Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

[OldCop]

While looking for something else, I came across this Sept 20th tweet by CM (Profiling Evil). It's interesting because we're still not certain what day or time Suzanne was last heard from. Was it 5/9 at 8:30, 12:30 or 9:00 she stopped texting/talking to her friend about the wedding? Or was it 5/8?

"To be clear from the family the timeline is Saturday 05/09/20 around 2:30 PM approx all communication with Suzanne stopped. BM said Sunday 05/10/20 at 0500 he last saw her in bed when he left."

https://twitter.com/187cjm/status/1301180948902535179?s=21

Yes, but was it just that it was 2:30 when the texts stopped coming from her phone? It’s still possible that BM tried to impersonate her on Saturday morning if she actually died Friday night.
I’m still on the fence about whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. However, if it is proven that SM was definitely communicating with someone in some way, shape, or form until 2:30 on Saturday afternoon, then I think this may have been a premeditated murder. Why was BM such a wreck on Saturday morning at the waterfront job site with MG? Why did he break off work early? Why was he in town shopping? It was on Saturday afternoon that he bumped into JP in Salida and asked him if he was available to work the Broomfield job. Alibi set up?
I suppose he could have left work early on Saturday, went home and got into an argument and killed her then, but it doesn’t explain his behavior that morning. Why was he working at the job site Friday night? We all watched the FBI sift through dirt at the concrete slab at that site. Did we ever see them near or examining the “beach” area? Did LE dig up that concrete slab because his GPS led them there and they knew he did the prep work for that slab? Did BM get incredibly lucky? MOO

 

[Boxer]

Yes, but was it just that it was 2:30 when the texts stopped coming from her phone? It’s still possible that BM tried to impersonate her on Saturday morning if she actually died Friday night.
I’m still on the fence about whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. However, if it is proven that SM was definitely communicating with someone in some way, shape, or form until 2:30 on Saturday afternoon, then I think this may have been a premeditated murder. Why was BM such a wreck on Saturday morning at the waterfront job site with MG? Why did he break off work early? Why was he in town shopping? It was on Saturday afternoon that he bumped into JP in Salida and asked him if he was available to work the Broomfield job. Alibi set up?
I suppose he could have left work early on Saturday, went home and got into an argument and killed her then, but it doesn’t explain his behavior that morning. Why was he working at the job site Friday night? We all watched the FBI sift through dirt at the concrete slab at that site. Did we ever see them near or examining the “beach” area? Did LE dig up that concrete slab because his GPS led them there and they knew he did the prep work for that slab? Did BM get incredibly lucky? MOO

Interesting.
MOO maybe a divorce talk was discussed on Friday, and then she disappeared on Saturday afternoon.

 

[Janeumayer]

Has anyone figured out what PE meant a few months back around the time of Andy’s search when they mentioned “5”? Even spoke into the camera directly at BM I believe, about the “5” while holding up their hand. They pushed that alot but I never heard if anyone figured out what they were referring to.

A while back some members suggested maybe he was referring to the newly built Chaffee County Fire Station 5: Satellite Link in post below.

CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #42

 

[Knox]

Has anyone figured out what PE meant a few months back around the time of Andy’s search when they mentioned “5”? Even spoke into the camera directly at BM I believe, about the “5” while holding up their hand. They pushed that alot but I never heard if anyone figured out what they were referring to.

38:23
okay who's he turning it on for
38:27
well you see in his mind he's worried
38:32
about the popo okay or as everybody says
38:36
5-0
38:37
okay this guy's thinking about the cops

Funny, I listed to Chris this morning. I think the "5" thing was slang for law enforcement. They were telling Barry the popo are coming for you buddy. All just my opinion.

 

[303gmf]

38:23
okay who's he turning it on for
38:27
well you see in his mind he's worried
38:32
about the popo okay or as everybody says
38:36
5-0
38:37
okay this guy's thinking about the cops

Funny, I listed to Chris this morning. I think the "5" thing was slang for law enforcement. They were telling Barry the popo are coming for you buddy. All just my opinion.

Fire Station # 5 fairly newly built in Maysville is what I interpreted
Moo

 

[PaulaDC]

I know it's been a long time since anyone brought up the woodchipper comments but I was looking at the fire camp site and holy moly, they have the mother of all wood chippers.
Colorado Firecamp, About Us

 

[StarrDetective]

Yes, but was it just that it was 2:30 when the texts stopped coming from her phone? It’s still possible that BM tried to impersonate her on Saturday morning if she actually died Friday night.
I’m still on the fence about whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. However, if it is proven that SM was definitely communicating with someone in some way, shape, or form until 2:30 on Saturday afternoon, then I think this may have been a premeditated murder. Why was BM such a wreck on Saturday morning at the waterfront job site with MG? Why did he break off work early? Why was he in town shopping? It was on Saturday afternoon that he bumped into JP in Salida and asked him if he was available to work the Broomfield job. Alibi set up?
I suppose he could have left work early on Saturday, went home and got into an argument and killed her then, but it doesn’t explain his behavior that morning. Why was he working at the job site Friday night? We all watched the FBI sift through dirt at the concrete slab at that site. Did we ever see them near or examining the “beach” area? Did LE dig up that concrete slab because his GPS led them there and they knew he did the prep work for that slab? Did BM get incredibly lucky? MOO

I’ve considered that maybe SM told BM she wanted a divorce either friday night or Saturday morning. That would explain him acting weird, too. And would explain why he wanted to get home. Just speculating. I wish we could get some answers!

 

[Boxer]

Good points, @al66pine. Many people believe that strangulation is such a “clean” type of murder when it isn’t at all.
I have considered that SM may have been strangled in the hot tub. Too late, the suspect realized that there were bodily fluids in the water. Did he drain it and try to clean it out?
There is a business called Salida Stove and Spa which carries pool cleaning supplies. I wonder if BM happened to stop in there Saturday afternoon while he was in town?
Is that the receipt he was looking for in the trash at the Poncha Market on Tuesday? Or was he stashing the receipt there? By Tuesday BM knew that LE wasn’t buying his story.
MOO

Excellent thought.

 

[Aloe]

Yes I suppose it’s possible the daughters used coolers for their camping trip, however LE searches of the home were executed after the daughter’s returned from their camping trip. The first LE search of the home was on May 19th iirc. The second LE search of the home was executed in early July, so I’d think any coolers used for the camping trip would’ve been returned to the home by then, but that’s jmo.

As far as abandoned mines having been searched, I don’t remember hearing anything about LE having searched any, but I do recall AM discussing on an episode of PE, having attempted to search an abandoned mine during his big search last fall and iirc, (paraphrased) he said he had started down the mine with flashlight in hand, but he slipped/started slipping, and had to abort his mission as it was too dangerous to continue on searching the mine.
Personally, I have thought it entirely possible that SM was disposed of/dropped down an abandoned mine shaft. Apparently there are a plethora of abandoned mines located off the beaten paths/remote wilderness in CO, and I remember hearing or reading somewhere that locations of abandoned mines can be known to experienced/expert Hunters and Trackers, as there’s a strong likelihood they’d come across them while out on hunting excursion/s.

IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

Thanks for the details regarding the home searches, @fcavanaugh, I appreciate the background.

As for the mines, it seems there should be a way to send camera's down some of them. Got me thinking of the "Speed Freak Killers" case.

"Shermantine began mapping locations of remains he claimed were discarded in abandoned wells and mine shafts and buried on remote hillsides and beneath a trailer park after meeting late last year with retired FBI agent Jeffrey Rinek."
'Speed Freak' killer breaks silence on where the bodies are

 

[Aloe]

Yes, but was it just that it was 2:30 when the texts stopped coming from her phone? It’s still possible that BM tried to impersonate her on Saturday morning if she actually died Friday night.
I’m still on the fence about whether SM died Friday night or Saturday. However, if it is proven that SM was definitely communicating with someone in some way, shape, or form until 2:30 on Saturday afternoon, then I think this may have been a premeditated murder. Why was BM such a wreck on Saturday morning at the waterfront job site with MG? Why did he break off work early? Why was he in town shopping? It was on Saturday afternoon that he bumped into JP in Salida and asked him if he was available to work the Broomfield job. Alibi set up?
I suppose he could have left work early on Saturday, went home and got into an argument and killed her then, but it doesn’t explain his behavior that morning. Why was he working at the job site Friday night? We all watched the FBI sift through dirt at the concrete slab at that site. Did we ever see them near or examining the “beach” area? Did LE dig up that concrete slab because his GPS led them there and they knew he did the prep work for that slab? Did BM get incredibly lucky? MOO

Was it confirmed that SM and BM were seen together, getting a sandwich, on Saturday afternoon?

 

[Rachelj1]

Was it confirmed that SM and BM were seen together, getting a sandwich, on Saturday afternoon?

This is a big question I have too. This kind of changes things if they were together on Saturday Bc that makes it no questions that this happened on Saturday. I actually think she was killed Saturday night . I think he tried to bury her and got busted by the woman hearing his bobcat .
Moo

 

[Rachelj1]

Interesting.
MOO maybe a divorce talk was discussed on Friday, and then she disappeared on Saturday afternoon.

I definitely think something was said that hurt his ego badly, and on Saturday he knew he was probably thinking about what to do...and Saturday evening he strangled her. He thought he could bury her but the woman woke up and turned on her light and he got spooked. Then he had to come up with plan B the motel room. He was panicking. He dragged MG and JP in because he knew enough money would get them to do this "job" that wasn't even planned. Barry used the hotel as a alibi and to shower and try to get rid of evidence. Sunday , Mothers Day, the girls could not reach her...Barry probably tried to reassure them shes fine but they were worried.
I think HE planted that bike as a last resort only bc the girls and the neighbor. Who knows what his real plan was. Then , like mentioned before his buddy made it seem like a crime scene. Barry has at least three stories already in his mind to say that could of possibly happened.

I think LE knows its him, but they cant make a charge hold at this point and like Oldcop said...they have one shot to charge him with her murder. His actions , his lies on his timeline, him asking her dad to sign everything over to him, him saying 3 weeks in shes not coming back, him selling the home, just every single thing he is doing shows guilt imo.

Its a matter of time before he goes down. Divorce , not murder ? He couldn't handle anyone else having her. She was his. I think he has somehow justified this in his head because he thinks hes a victim. " I spent all these years with you through cancer , raised the girls, worked" . He feels it was his right to kill her.
Sick, sick way to think....

No Barry, Suzanne had a lot of life to live too left, not just YOU.
MOO

 

[Rachelj1]

I’ve considered that maybe SM told BM she wanted a divorce either friday night or Saturday morning. That would explain him acting weird, too. And would explain why he wanted to get home. Just speculating. I wish we could get some answers!

I completely agree.

MOO

 

[Rachelj1]

I agree that it's a stretch, but I also suspect BM knew Suzanne was never coming back. Ed Smart would have never sold the family home and moved away but that's because he had genuine hope Elizabeth would be found alive and come home to loving, familiar surroundings. Thankfully, that's exactly how it worked out.

I don't believe BM ever had any kind of hope like that because he knew Suzanne was never coming back. All the legal, financial and real estate moves from almost immediately after she went missing (3 weeks in, when "Gene, you know I loved your daughter, now sign these papers" happened), reek to high heaven, that he knew from day 1. As has been reported from the PE guys, that past tense reference to Suzanne really stood out to GM, and it would have to anyone else as well.

jmo

He's already trying to justify the murder in his head with that statement..
MOO

 

[Ontario Mom]

I know it's been a long time since anyone brought up the woodchipper comments but I was looking at the fire camp site and holy moly, they have the mother of all wood chippers.
Colorado Firecamp, About Us

WARNING - GRAPHIC DETAILS:



If I had to take a guess about the ways someone would definitely NOT dispose of a body if they were trying hard to be discreet, a wood chipper would be at the very top of my list.

Such a machine would take a single source of DNA (the body) and turn it into hundreds if not thousands of evidence fragments of DNA in the machine, as well as any "over spray" of material that missed the collection apparatus that may end up on the ground, in a tree, or just about anywhere. It would be next to impossible to collect it all in a neat, tidy way.
Just ask Richard Crafts, when he tried it.

I can only imagine then, the great lengths it would take to disassemble the machine and clean each and every piece that came in contact with the body, and then return the machine to it's owner, with the hopes you are the #1 wood chipper cleaner in the universe, and you didn't miss a single tiny bit of bio material in the machine.

jmo

 

[OldCop]

Was it confirmed that SM and BM were seen together, getting a sandwich, on Saturday afternoon?

No, it has not been confirmed, @Aloe. A lot of the businesses were closed or only had takeout in early May. It was the height of the pandemic at that time. Also, JP never mentioned that SM was with BM when he ran into him in Salida Saturday afternoon.

 

[OldCop]

I definitely think something was said that hurt his ego badly, and on Saturday he knew he was probably thinking about what to do...and Saturday evening he strangled her. He thought he could bury her but the woman woke up and turned on her light and he got spooked. Then he had to come up with plan B the motel room. He was panicking. He dragged MG and JP in because he knew enough money would get them to do this "job" that wasn't even planned. Barry used the hotel as a alibi and to shower and try to get rid of evidence. Sunday , Mothers Day, the girls could not reach her...Barry probably tried to reassure them shes fine but they were worried.
I think HE planted that bike as a last resort only bc the girls and the neighbor. Who knows what his real plan was. Then , like mentioned before his buddy made it seem like a crime scene. Barry has at least three stories already in his mind to say that could of possibly happened.

I think LE knows its him, but they cant make a charge hold at this point and like Oldcop said...they have one shot to charge him with her murder. His actions , his lies on his timeline, him asking her dad to sign everything over to him, him saying 3 weeks in shes not coming back, him selling the home, just every single thing he is doing shows guilt imo.

Its a matter of time before he goes down. Divorce , not murder ? He couldn't handle anyone else having her. She was his. I think he has somehow justified this in his head because he thinks hes a victim. " I spent all these years with you through cancer , raised the girls, worked" . He feels it was his right to kill her.
Sick, sick way to think....

No Barry, Suzanne had a lot of life to live too left, not just YOU.
MOO

I agree with most of this, @Rachelj1. The only problem is he asked JP if he would be available to work the Broomfield job on Saturday afternoon. If Suzanne wasn’t killed until Saturday night, it means he preplanned his alibi and it was premeditated murder.

 

[Rachelj1]

I agree with most of this, @Rachelj1. The only problem is he asked JP if he would be available to work the Broomfield job on Saturday afternoon. If Suzanne wasn’t killed until Saturday night, it means he preplanned his alibi and it was premeditated murder.

I'm completely open to it being premeditated too . I would not put that past him, and I'm glad you agree because I honestly think you are absolutely on to something with the hot tub!!
MOO

 

[Rachelj1]

I agree with most of this, @Rachelj1. The only problem is he asked JP if he would be available to work the Broomfield job on Saturday afternoon. If Suzanne wasn’t killed until Saturday night, it means he preplanned his alibi and it was premeditated murder.

I think he may of planned it possibly after Friday night, which would maybe explain why he was acting strange. It kind of all is starting to piece together for me. I have a hard time if it doesnt make sense.... but this theory , and yours which explains the chlorine ... I mean if i was an attorney and had no body..... I would be arguing this is what happened.

MOO

 

[wishBones1962]

WARNING - GRAPHIC DETAILS:



If I had to take a guess about the ways someone would definitely NOT dispose of a body if they were trying hard to be discreet, a wood chipper would be at the very top of my list.

Such a machine would take a single source of DNA (the body) and turn it into hundreds if not thousands of evidence fragments of DNA in the machine, as well as any "over spray" of material that missed the collection apparatus that may end up on the ground, in a tree, or just about anywhere. It would be next to impossible to collect it all in a neat, tidy way.
Just ask Richard Crafts, when he tried it.

I can only imagine then, the great lengths it would take to disassemble the machine and clean each and every piece that came in contact with the body, and then return the machine to it's owner, with the hopes you are the #1 wood chipper cleaner in the universe, and you didn't miss a single tiny bit of bio material in the machine.

jmo

IMO; this scenario is plausible, because, according to MG, BM sounded frantic. Freak out mode.
What to do....what to do....must get rid of this body.
Somebody in FO mode, wouldn't be considering the implications of using a woodchipper, and all of the millions of pieces of evidence it will produce. If in face BM was in the middle of panic, he would be making hasty decisions. Or, driving around in circles trying to come up with a body disposal site. IMO, IF it was a heat of the moment homicide.
Premeditated? Still possibly panic mode. His anxiety levels and vitals will still be through the roof, even while trying to follow through on his plans. No longer Mr Calm & Cool. JMO of course.
Also....IMO.....BM had possibly come across many many abandoned mine shafts that were accessible. He would have/could have, already made that discovery in one of his previous hunting trips. Guy, out in the great vast mountains-legit hunting of course- stumbles upon a previous mine access/shaft. Hmmm.

Number 5. Hmm. What could it possibly refer to(?) Only LE and BM would know of course. I think CM brought it up just to shake up BM. It apparently hasn't been a confirmed piece of evidence. Yet. Who knows.

Did he get "lucky". I suspect luck more than his being a very good perp at hiding a body. Selling the PP property didn't seem to phase him. Nor the other newly acquired property. So, IMO, she is in neither of those places.

Of course, I believe, it was critical to mis-direct. Look here. Not there. "It wasn't ME".

This is all just my own opinion. After months now of following along on the case. How it develops. Reading here. And there. Waiting to see what the outcome will eventually be. So many perps, make a major mistake in the end. Something.....critical...they were not aware of or had even considered.

Just my own speculation.

MOO JMO IMO