UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025.

[Binx26]

New member here! And an Aberdonian living in the city.

I've previously worked in and around the area the sisters went missing and I would say I am fairly familiar with the comings and goings in that area. The road adjacent to the river path (South Esplanade West) is notorious for drug deals and shifty vehicles hanging about at night. It's also a perfect slip road in and out of the south side of the city. The commercial premises along that way also have their fair share of break-ins. It's not somewhere you want to go walking at night and EVERYONE knows that. It's dark and uninviting. The sisters certainly did not (IMO) walk that way whilst on a leisurely stroll. It makes absolutely no sense. In my mind they took that route because it is out of sight and they did not want to be seen, for whatever reason (to meet someone, to take their lives, to hide from someone). One thing I'm unsure of is whether there are any holes in the boundary fence separating the river path from the back of the commercial premises. There are two buildings/areas on that stretch of road I think they could have quite easily jumped into a vehicle without being seen if they were able to get through gaps in the fence. That road and that area is well known by police to be dodgy.

I'm intrigued by the "items/materials" found in the flat that raised immediate concern. Strange terminology used by the presser. "Materials" makes me think of drug making/taking paraphernalia or documentation of some sort, but it could just be an awkward way of referring to clothing. I don't think their intention to leave the property is a typical sign of intending to take their own lives. If it was was their intention to take their own lives I could understand them leaving documentation laid out to be found in the flat, but surely by telling their landlord they intended to leave it would have drawn attention to something they were trying to hide (just MO).

They appeared to be dressed quite smartly on the night of their disappearance which could suggest they had been out socialising, and might also explain why they were walking at 2am (although it DOESN'T explain why they were walking in that location). If they were living a life unknown to their family they could well have been meeting someone there to buy drugs or to sell some part of themselves (sorry). The CCTV image from Charlotte Street seems to show them walking with intent and purpose, however there's no time stamp on the image so we can't be sure when it was recorded. I note they both have their hair tied up in a bun/band - I wonder if anyone who knows them might be able to suggest if that has any significance (dancing, working).

The sad thing about cases like this is they could have been extremely depressed and hidden it from everyone. If they did make a plan it's very likely only the two of them knew what

Drug risky for sure. It would be an area for addicts ‘junkies’ to hang about. That said, in these weather conditions I doubt there would be anyone hanging about nor anyone in the area generally.

It’s a bad area, not compared to some major cities but not somewhere two 30 something women would consider even close to being safe in normal weather conditions.

Yes, knowing the area both me and my husband immediately thought this would be related to drugs, or possibly prostitution. The area has a reputation, which obviously the police will be well aware of.

 

[Doric Loon]

Can I just add another reason more info may not be forthcoming from the Scottish Police on the sisters backgrounds or any social issues, if there are any, is the heavy criticism / backlash the English Police force faced after what many felt was over sharing of personal details in the Nicola Bulley case.

 

[TMich6811]

People are quick to start misremembering details.

Very early on it's said they "left their home address" and walked to the path by the river.

I don't recall anywhere any mention (officially by police) of being out socially earlier in the evening.

They were not on a night out into the late hours and walking around. They have left from their home down to the river, likely backed by CCTV the whole route.

I don’t think possible new witnesses or new information is misremembering, it’s likely something the police have not released yet or we’re unaware of at that time.

 

[davidt]

You're correct. What we don't know is what they were doing before they left their home. Had the been there all night? Had they just popped home from a night out to collect something? The CCTV from Charlotte Street doesn't match up with the walking route provided in the Sun (but who trusts the Sun anyway?!) so either the walking route is wrong or the they had been out doing something prior to being at home and were caught on CCTV on Charlotte Street and the police haven't divulged that detail yet.

The Hungarian article says two things. Firstly they had been out enjoying male company before splitting up to return home. Secondly it has the father denying they'd been to a party.

If they had been out in male company its feasible they went home and then back out again.

 

[Doric Loon]

Yes, knowing the area both me and my husband immediately thought this would be related to drugs, or possibly prostitution. The area has a reputation, which obviously the police will be well aware of.

I wouldn’t say there is any evidence of obvious prostitution in that area. Occasional homeless or drug taking yes, possibly.

 

[TMich6811]

The Hungarian article says two things. Firstly they had been out enjoying male company before splitting up to return home. Secondly it has the father denying they'd been to a party.

If they had been out in male company its feasible they went home and then back out again.

That’s interesting. It could also explain why one had a bag and the other didn’t and one had a phone and the other didn’t.

 

[lamberta]

For those of you who live in the area. Would this location be like hey we’re out and we wanna go score some substance, this is the area we would go?

Or more drug risky in that the actual dealers are in the area operating more then just a quick deal

No, you wouldn't go there to score (unless of course it was pre-arranged). I would say the comings and goings are organised and part of a larger network.
There is a large Eastern European community in Torry which made me wonder if they had been heading in that direction to meet someone they knew.
Also, possibly worth mentioning, there are a few pubs in the immediate location where the sisters went missing but I think the area would have been quite quiet at that time on a freezing cold Tuesday morning. The locals are rough in that area and the pubs are equally so.

 

[davidt]

Can I just add another reason more info may not be forthcoming from the Scottish Police on the sisters backgrounds or any social issues, if there are any, is the heavy criticism / backlash the English Police force faced after what many felt was over sharing of personal details in the Nicola Bulley case.

That's a very fair point. Police can't really win either way.

 

[Peppery]

Some questions swirling in my head…

1. How long had the ladies lived in that flat/that specific area of Aberdeen? Is it possible they were out that evening, perhaps drinking with friends and got disoriented trying to find their way home in an area they weren’t super familiar with?
2. Could they have mailed a letter to the landlady about moving out and she tried to call them with no answer, so she went round to the flat to talk to them and found something? That might be more alarming than a face to face or telephone conversation.
3. It would be nice to know what their employers think of them. Always on time and conscientious workers? Or lazy and unreliable? (No judgement from me, but if they were casual drug users, an employer might see changes in their work ethic more than family in a weekly hour long call)
4. Did either sister have a medical condition that she wears a medical alert bracelet for or does she need to always carry a medical device? Such as asthma, diabetes, anaphylactic allergy? Could that be the concerning item found at their flat?
5. Any romantic interests? Not sure why the family is (allegedly) denying them hanging out with male companions, seems quite normal for 32-year-old women to enjoy socializing or dating.

So much just doesn’t add up imo

 

[davidt]

This is the two bits fron the article.

We know the two girls had fun with an acquaintance in a men's company, and then when they left for home, they split in front of Market Street," said the Hungarian woman living in a Scottish city, Anna.

The father of the two missing girls told Blikk. Miklós Huszti said that it was a mystery to them what might have happened to Eliza and Henrietta.

"It never happened that they went to a party, or that's how the two of them started the night."

 

[Moonchild90]

Can I just add another reason more info may not be forthcoming from the Scottish Police on the sisters backgrounds or any social issues, if there are any, is the heavy criticism / backlash the English Police force faced after what many felt was over sharing of personal details in the Nicola Bulley case.

IMO they really handling it well so far

 

[Moonchild90]

That’s interesting. It could also explain why one had a bag and the other didn’t and one had a phone and the other didn’t.

IMO, if they planned DS, I think they wanted to be traced to that spot, and one took the phone with them

 

[TMich6811]

IMO they really handling it well so far

Yeah they are releasing enough to get the public amped up about finding them, whatever the reason and have released what is needed for that

 

[lamberta]

This is the two bits fron the article.

We know the two girls had fun with an acquaintance in a men's company, and then when they left for home, they split in front of Market Street," said the Hungarian woman living in a Scottish city, Anna.

The father of the two missing girls told Blikk. Miklós Huszti said that it was a mystery to them what might have happened to Eliza and Henrietta.

"It never happened that they went to a party, or that's how the two of them started the night."

There seems to be resistance to the idea that they had been partying and/or in male company. Slightly odd given their age! I read somewhere the father said they don't party or drink alcohol. I wonder if there had been previous problems with alcohol/partying/drugs and that's where his defensiveness comes from. <modsnip - speculation outside the bounds of the known facts of the case>

 

[lamberta]

IMO, if they planned DS, I think they wanted to be traced to that spot, and one took the phone with them

Yes. Also, if they have willingly gone off somewhere I wonder if they purposely dropped the phone in the river to make it look like they had gone into the water.

 

[TMich6811]

There seems to be resistance to the idea that they had been partying and/or in male company. Slightly odd given their age! I read somewhere the father said they don't party or drink alcohol. I wonder if there had been previous problems with alcohol/partying/drugs and that's where his defensiveness comes from. <modsnip - speculation outside the bounds of the known facts of the case>

Or just anything except reliable responsible and on their own. Which is either 1. True 2. Not true and they don’t want to say otherwise (for reasons as simple as to not speak bad about them) or 3. A possible reason they moved? Pressure to be this way?

 

[Grouse]

People are quick to start misremembering details.

Very early on it's said they "left their home address" and walked to the path by the river.

I don't recall anywhere any mention (officially by police) of being out socially earlier in the evening.

They were not on a night out into the late hours and walking around. They have left from their home down to the river, likely backed by CCTV the whole route.

No, it hasn't been officially released by police and it hasn't made it into the UK press, but on a post I made above, a translation from a Hungarian news website, there was a quote from a Hungarian lady who lives in Aberdeen which implied that they were out that evening and parted company with whoever they were socialising with at Market St.

Of course this may well be unreliable, but I think it's quite possible that people from the Hungarian community in the town may have contacted, or been contacted by, the Hungarian press and given information via that route. I believe this is how outfits like MailOnline operate with incidents involving Brits abroad.

 

[lamberta]

No, it hasn't been officially released by police and it hasn't made it into the UK press, but on a post I made above, a translation from a Hungarian news website, there was a quote from a Hungarian lady who lives in Aberdeen which implied that they were out that evening and parted company with whoever they were socialising with at Market St.

Of course this may well be unreliable, but I think it's quite possible that people from the Hungarian community in the town may have contacted, or been contacted by, the Hungarian press and given information via that route. I believe this is how outfits like MailOnline operate with incidents involving Brits abroad.

Maybe they didn't release CCTV from Market Street becuase it would have shown someone else with them. Police might be hoping that person comes forward without being prompted.

 

[TonnnnUK]

No, it hasn't been officially released by police and it hasn't made it into the UK press, but on a post I made above, a translation from a Hungarian news website, there was a quote from a Hungarian lady who lives in Aberdeen which implied that they were out that evening and parted company with whoever they were socialising with at Market St.
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Okay thanks. I don't really give much credence to these news websites, especially given that the one with a supposed path they took looks to be way off the supporting evidence.

Hopefully that particular article isn't a case of fishing for hits.

Of course, had they been out earlier in the evening and had been down at Market Street socialising, that does change things up a bit, as opposed to these quiet ladies who don't really go out much randomly going off for a walk at 2am.

However, hanging around with a bloke, heading to an area known for drugs and prostitution inevitably brings about the implication of being up to know good or criminality. But again, from near the very beginning the police have stressed that there's no evidence of criminality at play and its purely a missing persons case.

 

[lamberta]

Just to go back to the flat situation. So they had intended to leave their current property, but I wonder if another landlord has come forward to say the sisters intended to sign a new lease for a new property, or had been enquiring about available properties. If they gave notice to leave their current property with nowhere else lined up that's a huge risk of leaving yourself homeless, and again doesn't make sense. I hope local landlords/agents have gone back and scrutinised their enquiries. I also wonder if their phone data will reveal anything about their housing intentions.