UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025.

[davidt]

I agree the reporting around the tenancy situation is very vague and confusing. Some of the wording such as "indicated" could mean just about anything. Similarly the landlady visiting to make " inquiries " is also open to multiple interpretations. We've no idea really what was going on there or the relationship between them and the landlady. Also no idea at what stage the whole process was or indeed if they were definitely leaving.

I also think the police statement saying they found no specific items to indicate the ladies intended either to disappear or harm themselves to be a very narrow statement. I take it to mean they didn't find a suicide note or anything similar explictly stating what they intended to do. I'm not sure it tells us much beyond that tbh. To me it doesn't rule out the possibility they DID find specific items that raised grave concern, just that those items didn't provide anything in detail about specific plans and intentions. Certainly it appears the landlady knew something was wrong straightaway and the police also took that view. There were mentions of items and materials which I found a curious choice of words.

As it seems the landlady was aware they were looking to move out I don't think a few moving boxes and so on would have caused much concern. If she was worried they were going to do a runner and leave debts I'm not sure the police would have been terribly interested. Everything to me points to there being something in that property that gave immediate cause for concern. Given at least some personal effects were still in the property something must have caused the landlady to raise the alarm rather than just assuming they would be back later.

 

[Normal Norm]

where is the camera in the image please?

I think it is pointing at this building on Charlotte Street (link points to Google Maps).

 

[highland_clue]

First time poster.. Throughout the thread one of the key questions is why they were out at this time. There are so many reasons that would not be obvious to others.. for example how many people have been going out at what would be considered odd hours to dark areas to try to photograph the northern lights? I am not saying that is the case here but an example of a perfectly valid reason to act out of the ordinary that is not outwardly obvious. Could it be a camera bag rather than handbag? There could be so many reasons only known to them that could make cause what outwardly looks like unusual behaviour (especially if ignoring speculation based on official statement terminology).

 

[davidt]

First time poster.. Throughout the thread one of the key questions is why they were out at this time. There are so many reasons that would not be obvious to others.. for example how many people have been going out at what would be considered odd hours to dark areas to try to photograph the northern lights? I am not saying that is the case here but an example of a perfectly valid reason to act out of the ordinary that is not outwardly obvious. Could it be a camera bag rather than handbag? There could be so many reasons only known to them that could make cause what outwardly looks like unusual behaviour (especially if ignoring speculation based on official statement terminology).

Indeed, we know very little about their lifestyles day to day.

 

[Kemug]

I have been wondering if only one of the young ladies intended suicide. I believe there is quite often a "dominant" twin. (Yes, I know they're not exactly twins.) Possibly one of them regularly made all the decisions, eg moving countries, moving house. I think we have been assuming that they were always in agreement, but it may not have really been the case. Possibly a dominant sister had asked the other to take a night time walk because she "had something to talk over with her." And deliberately took them to the riverside. I leave it to your imagination from there. It would explain a few things.

 

[davidt]

I have been wondering if only one of the young ladies intended suicide. I believe there is quite often a "dominant" twin. (Yes, I know they're not exactly twins.) Possibly one of them regularly made all the decisions, eg moving countries, moving house. I think we have been assuming that they were always in agreement, but it may not have really been the case. Possibly a dominant sister had asked the other to take a night time walk because she "had something to talk over with her." And deliberately took them to the riverside. I leave it to your imagination from there. It would explain a few things.

Indeed there have been a number of very strange cases involving twins (I know this is triplets) over the years. The fact they were in their mid 30s and so far no mention of any romantic relationships is interesting.

Edit: Christine and Lea Papin was a case in point I was tying to remember and the Gibbons sisters as well.

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[Bethan]

First time poster.. Throughout the thread one of the key questions is why they were out at this time. There are so many reasons that would not be obvious to others.. for example how many people have been going out at what would be considered odd hours to dark areas to try to photograph the northern lights? I am not saying that is the case here but an example of a perfectly valid reason to act out of the ordinary that is not outwardly obvious. Could it be a camera bag rather than handbag? There could be so many reasons only known to them that could make cause what outwardly looks like unusual behaviour (especially if ignoring speculation based on official statement terminology).

Good point @highland_clue & Welcome to Websleuths!

 

[ZeroAlpha]

I agree the reporting around the tenancy situation is very vague and confusing. Some of the wording such as "indicated" could mean just about anything. Similarly the landlady visiting to make " inquiries " is also open to multiple interpretations. We've no idea really what was going on there or the relationship between them and the landlady. Also no idea at what stage the whole process was or indeed if they were definitely leaving.

I also think the police statement saying they found no specific items to indicate the ladies intended either to disappear or harm themselves to be a very narrow statement. I take it to mean they didn't find a suicide note or anything similar explictly stating what they intended to do. I'm not sure it tells us much beyond that tbh. To me it doesn't rule out the possibility they DID find specific items that raised grave concern, just that those items didn't provide anything in detail about specific plans and intentions. Certainly it appears the landlady knew something was wrong straightaway and the police also took that view. There were mentions of items and materials which I found a curious choice of words.

As it seems the landlady was aware they were looking to move out I don't think a few moving boxes and so on would have caused much concern. If she was worried they were going to do a runner and leave debts I'm not sure the police would have been terribly interested. Everything to me points to there being something in that property that gave immediate cause for concern. Given at least some personal effects were still in the property something must have caused the landlady to raise the alarm rather than just assuming they would be back later.

I agree. Something the landlady saw in the flat must have raised immediate concerns.

 

[WiseOwl]

As the sisters were going to leave their current address, i wonder where they intended to move to - stay in Aberdeen or looking to move elsewhere? Did they tell their mother this when they spoke to her on the Saturday? They would have to inform their managers at their respective work places if they were changing address so i wonder whether they mentioned this to anyone at their work places (Costa Coffee and the Hotel) that they were leaving.

I also wonder did they go to work on the Monday before they disappeared?

 

[touch]

Possibly something like medication left in the flat could indicate that they were missing. Something like insulin for a diabetic which they need to carry with them at all times. If the landlady was aware of this she would know immediately that something was wrong if they had left without the medication but it wouldn't necessarily indicate the intentions for leaving.

 

[Firstsnow4]

I have been wondering if only one of the young ladies intended suicide. I believe there is quite often a "dominant" twin. (Yes, I know they're not exactly twins.) Possibly one of them regularly made all the decisions, eg moving countries, moving house. I think we have been assuming that they were always in agreement, but it may not have really been the case. Possibly a dominant sister had asked the other to take a night time walk because she "had something to talk over with her." And deliberately took them to the riverside. I leave it to your imagination from there. It would explain a few things.

I have been following this thread but haven’t posted yet. These are my thoughts too - one of the sisters was perhaps feeling suicidal and the other tried to save her. So sad all round

 

[davidt]

As the sisters were going to leave their current address, i wonder where they intended to move to - stay in Aberdeen or looking to move elsewhere? Did they tell their mother this when they spoke to her on the Saturday? They would have to inform their managers at their respective work places if they were changing address so i wonder whether they mentioned this to anyone at their work places (Costa Coffee and the Hotel) that they were leaving.

I also wonder did they go to work on the Monday before they disappeared?

At the moment it doesn't seem very clear what the current position is. Given the tenancy leaving has been reported as "open ended" (whatever that means) they may only have just started looking for new accommodation. Also occurs to me that they were both doing what were likely to be very low paying jobs, possibly part time. Of course they may have other sources of income but those jobs wouldn't be providing much income to live on or provide much choice in finding accommodation.

 

[Kemug]

I have been following this thread but haven’t posted yet. These are my thoughts too - one of the sisters was perhaps feeling suicidal and the other tried to save her. So sad all round

I don't think that scenario quite explains the screaming though, if that is to be believed.

 

[Kemug]

At the moment it doesn't seem very clear what the current position is. Given the tenancy leaving has been reported as "open ended" (whatever that means) they may only have just started looking for new accommodation. Also occurs to me that they were both doing what were likely to be very low paying jobs, possibly part time. Of course they may have other sources of income but those jobs wouldn't be providing much income to live on or provide much choice in finding accommodation.

Still, it doesn't seem that they were evicted.

 

[Kemug]

I have found it just a little odd that not one of their family has come to Aberdeen. They may be quite poor of course, but I would have thought that family and friends between them could have funded one. I am also thinking that possibly they may have an idea as to what happened, seeing as they would know the sisters better than anyone else in the world.

 

[WiseOwl]

At the moment it doesn't seem very clear what the current position is. Given the tenancy leaving has been reported as "open ended" (whatever that means) they may only have just started looking for new accommodation. Also occurs to me that they were both doing what were likely to be very low paying jobs, possibly part time. Of course they may have other sources of income but those jobs wouldn't be providing much income to live on or provide much choice in finding accommodation.

I believe an open ended tenancy would mean there is no fixed end date, for instance a lot of landlords would want 4 weeks notice of when the tenant was due to leave, and this would be in their tenancy agreement.

It sounds like the sisters had contacted the landlady a few days before, telling her they intended to leave the property shortly. Maybe the landlady hadn't heard from them for a few days, and went round to speak to them in person to see what was happening.

 

[Kittypoo]

I have found it just a little odd that not one of their family has come to Aberdeen. They may be quite poor of course, but I would have thought that family and friends between them could have funded one. I am also thinking that possibly they may have an idea as to what happened, seeing as they would know the sisters better than anyone else in the world.

I agree I thought very odd over a week the two are missing and no sign of any family members. Maybe the family dynamics is not as harmonious as it was portrayed. After all we still don’t know why they were in Scotland if it wasn’t education, career or relationship linked (the usual reasons)
JMO

 

[WiseOwl]

Blimey, The Independent have live updates - are they expecting some news today?:

Missing Aberdeen sisters – latest: Brother of twins warns against ‘fake news’

Police Scotland continues to appeal for help finding triplets Eliza and Henrietta Huszti as family issue desperate plea saying ‘all we want is for them to be found’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[davidt]

I believe an open ended tenancy would mean there is no fixed end date, for instance a lot of landlords would want 4 weeks notice of when the tenant was due to leave, and this would be in their tenancy agreement.

It sounds like the sisters had contacted the landlady a few days before, telling her they intended to leave the property shortly. Maybe the landlady hadn't heard from them for a few days, and went round to speak to them in person to see what was happening.

Yes this is quite possible. I don't think the reports saying they had "indicated to the landlady" they would be leaving are particularly helpful. Rather an odd way of phrasing things. I do have concerns what they may have meant. Rather than moving, possibly they had already made a decision about their lives and knew they would no longer be needing accommodation? Hope I'm wrong on that one.

 

[annpats]

After all we still don’t know why they were in Scotland if it wasn’t education, career or relationship linked (the usual reasons)
JMO

I was wondering this too.
Aberdeen is an unusual place for 2 Hungarian females to come and live and work in a coffee shop/hotel.
They're not studying at a language college or training for something in the oil/shipping industries.

I Wonder where they were before Aberdeen?

We have had thousands of recent Polish immigrants in the UK in the last decade or so, Bulgarians and Romanians too although not as many. But Hungarians, is a more unusual one.

I wonder what their immigration status was, now that the UK is no longer part of the EU? I don't think you could get a permanent visa just for working in a Coffee Shop. You'd need to have more of a professional job, such as a nurse etc.

I think they may have made friends with the wrong person/people and have become caught up in something unsavoury.

MOO.