

Thanks, Dave. But the address listed on zillow is 8507 and the assessor search yields a different name than shown on your map. Parcel I'm looking at ends in 00094.
 
  • #888
Teal bolding mine

Great post, @hpruitt !

Yes, I think the areas not photographed by BM in the recent house sale pics are relevant !

And imo- he has not allowed the girls to see what the house looks like since the searches -- hence the wild tales of a random 'abductor' made up to frighten them.
BM stated (paraphrased) "... the daughters were terrified of being kidnapped from that house , since that's what happened to Suzanne..." --per BM.
Or at least one of the fables he's concocted.
Repulsive behavior.
The daughters would know more than anyone -- what was damaged through an ambush by BM, or flooring or wall portions removed, or out of place or missing.
MOO

Very diplomatically put - but what a great (and valid) investigative insight. It's very possible that no one other than Barry (and perhaps his good friend the ranger?) have been back to the house.

In fact, that explains some other things I had wondered about.
 
  • #889
. dbm
 
  • #890
Thanks, Dave. But the address listed on zillow is 8507 and the assessor search yields a different name than shown on your map. Parcel I'm looking at ends in 00094.

That land is also vacant. IMO

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R368531200094
When is comes up, click on "Map" in the header bar.

Chaffee Colorado Assessor Office
 

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  • #891
SM's Family's (Presumed?) Choice re $ Handling?
... nothing published or known that says the Moorman family has any issues with Suzanne’s husband leading up to Suzanne going missing...
@Momofthreeboys sbm ibm That was then? (pre-SM-disappearance).
....they may have wanted someone other than BM to act as guardian or trustee. ...seems the Moorman family knew something was up with the lack of communication with SM despite her cancer...
@mom2chloe sbm This is now? (post-SM-disappearance).

If, big if, AM (and/or other SM relatives) already - back in May or June - had serious misgivings or concerns about BM acting as Gdn, seems AM (other fam) would have made appearance in Gdn'ship hearings and either objected to ct appt'ing BM or would have asked ct to appt, say AM or other.

If that's what they think, do they realize they can still appear (thru atty) and request ct remove BM as G'dn. Not too late imo. Not re future transactions.
ETA: As always inviting comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.
Rambling about possibilities. Jm2cts.
 
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I'm not a lawyer, but regardless of any financial gifts from GM, I think Suzanne's will would be the only legal directive on who inherited her share of their marital estate. Maybe she told BM (or he found out) that she was planning on changing her will to name her children as her benefactors, instead of having everything go to him as her spouse. That would be a significant financial loss for him, and would certainly cause a volatile (deadly?) argument. Just speculating.
Idk because again considering her family’s extensive assets they may have wanted someone other than BM to act as guardian or trustee. From what little we do know it seems the Moorman family knew something was up with the lack of communication with SM despite her cancer. Please don’t discount their wisdom yet! Certainly they are privy to so much more than us and equally heartbroken. IMO
SM's Family's (Presumed?) Choice re $ Handling?

@Momofthreeboys sbm ibm That was then? (pre-SM-disappearance).
@mom2chloe sbm This is now? (post-SM-disappearance).

If, big if, AM (and/or other SM relatives) already - back in May or June - had serious misgivings or concerns about BM acting as Gdn, seems AM (other fam) would have made appearance in Gdn'ship hearings and either objected to ct appt'ing BM or would have asked ct to appt, say AM or other.

If that's what they think, do they realize they can still appear (thru atty) and request ct remove BM as G'dn. Not too late imo. Not re future transactions.
ETA: As always inviting comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.
Rambling about possibilities. Jm2cts.

AM shared with all of us that his communication with Suzanne was through BM. My three much older siblings would have been concerned about the ghosting except for the fact that SM was recovering from Chemo. I have recently suffered autoimmune issues that necessitated my sister mostly speaking to my husband about because no one else needed to know at that given moment; Regardless I still think the financial aspect is suspect. None of my siblings even under the best of circumstances would discuss financial situations particularly relating to inheritance or future gains with my husband. My siblings adore my husband but it is simply not his business even as related to our children. MOO

BM knew something and had some reason to either hide that fact or some other financial motive that we may learn about in the future. Or Suzanne learned of some financial something that lead to her demise. There is way more to this IMHO and I hope someday we learn of it. If the eldest daughter is 21 or recently/ currently approaching that age the possibility exists that she too may have inherited land and/or money from the Moorman Family. Would Barry be a guardian or trustee on that if Suzanne were missing or incapacitated? Again if any of this is a possibility it leads to premeditation and planning of some sort. Again IMO Andy made a point to acknowledge the inheritance Suzanne supposedly put into the PP home. Why? No mortgage exists. Did he acquire a home equity loan without Suzanne’s knowledge or approval? If so he will be charged with something and maybe this is why LE are waiting because they have him on financial crimes but are waiting to prove Murder. MOO
 
  • #893
It's vacant land, no house. The owner listed on the county assessor site has an address in Wisconsin and the name didn't ring any bells with me.

There is something odd about the property -- some kind of boggy area? Roundish area with no trees, what looks like a few rills of erosion through it, but doesn't look manmade.

I took a screenshot off Google Maps but it's too big to post. If you go to where the bike was found and look a few hundred feet to the south along the east side of that road and you can't miss it.
RBBM
A little trick I learned when getting the “too large to post” message on iPhone or iPad when trying to upload a screenshot. After you take your screenshot, save it to photos. Open it and hit “edit”. Do any simple edit and save it again. The resulting file will be a jpeg small enough to post.
 
  • #894
We “haven’t left the house yet,” per Profiling Evil.

Still looking at you Barry. Eyes. Wide. Open.
 
  • #895
RBBM
A little trick I learned when getting the “too large to post” message on iPhone or iPad when trying to upload a screenshot. After you take your screenshot, save it to photos. Open it and hit “edit”. Do any simple edit and save it again. The resulting file will be a jpeg small enough to post.

Thanks, @OldCop . I've tried that with mixed success. I'm on an ipad and I bet there are settings as to how to save an edited photo into various file formats, I'm just not up on. I think last time maybe I screenshotted a screenshot and that finally reduced it enough to post. I'll figure it out eventually!
 
  • #896
It is said that in domestic violence cases, you need a plan. I think she had one. I think the plan was to go to the wedding, see her father, and possibly not return to CO. Maybe he found out.
 
  • #897
Hmm, just dug a little, owner isn't local and name doesn't ring any bells. Still I wish there was a recent aerial photo to check for disturbed areas... Seems unrelated though.
Just jumping off your post - I mentioned this just lately and no one commented - about something that was going to be used in this case regarding satellite imagery - ? Vislaw or something to look for disturbed ground, etc. What ever came of this? Did I imagine this? Or maybe the wrong case? Anybody? TIA
 
  • #898
Tomorrow (Thursday October 29) at 6:00 pm MDT

 
  • #899
It is said that in domestic violence cases, you need a plan. I think she had one. I think the plan was to go to the wedding, see her father, and possibly not return to CO. Maybe he found out.
I really like your theory! Perhaps Suzanne was headed east maybe under the premise of the wedding and had planned to stay with the friend until things were sorted out. Fingers crossed that we learn more soon!
 
  • #900
Just jumping off your post - I mentioned this just lately and no one commented - about something that was going to be used in this case regarding satellite imagery - ? Vislaw or something to look for disturbed ground, etc. What ever came of this? Did I imagine this? Or maybe the wrong case? Anybody? TIA
I’ve also been wondering if anything ever came of their involvement in the search ( or IF they did get involved ).
You didn’t imagine it.
@vislaw

 
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