CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #2

[Lera213]

1. Putu 21 up, 8 down
Rank, stink, below average, crap. This can refer to a set of circumstances or specific items.
Man Rangi's car is Putu. I'm suprised it even starts in the morning
buy putu mugs & shirts
sux crap no-good stink rangi
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2. putu 21 up, 23 down
the best and coolest person ever
Putu is so awesome and amazing.

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[concernedmother]

I know I read that neighbor has since moved out. I cant remember if it was the early days of the blog tho.

 

[aussie_girl88]

Well, that helps the anger make a tiny bit more sense. I'll suppose they already knew a bit from the Ingrams? Or just the newly installed motion lights going off gave them a heads up that someone was coming around. Perhaps he wanted police to confirm stalking rumors so he could be more vigilant? (Have to admit my first thought was he's the peeper though, sigh.)

I for one would never go up to a scene where the police are. Next door or not. I can find out later what was going on, or if the police come knocking on my door. I've seen too many people get charged with something for stepping in where they should have just peeped out the window or looked up a scanner channel.

No way I would be angry though. Curious yes. Maybe even a little fearful, but anger would not be a reaction for me.

Still find the anger unusual.

Yeah I think this is when he found out, because the LE had told them not to inform the neighbours because they suspected it was someone from the neighbourhood.

He may have suspected it, but I just understand the anger behind it.

 

[concernedmother]

Actually IIRC most of the info about K came from E.

 

[wyome]

1. MI seems very, very immature for her age. She was still living at home, and the mother, thus far, hasn't mentioned anything about her having plans of leaving.

I agree. If my daughter was living with us during her college years, the last thing I would do is purchase her a dog. Not only is that a HUGE responsibility, but time-consuming as well, and doesn't fit in real well with a full-time student and a 19-20 yr. old's nightlife/social calendar. Not to mention it is an approx. 15 YEAR commitment, and extremely limiting to a student who may be considering an apartment/dorm in the future.

I would understand the whole dog thing a little more if it was a family gift, and they just chose a breed that Morgan had a special affinity for. But, by the mother's account, it was Morgan's puppy, it was a gift for her, and she was the primary owner.

 

[wyome]

Do you think he could be the cam man? It may have caught him leaving. Didnt he also have a shirt just like TI described and showed it toher and also brought up the shoes?

I think you're right...he may have been the one to bring up the shirt and shoes...I've got to reread her blog from that time

 

[ScotsPaddy]

Welcome and nice post Mogwai.

 

[ScotsPaddy]

Yes E went and got a shirt similar to show mom i think after seeing the stalker pic..

 

[21merc7]

1. MI seems very, very immature for her age. She was still living at home, and the mother, thus far, hasn't mentioned anything about her having plans of leaving.

I agree. If my daughter was living with us during her college years, the last thing I would do is purchase her a dog. Not only is that a HUGE responsibility, but time-consuming as well, and doesn't fit in real well with a full-time student and a 19-20 yr. old's nightlife/social calendar. Not to mention it is an approx. 15 YEAR commitment, and extremely limiting to a student who may be considering an apartment/dorm in the future.

I would understand the whole dog thing a little more if it was a family gift, and they just chose a breed that Morgan had a special affinity for. But, by the mother's account, it was Morgan's puppy, it was a gift for her, and she was the primary owner.

Hadn't thought about the dog this way, but you are right about renting with pets, much less a dog.

I did think perhaps there was some knowledge of a stalker a bit before the August 3 return home, and that is why she got a dog. A very protective breed at that. Very smart too.

ETA: I can't fix the messed up quote, quote thing. I tried.

 

[gitana1]

Did anyone else find it odd that the neighbor, when he finally approached the family's home when the police were there, was angry and demanded to know what was going on? Maybe it's just me, but if the police were repeatedly coming and going from a home near my house, I'd be more inclined to consider 1) domestic issues or 2) attempted burgulary. In the case of #1, I'd be concerned, but not angry; in #2, I'd be concerned, but not angry. I don't know, maybe it's just me. But when I read the mother's account she conveyed he was pretty upset and confrontational...mentioning he's got two daughters himself (if iirc).
If I was the mother, and under THAT much pressure and frustration, and been just delivered a *I demand to know what's going on* speech by an angry neighbor, I might have just gone off on him something fierce. According to her blog, he became quite helpful after that, texting and offering Morgan his home, etc. But I found that neighbor's initial reaction strange.

Please remember, this is the mom's perception. I too, found the reaction odd but that is how she described and perceived it. I have a lot of experience with watching different people perceive the same thing completely differently.

 

[ChunkyMonkey]

Yep, checked whitepages.com and, unless B and family rent their house to someone else and are living in a rental that is not theirs, then the PUTU house is not where B and K live.

B and her entire family were linving in one house on Corral Drive. Later, J and CH got separated/divorced. Ch remained in the original house, and J and B rented a different house a few doors down.

This is explained in an early entry on the blog. The mom describes how many doors down each house is, but it is confusing.

 

[TripleE]

B and her entire family were linving in one house on Corral Drive. Later, J and CH got separated/divorced. Ch remained in the original house, and J and B rented a different house a few doors down.

This is explained in an early entry on the blog. The mom describes how many doors down each house is, but it is confusing.

Thanks, I don't remember reading that at all. I did read where TI said K was 3 houses down, which would still not be the house with PUTU.

 

[ChunkyMonkey]

Do you think he could be the cam man? It may have caught him leaving. Didnt he also have a shirt just like TI described and showed it toher and also brought up the shoes?

I don't know, but that whole shirt thing was so strange to me. What's so unique about that shirt? It's a long-sleeved white T-shirt. She says he ran inside and brought out an identical shirt to she to show her it really wasn't that unique. (Remember, the mom told E that she couldn't picture a young kid wearing a shirt like the guy in the picture was wearing.)

 

[deca]

I think what probably happened was ---E saw all the police cars and eventually came over too see what was going on. When he heard that some crazy stalker was peeping in the windows he THEN got mad and demanded why no one had told him earlier since he has daughters. That seems like a logical reaction on his part.
If my neighbors were getting stalked by some potentially dangerous person and the perp was creeping around at night near my property I would want to know asap!

JMO

 

[Lera213]

try as I may on Google Earth I do not see the second trail at all.

 

[gitana1]

Another thing I find strange is the lack of reaction of the dogs. The mom has an explanation for that - one is "not protective" or something and the other was too young. But it doesn't jibe to me.

If I was being stalked like that, I would purchase a couple of fully grown German Shepards, the more aggressive, the better, and simply open the door when I heard "tapping" or banging.

You think an angry dog couldn't catch some scummy little peeper who thinks it's cute to harass a family and then scurry into the dark? I'm betting they would have heard screams of pain within moments of opening the door.

Four months of that carp and no on thought to purchase a serious guard dog? They can smell and track and dogs are fast!

 

[TripleE]

try as I may on Google Earth I do not see the second trail at all.

It's behind the houses on the cul-de-sac, pointed toward the highway

 

[gitana1]

It's behind the houses on the cul-de-sac, pointed toward the highway

Can someone link me? I lost the link.

 

[Lera213]

It's behind the houses on the cul-de-sac, pointed toward the highway

great description but I still don't see it.

 

[wyome]

I think what probably happened was ---E saw all the police cars and eventually came over too see what was going on. When he heard that some crazy stalker was peeping in the windows he THEN got mad and demanded why no one had told him earlier since he has daughters. That seems like a logical reaction on his part.
If my neighbors were getting stalked by some potentially dangerous person and the perp was creeping around at night near my property I would want to know asap!

JMO

That could very well be the case. I still think it's odd, though, if he's so agitated and concerned for his two daughters, why he would insist Morgan (the neighbor this freak is after) come to his house.