Discussion thread for Jodi Arias Journals

[Val1]

Did Jodi's dad tell Flores that Jodi had made some mortgage payments on her credit cards?

BBM You mean this bit?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1304/29/ng.01.html

MOTHER: Jodi has mental problems. Jodi would freak out all the time. I`ve had quite a few of her friends call me and tell me that I needed to get her some help. In fact, I had one call me in the middle of the night and tell me that she needed help. Jodi would call me -- we didn`t have a good relationship, me and Jodi.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your husband kind of told me about the relationship.

MOTHER: She would call me in the morning all happy, and call me an hour or two later in tears, crying and sobbing about something she didn`t want to talk about. And that happened constantly, and her friends thought -- too -- I had one friend call me in the middle of the night, and he even called a hotline for bipolar people and said Jodi is bipolar and she needs help. And that`s when we talked her into coming back here so she could be around family.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She just shut down, she completely shut down. I was hoping maybe she`d at least tell me why, but she just -- you know, I guess it`s the same treatment you have been getting for the last I don`t know how many years, you know. Just nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, it`s just like a straight face. Nothing there. I keep telling, I mean, I told her one time when she called me and started yelling. I said, you know what, have ever thought of yourself as being bipolar? Oh my God, she cried, she cried, hysterically, and she called back and I hung up on her. That`s what I do when she starts going off on me. I just hang up. And she called up and kept calling and kept calling and kept calling until I could tell her no, I was just kidding. I told my wife, I said, you know, I think I hit a fine tooth there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is kind of strange.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is just the way she`s been. When she was in Palm Desert after that, man, that`s when everything, I don`t know what, it`s been a couple years then. She`s been a little crazy for a year. It`s been longer than that. All I think about is when she moved to Palm Desert, because you know, she started using credit cards to make her $3,000 a month payments. Because she lost her job or something, and then she got just financially in debt.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s not good. She hasn`t been in a good situation in a while then.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. It`s been bad.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, this Travis guy, I guess helped her out quite a bit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As far as I know, but I do know that one day when she called me crying hysterically when she decided to move to Mesa, Arizona, she snuck up to his house and she looked in the window and she saw him there on the couch with another woman. And she was planning on marrying this guy. So she just left. But then she stayed there for I don`t know how many months.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She couldn`t explain it either. I said, you guys are broken up, why don`t you just leave? Why don`t you go home? Why don`t you -- she said well, I didn`t. I just didn`t. And she could not tell me why.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jodi would not let anybody say anything to discredit him either, because I did say a few things after she told me that he was with another girl. I said you need to get the hell out of that town and leave that guy alone.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every time I called her, she was over at his house. Every time I called her. She would say, he is letting me use his computer. She was all over there and she was in there cleaning his house, she was all over the place in there. I said, but -- she said he wasn`t dealing with any women that I know of, and I think any time maybe he went out with a woman or something or she kind of had a suspicion, that is my thought.

Somebody called her and she got a little hysterical and quit her job. Well, she called up and said she wasn`t coming in.

 

[pocketaccent]

I don't think Travis was in love with Lisa, or Mimi, and he certainly wasn't with JA. From all I've read, Deanna was the one woman he ever genuinely loved for herself. I think he'd have married her had his childhood been less traumatic.

As it was, even though Travis expressed desperation at the approach of an unmarried age 30, I don't read in his journal that he was ready to commit to anyone. Wife material Mimi and Lisa are in the running, but he sounds most intrigued by a 19 year old, and only mentions her looks as to why he's interested.

I don't think he would have been thinking about marriage at all if he wasn't Mormon.

BBM I couldn't agree more with you on that!
Never thought of that on my own.

 

[tcrockett]

How come we aren't seeing these kinds of gems in the trial.?

Because it's not Juans' turn yet!

 

[tcrockett]

Paid $5.99 for one month subscription and began to read yesterday. Read volume 1 and I started to feel this weird sensation of sympathy for the convict. I welcomed that weird feeling and didn't fight it. Kept reading on. Started to feel creeped out as I began to feel her manipulation through her writings. She is lying to her journal. She wants her journal to view her as a nice person. She wants Travis to read the journal and feel sorry for her, sorry enough to marry her. She is thinking and behaving like a immature teenager. Her depression is fake. Everything in her journal is fake. She makes up lies as she writes. The content of journal entries does not match the real Jodi Arias as we know and have seen during the trial, 48 hour interviews, interrogation, or her false accusation of Travis's character. She is more evil than I imagined or realized. I really did wanted to feel sympathy for her for change, but failed.

One interesting point I found. March 22, 2008 (Volume 5), She notes this date as her 2 year anniversary with Pre-Paid Legal. I thought she started PPL shortly before she met Travis. Maybe I was wrong.

Another note I found that I LOL is on Dec 31, 2007 (Volume 3). A short Mexican prep cook asks her out and she laughs and walks away. Then she complains about how it's always the really short Mexicans that have a disproportionately huge sense of self confidence. Well missy, say hello to Mr. Martinez!

BBM: best line of the trial for me!!

 

[tcrockett]

Anything interesting on Pg 29 or prior? (BTW: What dates are we talkin'?)

TIA

All of the pages you listed are dated June 1st 2008. Who knows when they were really written. From looking at these copies, there is nothing different about these pages than any other. I am not the smartest girl in town and my eyes are old as the rest of me but I don't see any indentations/discolorations/nothing...but they are copies. There are no "drawings" in any of the journals that I have seen. There are doodles while in a meeting but nothing like we have seen of her "art".

 

[Deleted member 122533]

"Did Jodi's dad tell Flores that Jodi had made some mortgage payments on her credit cards?" -TexMex

Yes, during his interview with Detective Flores.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

BBM You mean this bit?




MOTHER: Jodi has mental problems. Jodi would freak out all the time. I`ve had quite a few of her friends call me and tell me that I needed to get her some help. In fact, I had one call me in the middle of the night and tell me that she needed help. Jodi would call me -- we didn`t have a good relationship, me and Jodi.

We now know it was Matt M that was one of the friends that called Sandy. I wonder if Darryl ever did call to get her help since he was the one that drove her crazy that one day. And wasn't that what Jodi said Travis would do to her? She never told Samuels, LaVolette, MCF, or Gefner about Darryl and his messing with her head psychologically that day. And Darryl was the third man that left her. Each man in her life left her for another woman - Darryl it was for his son.


MOTHER: She would call me in the morning all happy, and call me an hour or two later in tears, crying and sobbing about something she didn`t want to talk about. And that happened constantly, and her friends thought -- too -- I had one friend call me in the middle of the night, and he even called a hotline for bipolar people and said Jodi is bipolar and she needs help. And that`s when we talked her into coming back here so she could be around family.[/B]

That would of been April 9th?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, it`s just like a straight face. Nothing there. I keep telling, I mean, I told her one time when she called me and started yelling. I said, you know what, have ever thought of yourself as being bipolar? Oh my God, she cried, she cried, hysterically, and she called back and I hung up on her. That`s what I do when she starts going off on me. I just hang up. And she called up and kept calling and kept calling and kept calling until I could tell her no, I was just kidding. I told my wife, I said, you know, I think I hit a fine tooth there.

and Jodi said Travis would blow up her phone calling repeatedly when she didn't answer. Can you imagine what all she out Travis through?



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is just the way she`s been. When she was in Palm Desert after that, man, that`s when everything, I don`t know what, it`s been a couple years then. She`s been a little crazy for a year. It`s been longer than that. All I think about is when she moved to Palm Desert, because you know, she started using credit cards to make her $3,000 a month payments. Because she lost her job or something, and then she got just financially in debt.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s not good. She hasn`t been in a good situation in a while then.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. It`s been bad.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, this Travis guy, I guess helped her out quite a bit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As far as I know, but I do know that one day when she called me crying hysterically when she decided to move to Mesa, Arizona, she snuck up to his house and she looked in the window and she saw him there on the couch with another woman. And she was planning on marrying this guy. So she just left. But then she stayed there for I don`t know how many months.

This happened in August right after she moved there. The excuse was to go get her SS card? Why would you go around to the back of someones house if you needed to get something and you knew they were at home?

 

[Tiger09]

Is there any clue as to why MM would help her fake the infamous pedo letters?

 

[mydirtysecret]

Is there any clue as to why MM would help her fake the infamous pedo letters?

My guess? Maybe because he believed her story and knew she had no proof so helped her recreate evidence, in his mind. But we'll never know until or unless he tells

 

[5bigfish5]

Is there any clue as to why MM would help her fake the infamous pedo letters?

She must know something real bad on him. Nothing else makes any sense to me.

 

[Val1]

She must know something real bad on him. Nothing else makes any sense to me.

Perhaps she threatened his family with some kind of exposure? Isn't his dad a doctor and iirc I had read MM had a new family now, not to mention whatever other info/evidence she may have collected or made about him and his over the last fifteen years since she dated him. I wonder whether this "new family" has come about since he and his friend spent the night with her just before she left on that last Mesa trip?

 

[Sedonia Sunset]

I think the bulk of her money was spent on those "$300" . imo

Whenever I think of someone getting a low-cost boob job, I remember an episode of King Of The Hill. Hank's father, Cotton, says not to tell his wife, but that he got a real deal on her boob job because "they're both lefties".

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Is there any clue as to why MM would help her fake the infamous pedo letters?

Only that Jodi said he'd never betray her ,and Juan asked if she was sure about that. Matt has posted online about seeing Jodi covered in bruises - my question is why didn't you take the stand last year when she was claiming Travis chocked and kicked her? Matt is also in the mix on Jodi trip. She stopped and stay the night with him and a friend and went to a club IIRC. Some of us think she sold or had him fence a few things for her.

Bobby Juarez was Matt McCarthy roommate, and Matt knew Darryl.

 

[Ricki]

Only that Jodi said he'd never betray her ,and Juan asked if she was sure about that. Matt has posted online about seeing Jodi covered in bruises - my question is why didn't you take the stand last year when she was claiming Travis chocked and kicked her? Matt is also in the mix on Jodi trip. She stopped and stay the night with him and a friend and went to a club IIRC. Some of us think she sold or had him fence a few things for her.

How do we even know that it was the real Matt who posted that? I believe it was on the JAII site. Not sure, just remember reading it. Anyone can get on line and post as someone else, so I hear. And why would he even attempt to do so? I can't figure that out since Juan had said something about slapping him with perjury charges if he testified and lied. You think he would keep a low profile then. It appears that he was involved in the secret messages in the magazine. Was he to be the recipient of them? I believe he was. He f'd up according to her and she wanted him to go and straighten it out and tell her version and fix it. I also remember Juan saying something about her friend (Matt), whom she thought would never betray her. It's been so long but I think I am in correct in that. There is really no good information on Matt. It seems that he does not want to be found or bothered with this fiasco anymore. I believe JA does have something on him. The stalker that she is.

About the bruises:http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-declares-shes-innocent-frist-degree-murder/story?id=18591150
During a day of contentious questions and answers between Martinez and Arias, the prosecutor used Arias' own diary entries and text messages to show contradictions of her claims that Alexander was abusive toward her, that he hit her and tried to choke her.

Arias said that in early 2008, Alexander hit her in the neck while they were riding in his car. Martinez showed a diary entry describing the day they rode in the car, and there was no mention of physical violence.

"This entry does not corroborate what you told us happened in the car," he said. "With regard to the (choking incident) you didn't call police. You didn't tell anyone about it. There is no corroboration anywhere in your journal. All we have is your word. Are there photos? Any other writings? Is there a police report? Is there a medical report?"

Arias said there was no evidence that the alleged abuse happened, except for her testimony in court.

"There's no evidence because it didn't happen, did it ma'am?" Martinez yelled.

Arias said that she had told one person about the abuse she claims she suffered at the hands of Alexander, and that it was another ex-boyfriend, Matthew McCartney. But when pressed for details about the conversation in which she told him, Arias became confused and changed her answers.

"I saw (Matt) a few days later, and he called me out on the bruises," Arias testified.

"Where?"

"Over the phone, just days after I think," she said.

"Isn't it true he wouldn't have been able to see your injuries because you were talking over the telephone?"

"No, I was in Yreka (California) by then. I stopped to see Matt after I left Arizona. Let's see, I believe it was two or three days after. I'm not saying there was no telephone call, (but) it was at his house. I went and saw Matt, and some make-up wore off, and he confronted me on (the bruises)."

Martinez said that McCartney has denied the conversation ever took place.


Is this Jodis Matt Mccarthy?? If this is not him and this is inappropriate, please delete video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0JwjLlzRp0

I have not seen many pics of Matt but YesorNo posted this link on the side bar, which includes a pic of him and they look similar. What do you think?http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/...-progress.html

 

[ICit]

Is there any clue as to why MM would help her fake the infamous pedo letters?

I think that the visit to Matt was to give him the disk with the pedo letters SHE made on it. For safe keeping? Just in case she got caught? Her premeditation was more extensive than we will ever know, IMO. I have wondered if she didn't run cons on all her exes for continuing income (blackmail). I would love to see her tax returns. I would also love to know how many of the 80,000 communications were from JA trying to contact him over and over again. I have also wondered how many of the really bad responses from Travis were actually made by the beast herself. She had his passwords. Who extends the mileage necessary on a trip to kill someone so they can write it off on their business expense? The photo shoot of the baby that she never got to that was further than the borrow gas cans stop? The 'I got lost' on my way to Utah and accidentally went thru a part of Arizona excuse? She IMO was a well practiced con.

 

[ICit]

In early 2008, JA claims on the stand the following;
"No, I was in Yreka (California) by then. I stopped to see Matt after I left Arizona. Let's see, I believe it was two or three days after. I'm not saying there was no telephone call, (but) it was at his house. I went and saw Matt, and some make-up wore off, and he confronted me on (the bruises
Was she really talking about after she killed Travis in this testimony? Does this account for the missing hours between Mesa and Utah? The hours she said she was out of gas, sleeping on the side of the road?

 

[Ricki]

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...ail&mid=28EC0867545C6157A15D28EC0867545C6157A

Around the 1.38 mark Juan is asking Brewer about the morning JA had stopped at his house.

What I find interesting. Juan asked Brewer if an individual named Matt McCarthy showed up.
Brewer answers 'No" and nothing more was said of it.

Brewer seems to try to skirt some answers throughout this video when asked by Juan. Brewer does answer but he hesitates and speaks very softly when answering.

 

[ShadyLady]

Whenever I think of someone getting a low-cost boob job, I remember an episode of King Of The Hill. Hank's father, Cotton, says not to tell his wife, but that he got a real deal on her boob job because "they're both lefties".

I am sure there are no $300 ....that was where her $12,000 went, and she lied to Darryl about real cost, as she was skimping on house payments. imo

 

[tcrockett]

this person has done an amazing job comparing texts/journals/phone records. Wow. Props to her!

http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.com/

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Only that Jodi said he'd never betray her ,and Juan asked if she was sure about that. Matt has posted online about seeing Jodi covered in bruises - my question is why didn't you take the stand last year when she was claiming Travis chocked and kicked her? Matt is also in the mix on Jodi trip. She stopped and stay the night with him and a friend and went to a club IIRC. Some of us think she sold or had him fence a few things for her.

How do we even know that it was the real Matt who posted that? I believe it was on the JAII site. Not sure, just remember reading it. Anyone can get on line and post as someone else, so I hear. And why would he even attempt to do so? I can't figure that out since Juan had said something about slapping him with perjury charges if he testified and lied. You think he would keep a low profile then. It appears that he was involved in the secret messages in the magazine. Was he to be the recipient of them? I believe he was. He f'd up according to her and she wanted him to go and straighten it out and tell her version and fix it. I also remember Juan saying something about her friend (Matt), whom she thought would never betray her. It's been so long but I think I am in correct in that. There is really no good information on Matt. It seems that he does not want to be found or bothered with this fiasco anymore. I believe JA does have something on him. The stalker that she is.

About the bruises:http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-declares-shes-innocent-frist-degree-murder/story?id=18591150
During a day of contentious questions and answers between Martinez and Arias, the prosecutor used Arias' own diary entries and text messages to show contradictions of her claims that Alexander was abusive toward her, that he hit her and tried to choke her.

Arias said that in early 2008, Alexander hit her in the neck while they were riding in his car. Martinez showed a diary entry describing the day they rode in the car, and there was no mention of physical violence.

"This entry does not corroborate what you told us happened in the car," he said. "With regard to the (choking incident) you didn't call police. You didn't tell anyone about it. There is no corroboration anywhere in your journal. All we have is your word. Are there photos? Any other writings? Is there a police report? Is there a medical report?"

Arias said there was no evidence that the alleged abuse happened, except for her testimony in court.

"There's no evidence because it didn't happen, did it ma'am?" Martinez yelled.

Arias said that she had told one person about the abuse she claims she suffered at the hands of Alexander, and that it was another ex-boyfriend, Matthew McCartney. But when pressed for details about the conversation in which she told him, Arias became confused and changed her answers.

"I saw (Matt) a few days later, and he called me out on the bruises," Arias testified.

"Where?"

"Over the phone, just days after I think," she said.

"Isn't it true he wouldn't have been able to see your injuries because you were talking over the telephone?"

"No, I was in Yreka (California) by then. I stopped to see Matt after I left Arizona. Let's see, I believe it was two or three days after. I'm not saying there was no telephone call, (but) it was at his house. I went and saw Matt, and some make-up wore off, and he confronted me on (the bruises)."

Martinez said that McCartney has denied the conversation ever took place.


Is this Jodis Matt Mccarthy?? If this is not him and this is inappropriate, please delete video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0JwjLlzRp0

I have not seen many pics of Matt but YesorNo posted this link on the side bar, which includes a pic of him and they look similar. What do you think?http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/...-progress.html

Shanna Hogan said that it was confirmed that Matt Macartneyw as involved in the pedo letters. She posted on The State v Jodi Arais.

About those bruises - in the Troy Haden interview she said -

ARIAS: There was a man who saw me with bruises all over. I would have made every effort to find him, and they didn`t. There are other people who saw me with bruises, my friends, my sisters. And the defense didn`t call them for their own reasons. And I think that would have corroborated some of the things that I said.

On the hard drive that we just discussed, the one that was not part of my trial, I took pictures of myself during that time not specifically for that purpose, but just being on the road. And I just keep thinking maybe it was in that photo, tons of things.

What other purpose would she have if not to document something like that? I laugh each time I read this crap. She would of made every effort to find this secret man, and in a trial for your life your defense is self defense because of abuse, but your defense didn't call them for their own reasons. Does she listen to what she is saying at times? why would you not give up the name - she could of right there in that interview - or ask the judge for help and I'm sure they'd looking high and low for him. I think Jodi has something on Matt, and it has to be something that would incriminate her. Drug dealing - breaking and entering and stealing a gun and a few other things? Many have asked why neither side has called Matt to the stand, and think Nurmi and Wilmont would rather eat ground glass, and Juan doesn't have to to prove his case, but he'd reap the rewards if Matt does.