FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #4

[SeriouslySearching]

You guys who don't see the envelope, do have DSL? or would it matter

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Mystery, nan, use this link http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kessedarkened.jpg

I don't think it would matter because if you aren't used to seeing motion blurs in photos...you would miss this. When she darkened it...it took out some of the blur around the edges which is obvious on the pant leg leaving a clearer image. When a cam takes stills every few seconds and it catches movement during a shot...you get a distinct motion blur as the camera picks up this movement.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

RD

How do you know it isn't a man who just has long hair, that is in a bun?

I hope LE has some black hair on the headrest of JK's car. that could be the thing that solves this case. DNA from hair, just could be a key, not to mention prints backing it up.

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I don't believe for a second that is hair in a bun. For starters, I would notice someone dressed this way wearing a bun. It would look very odd...considering I am back to this is definitely a man.

I hope they have hair, too. And any other bodily fluid this creep could have in or on him. Yes and prints!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

True.

Plus, why are the camera's so dark, when it is suppose to be noon?

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If it is a cam with night vision, it will look odd during the daytime pics (Darker). I would assume this camera would have that capability since like you mentioned...it would be for insurance reasons.

 

[rd_jfc]

Sorry, I thought it was cropped. I reposted cropped picture. Now it is reasonable size.

Left, take a look at the back of the head. You can see the hair tufts.

Theoretically it could be a man with long hair in a bun, but my guess this is a woman wearing man's shoes that are too large for her on purpose.

rd

 

[Beyond Belief]

First still darkened, you can see right arm back or bent, but elbow is back.
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=firststillofpoi.jpg

Also notice the white top on the shoe.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The white on the top of the shoe is his white sock. Is that what you are talking about?

I don't see tufts of hair, but what I do see is distortion from the motion blur somewhat. I can't imagine someone donning 'clown' shoes to walk away from a criminal act. I believe those shoes are fitting the large feet this guy has.

 

[rd_jfc]

Haven't people worn wrong size shoes to leave misleading footprints before?

I have to say it looks like a tufts of a hair bun to me.

rd

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Good work BB.

If he used a gun or knife for the abduction he would have those too most likely.

If this is a chef...knives are his profession. He is practiced and comfortable of his control with any knife.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Haven't people worn wrong size shoes to leave misleading footprints before?

I have to say it looks like a tufts of a hair bun to me.

rd

Yes, they have been known to use different sized shoes...but not when they are in broad daylight and don't have time on their side to get as far away...as fast as possible from the scene. The scenario you are talking about would be if a perp had plenty of time to 'stage' the area to mislead police. This guy only had what? Ten to twelve seconds? He wasn't concerned about leaving shoe prints when someone could walk out at any minute from the apartments and meet him face to face to ID him. I agree with Cat that he didn't know that area had cams til he read the sign most likely.

Then we will have to agree to disagree on this one. LOL No worries. We all have our own ideas and theories here. I say it is a knit cap with a roll.

 

[leftcoast]

Haven't people worn wrong size shoes to leave misleading footprints before?

I have to say it looks like a tufts of a hair bun to me.

rd

The smart criminals do leave false clues, such as cig. butts when they don't smoke, empty water bottles of strangers, etc.

Considering this POI has vanished, I wouldn't put anything past him or her

However, one does to wonder how it is he or she picked to park a car where security cameras are located. Maybe a last minute change?

Shoe size is not always a determinant of height. I know a guy 5"6 who wears the same size shoe as his brother who is 6"2.

SMart criminals learn every time they get arrested, and they know to leave false clues to give reasonable doubt during the trial.

I don't think JK vanishing without a trace is by accident. Whomever did this crime, is experienced, intelligent, and in my opinion planned the crime.

So, even wearing a disguise during the crime, or while dumping the car, would not be something that would terribly surprise me.

Wearing shoes that are too big could be a possibility. Until we catch this person , we wont' know. Another thought is bicycle shoes. They always seem like bozo shoes.

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[SeriouslySearching]

Didn't I read a recent article saying that Law Enforcement has DNA from the suspect from him driving Jennifer's car? The DNA doesn't match anyone in the criminal data base. If this is true, then wouldn't Law Enforcement know a few things about the suspect such as verification that the suspect is male and his blood type?

I would expect them to be able to tell those things. It is troubling to me that now I can't hardly believe anything LE says in this case. They have misled the public so much already and it has gotten them where they are today...less than nowhere! They have actually lost considerable ground from the beginning of this investigation.

 

[rd_jfc]

I didn't mean in the apartment parking lot on concrete. I meant wherever Jennifer was left.

And premeditation would be present unless someone decided to abduct Jennifer on a whim.

Also, this person looks like a man from a distance, the shoes are men's, if this was a woman dressed to look like a man it worked.

rd

 

[rd_jfc]

Left, concerning height. When I reviewed the pictures earlier I saw that it was reported that police were seen with a laser measurement tool when they were determining the height.

I also saw in the link to Greta's pictures, picture 8 IIRC, where they point up to the roof from the gate with the sign and say that is the camera where the POI was spotted.

I didn't see anything about a camera lower down in a window. That would change the angle and make for a different height.

rd

 

[leftcoast]

Left, concerning height. When I reviewed the pictures earlier I saw that it was reported that police were seen with a laser measurement tool when they were determining the height.

I also saw in the link to Greta's pictures, picture 8 IIRC, where they point up to the roof from the gate with the sign and say that is the camera where the POI was spotted.

I didn't see anything about a camera lower down in a window. That would change the angle and make for a different height.

rd

Right, there is a picture of a guy standing on a stool measuring the height of the gate with a laser gun.

I don't think they used the laser to judge height, but, I"m not sure. I think they used the rope, the female officer, and a board. Not sure why.

The camera that caught the POI walking in front of the gate is very high up in the perch of the poolhouse, just under the roof. There is picture of it in one of the fox links that Mystery gave us. I would say the perch is about 15 feet high, and the camera is at least 30 feet from the POI.

The camera that caught the POI parking the car, is much lower. I believe it is be about 8-10 feet high.

So, the higher camera which shot the POI at the gate, will make the POI seem a little shorter due to the sharp angle.

Do you want the "video link" which shows how LE measured the height.?

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ps Also, early on, I think LE asked the media not to show the other camera's at HOTG and where they were pointed. NOt sure of this, but, it is my take. LE didn't want the POI to know there was a camera pointing at the spot where he parked JK's car.

 

[CatLynnette]

left,

Please post the video link of how Law Enforcement measured the height of the suspect. Hubby and I are very eager to see this. Thanks in advance.

 

[leftcoast]

cat

OK, I need to find it. Give me a few minutes.

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[leftcoast]

left,

Please post the video link of how Law Enforcement measured the height of the suspect. Hubby and I are very eager to see this. Thanks in advance.

Here's the link. it is at the 30 second mark. You will have to freeze it, and replay it.

Notice how much lower the ground is where the POI is walking, compared to the plane of the gate. I hope this is only a way to "check" a previous method.

http://www.wftv.com/video/6885628/detail.html

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[rd_jfc]

I don't know. I looked at it twice and didn't see what they were aiming at.

I agree with catLynette that the angle doesn't look steep enough to be from the roof camera that Greta's Fox picture shows, and a lower angle would make for a different height, but that's what the Fox picture caption said.

So like the videos, clear as mud.

rd

 

[CatLynnette]

Here's the link. it is at the 30 second mark. You will have to freeze it, and replay it to enjoy the madness of the method.

Notice how much lower the ground is where the POI is walking, compared to the plane of the gate. I hope this is only a way to "check" a previous method.

http://www.wftv.com/video/6885628/detail.html

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Thank you so very, very much. Very interesting. My hubby's comment while watching the video is that perhaps Law Enforcement should have chosen a point on the gate such as the upper horizontal cross bar of the gate to use with the model to determine height. A stationary object such as a particular point on the gate would be a good marker for comparison.

In the video notice how much lower the top of the model's head is compared to the upper horizontal cross bar on the gate. Look again at the photos of the suspect at the gate and where the top of his head is at for comparison. Keep in mind that the angle of the camera would have made the suspect appear shorter, not taller. Hubby and I think that there is too much room for error in the method that Law Enforcement used for determining the height of the suspect as shown in this video.

We still believe that the suspect is taller than the estimate of height given by Law Enforcement.

Just our opinion only

 

[philamena]

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,817,00.html#9_0

The picture at the above link shows Jennifer's work clothes laying across the chair next to the bed. Didn't Jennifer's mom say she was pretty certain that Jennifer dressed for work that morning?

After looking at the above picture, Jennifer never dressed for work on Monday right?

Did she in fact disappear that night before going to bed? She didn't call her boyfriend the morning she disappeared and that was out of character for her too.
Is there any proof of the date that her brother's friend's phone was mailed?