Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #51

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  • #761
Just thinking about the bike. Now it seems pretty clear it was not damaged. However, early on didn't Trevor plead that questions be asked as to how the bike was found ? If all that was about was just to bring out the bike's position - say wheels up - that doesn't seem to really fit his rather strong plea. So what ? - wheel's up - wouldn't prove anything. But no one has ever talked about the condition of the tires. Let's say they were both flat or almost flat. But without damage. The police would certainly have checked to see if they held air or had leaks - right after it was found. But whomever put the bike there may have rather hastily overlooked that detail while planting it. And that detail may have never come out yet to the public. It sure could be a reason why the bike ' details ' are being kept quiet. And why BM changed the subject so quickly when he slipped up as to how it was found ( wheels up. ) BM sure isn't going to say anything about the tires. Just some thoughts.
I think there's a difference between damaged and mechanically sound. I recall something about SM telling her dad that her brakes were stripped and she was waiting on parts/repair.

I think TN soliciting for inquires about the condition of the bike was probably to both indict the manner of LE removing the bike and also push the abduction theory.

MOO
 
  • #762
Surely LE understand that just because the hotel room smelled like Chlorine... it does not mean he was in a pool? Their are several cleaning agents that contain chlorine .

maybe he was using those agents .

MOO
Yes, LE knows BM was not in a pool, as HIE Manager confirmed that the pool was closed, also confirmed HIE do not use chlorine to clean their rooms. :)
Snipped from article at link below:

However, a manager at the $92-a-night property told DailyMail.com that they do not use chlorine to clean guest rooms. The pool is also currently closed.”

Husband of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew denies wrongdoing inside cheap hotel | Daily Mail Online

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
  • #763
Yes, LE knows BM was not in a pool, as HIE Manager confirmed that the pool was closed, also confirmed HIE do not use chlorine to clean their rooms. :)
Snipped from article at link below:

However, a manager at the $92-a-night property told DailyMail.com that they do not use chlorine to clean guest rooms. The pool is also currently closed.”

Husband of missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew denies wrongdoing inside cheap hotel | Daily Mail Online

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

thank you!!
 
  • #764
IMO, I believe in the initial hours of SM being reported missing, LE was treating this as a potential bike accident (severe injury, she walked away from the accident and was heading home....). The official SAR efforts speak to this. At some point early on, I do think gears switched to a criminal investigation.

I also believe George's account here, that LE didn't treat finding SM's bike as potential evidence that needed to be handled a certain way. They probably just pulled the bike out of the area. I'm not ready to rake them over the coals for this, again, I think they were looking for a injured SM from a bike outing. I can also understand those close to this case being upset by that action. IMO

I agree with this and have believed this from early on. I think at some point that evening or within a day or so LE switched from accident to missing.
 
  • #765
IMO, according to LS recent video, George is part of the Chaffee County volunteer fire department. IMO, it would have been normal for him to receive radio communications.

Thanks for clarifying that.

Do volunteer fire fighters and police use separate channels? Even in a small town, I’d have to think they do. But maybe not.

Just kind of interesting that a volunteer firefighter was listening to their radio around dinner time on Mother’s Day. Picked up the chatter about SM and her bike being found and then relayed that to GD. I’m sure there were at least a few calls to BM at that time as well.

Just an intriguing detail that makes one go hmmmmm....
 
  • #766
Barry sure does sound like he likes to play victim doesn’t he ? Almost like poor me , the police are looking at me Bc they messed up ?
Classic ...
MOO
 
  • #767
Barry sure does sound like he likes to play victim doesn’t he ? Almost like poor me , the police are looking at me Bc they messed up ?
Classic ...
MOO
Agreed.
I think that sentiment has been picked up by the rest of the Morphew family as well, if what the reporter LS has commented about is any indication !
Imo.
 
  • #768
Add- the firefighters were told they could not join in the searches - remember that? I've long thought Spezze was trying to protect the investigation, and didn't want certain information traveling back to Barry. Which simply put, as Suzanne's husband he would need to be looked at and cleared.

I'm not sure what to think about George.
bbm
Yes, I'm in agreement with the bolded.
I think he knows more than he's telling.
And some are loyal to a fault.
Imo.
 
  • #769
Thanks for clarifying that.

Do volunteer fire fighters and police use separate channels? Even in a small town, I’d have to think they do. But maybe not.

Just kind of interesting that a volunteer firefighter was listening to their radio around dinner time on Mother’s Day. Picked up the chatter about SM and her bike being found and then relayed that to GD. I’m sure there were at least a few calls to BM at that time as well.

Just an intriguing detail that makes one go hmmmmm....

I’m not from the area, but I can speak of small towns. It’s not uncommon for volunteer firefighters, volunteer rescue squad and the general denizens to have scanners in their home. My Grandaddy had one that he would turn on when he got home from work and listen for the happenings. I’m from a very rural area so there wasn’t much chatter. They still blow the fire whistle when there’s a fire also Saturday’s at 12:00 noon and on the Mondays that they have their meeting. If you get confused, you have to count the number of times the whistle goes off to know if it’s a fire.

It’s plausible that the Sheriff’s Dept doesn’t have all of their channels blocked so they can be heard on a scanner.
IMO
MOO
 
  • #770
If you can't link it to an approved source, you can't discuss it so don't even mention it.

Old WS saying, "No link, no post".
 
  • #771
Ok, guys. New Lauren Scharf video!

"Is anyone curious about George?"


RSBM

Some thoughts:

- 0:32 GD is a "part of" the CC volunteer FD. Does that mean he's actually a firefighter or does he work there in some other capacity? Just curious that she didn't actually call him a firefighter with the CCVFD, and that stood out to me.

- 0:40 GD says he was the first community member to see SM's bike - but - at 2:16 explaining how GD got involved, he told her that another volunteer firefighter called GD to tell him about a missing bike being found. Then GD heads toward the Morphew house where the bike was found close by. When he got to where the bike was, there were 2 deputies on scene.

First, if two deputies were already on scene with the bike, then no GD was not the first person to see it.
Second, why did the other volunteer firefighter call GD about the bike, and not BM?
That just seems really weird to me, unless he did call BM too and that was just left out of the story for some reason?
Third, many assumed it was BM that called GD and asked him to head to the house, while he (BM) was driving back from Broomfield.
According to GD, it was the other way around and he was the one who called BM, and then BM asked him if he was going.

- 1:36 GD says that for the first two weeks after SM went missing, him and about 300 people were out searching every day. Although a few of those original searches said it was more like 20-30 guys. Hmm.

- 2:44 when GD arrived at the bike scene and witnessed 2 CCSD on site attempting to bring the bike up the hill, GD is quoted as saying was a "giant no-no", and went on to explain basic crime scene processing protocol, to these two county sherrifs. Went on to relay how there were "a lot" of things the sheriff's office did like that, but chalked it up to them being a small town LE agency and don't see this kind of crime and don't know everything.
Wow.
Shows up and tells the police how to do their jobs, then accuses them of being ignorant small town cops. Okay.
In addition, why in the world would GD be so adamant that the bike was a "crime scene" and should be processed like one, when no one was supposed to have known yet, what happened to her? No one was supposed to have known anything at that point, accident, run off on purpose, kidnapped, whatever. Yet there's GD on scene, insisting it's processed as a crime scene.
That's also just too weird.

4:34 It was a nice surprise to learn he did talk with AM and offer some amount of help when he came out for the big 4 day search.

5:22 GD and BM are planning something (statement?). More info when one of them gets back from a trip? Unclear on that. LS comments it sounded to her like they were planning something for the 1 year anniversary of SM being missing but, that's still 4 months away.

jmo
 
  • #772
That someone knows ? Or that she needs more attention?
That she needs more attention. LE has done very little to promote public awareness for SM. Hopefully it’s because they have everything thing need. However, if LE doesn’t have what they need, their dismissal of public assistance will be inexcusable. LE has essentially ‘buried‘ her story and I hope they have a good reason.
JMO
 
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  • #773
IMO, I believe in the initial hours of SM being reported missing, LE was treating this as a potential bike accident (severe injury, she walked away from the accident and was heading home....). The official SAR efforts speak to this. At some point early on, I do think gears switched to a criminal investigation.

I also believe George's account here, that LE didn't treat finding SM's bike as potential evidence that needed to be handled a certain way. They probably just pulled the bike out of the area. I'm not ready to rake them over the coals for this, again, I think they were looking for a injured SM from a bike outing. I can also understand those close to this case being upset by that action. IMO

Exactly! If BM is upset about the “mishandling” of the bike, he has only himself to blame. He pushed the initial bike ride story. He has to vilify LE because they didn’t accept that and decided to do an actual investigation. Like other spouses with “missing” family members, he thought everyone would simply move on. He was ready to. Now he has to continue to go through the motions and it probably annoys the hell out of him.
 
  • #774
RSBM

Some thoughts:

- 0:32 GD is a "part of" the CC volunteer FD. Does that mean he's actually a firefighter or does he work there in some other capacity? Just curious that she didn't actually call him a firefighter with the CCVFD, and that stood out to me.

- 0:40 GD says he was the first community member to see SM's bike - but - at 2:16 explaining how GD got involved, he told her that another volunteer firefighter called GD to tell him about a missing bike being found. Then GD heads toward the Morphew house where the bike was found close by. When he got to where the bike was, there were 2 deputies on scene.

First, if two deputies were already on scene with the bike, then no GD was not the first person to see it.
Second, why did the other volunteer firefighter call GD about the bike, and not BM?
That just seems really weird to me, unless he did call BM too and that was just left out of the story for some reason?
Third, many assumed it was BM that called GD and asked him to head to the house, while he (BM) was driving back from Broomfield.
According to GD, it was the other way around and he was the one who called BM, and then BM asked him if he was going.

- 1:36 GD says that for the first two weeks after SM went missing, him and about 300 people were out searching every day. Although a few of those original searches said it was more like 20-30 guys. Hmm.

- 2:44 when GD arrived at the bike scene and witnessed 2 CCSD on site attempting to bring the bike up the hill, GD is quoted as saying was a "giant no-no", and went on to explain basic crime scene processing protocol, to these two county sherrifs. Went on to relay how there were "a lot" of things the sheriff's office did like that, but chalked it up to them being a small town LE agency and don't see this kind of crime and don't know everything.
Wow.
Shows up and tells the police how to do their jobs, then accuses them of being ignorant small town cops. Okay.
In addition, why in the world would GD be so adamant that the bike was a "crime scene" and should be processed like one, when no one was supposed to have known yet, what happened to her? No one was supposed to have known anything at that point, accident, run off on purpose, kidnapped, whatever. Yet there's GD on scene, insisting it's processed as a crime scene.
That's also just too weird.

4:34 It was a nice surprise to learn he did talk with AM and offer some amount of help when he came out for the big 4 day search.

5:22 GD and BM are planning something (statement?). More info when one of them gets back from a trip? Unclear on that. LS comments it sounded to her like they were planning something for the 1 year anniversary of SM being missing but, that's still 4 months away.

jmo

Yeah, I wonder if GD has a habit of showing up as a Volunteer FF to events that police are responding to and telling them about what they are doing wrong. Or if this was just the first time he’s ever done that...

GD feels like at best, a pawn who is unwittingly doing BM’s wishes or at worst, knowingly involved.
 
  • #775
Thanks for clarifying that.

Do volunteer fire fighters and police use separate channels? Even in a small town, I’d have to think they do. But maybe not.

Just kind of interesting that a volunteer firefighter was listening to their radio around dinner time on Mother’s Day. Picked up the chatter about SM and her bike being found and then relayed that to GD. I’m sure there were at least a few calls to BM at that time as well.

Just an intriguing detail that makes one go hmmmmm....

I live near a fire department in a small city, and sometimes when I hear the tones (usually evening when it’s quieter), I pull up my county’s public safety channel online to listen to it. I can hear both fire and police on it.

MOO
 
  • #776
That she needs more attention. LE has done very little to promote public awareness for SM. Hopefully it’s because they have everything thing need. However, if LE doesn’t have what they need, their dismissal of public assistance will be inexcusable. LE has essentially ‘buried‘ her story and I hope they have a good reason.
JMO
I'm not at all sure it's within the county sheriff's office job description to "promote public awareness" for any cases they might be working on. That said, they've consistantly updated the public this entire time.
I'm guessing, if they think it may assist with the investigation, they might appeal to the public. Likewise, if they didn't, they wouldn't.
I'm not even sure why you're mentioning their "dismissal of public assistance" or them essentially burying her story when their very own their "our news" page http://chaffeesheriff.org/blog/ press release page has no less than 23 public appeals posted since 05.10.20 as well as establishing a dedicated tip line for the public to phone in any information they might have.

I do believe the CCSO are doing a fine job leading this investigation.

From their page:

"We thank you, our community, for your assistance, concern and patience,” said Chaffee County Sheriff John Spezze. “Suzanne is missing. We in law enforcement hope for the best but prepare for the worst. The worst-case scenario is that something unlawful occurred, and as such we go about our investigation ensuring we are working within the rules of law and treating everything we learn as potential evidence for court.” Suzanne Morphew Tip line: 719-312-7530.
Much more here.
 
  • #777
....Some thoughts:...
5:22 GD and BM are planning something (statement?). More info when one of them gets back from a trip? Unclear on that. LS comments it sounded to her like they were planning something for the 1 year anniversary of SM being missing but, that's still 4 months away. jmo
@Ontario Mom sbm for focus. Thanks for link w your summary of L. Scharf's vid of today, esp w the :) time stamps you added. Those always help. Great post.:)

 
  • #778
I noticed this --- posted by LS --- in the comments to LS' new vid.* Seems like good news to me.


Lauren Scharf

8 hours ago
"I will be talking more on Mike Kings channel very soon."

*
 
  • #779
And a posting hat-trick (off the ice:D).

On LS's youtube channel, I also saw this, in the "about" tab.
"Wanna know the latest scoop on stories I cover... Truth Seeker - Multimedia Journalist - Content Creator"

I thought I read she had left Fox a while back, but had not noticed ^ on her channel. Just FWIW.
 
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  • #780
Just thinking again about George's statement about the bike. He said - there was more to the bike but police had this info. Obviously he is not going to talk and that is smart. Very smart. Keep the integrity of this investigation - clean and steady. I believe with all of my heart that Suzanne will be found and justice will be served.
 
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