FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #14

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Not my own logic, just something I saw somewhere that made sense to me:

The images go back only to when Madeline was eight years old. But no one begins their abuse with taking pictures or videos. Which suggests that the abuse began long before she was eight.

Justice for Maddie
interesting thought. Even LE said they only have photos (evidence) that go back as far as the Cloud — lead officer makes it sound like they would consider it was happening even earlier but the photo evidence starts with the Cloud.

 
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He is confusing sometimes, he said " I wish I would have just went down and called 911" His dad questioned SS to get clarification, and asked "well where was Maddie?" SS said "Upstairs."
So when he said I wish I would have just gone downstairs and called 911, what did he need to go downstairs for? Couldn't he use the cell that he was texting Jenn from about Maddie being in her nest at 1130 pm? Oh wait maybe when he left the room twice, he left his cell downstairs.:rolleyes:
I know it probably means nothing but he needs to get his story straight his little slips will cause him problems.
He is his own worst enemy.
Interesting question @ttjo …. Maybe SS was aware he best not place a call from the phone or device from which he had recorded events? If it is known what phone or computer he had used then? And wasn’t there some indication that he had both his father’s phone and car that weekend? SMH.

It is IMO hard to absolve anyone in poor dear MS orbit. SS, JS, and his parents. And let’s not forget IMO all those oddities about the father IIRC once SS was arrested - the storage locker, computer tower, associated hard drive(s) and all those odd phone conversations when SS was in jail I believe?

Still astounded that no further charges have been laid. And I hope that other charges are coming. And before any statute of limitations run. Maybe authorities are waiting to see how the first trial goes. And I sure hope the prosecution doesn’t make a deal with JS. IMO not needed. Not at all. IMO they need only look to what happened in Canada with Karla Homolka? For some odd reason, have to wonder if something similar might occur in this case? SMH. MOO
 
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The latest is that he " discovered " her. that he wasn't in the room the whole night, left once to go to the bathroom and another time for a couple of hours, he found her at dawn. blue lips, pale skin.

"There is no one to blame and in his opinion, it was an accident".
SBMFF

Put aside for a minute what her autopsy said about her being strangled. OK, so he left for a few hours and came back at dawn to find her with blue lips and pale skin. What about that is "an accident"??? What is he thinking cuz it's something since he knows those calls are recorded and listened to. What could he be trying to get LE to believe was an accident? (again, pretend you don't know about her being strangled). She ODed on something?

None of that makes sense. lol
 
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Court TV has some footage of SS in court this morning so I guess he didn’t get his way with preventing media from being present! LOL.

His hair is almost a buzz cut, his beard has grayed, and unlike Kohberger, SS is in an orange jumpsuit (hats off to Florida).

His beard has been gray for a very long time (see his younger pic from LinkedIn when he was in RE). Way before being arrested.

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SBMFF

Put aside for a minute what her autopsy said about her being strangled. OK, so he left for a few hours and came back at dawn to find her with blue lips and pale skin. What about that is "an accident"??? What is he thinking cuz it's something since he knows those calls are recorded and listened to. What could he be trying to get LE to believe was an accident? (again, pretend you don't know about her being strangled). She ODed on something?

None of that makes sense. lol
Yes, but I think since he admittedly gave her the nighttime meds (in whatever quantity), even IF overdose was somehow plausible as a cause, he still would have been culpable for the "accident." I wouldn't put it past him to try to claim that as his defense for that case. But he didn't say natural causes nor imply she somehow took her own life. Accident is "too much meds" or "fell downstairs" (don't give him any ideas at this point, right). :( It's a specific act/event, I guess is what I'm trying to say. So, still his fault, even in the most BS-iest of attempted excuses laid out.
 
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He is confusing sometimes, he said " I wish I would have just went down and called 911" His dad questioned SS to get clarification, and asked "well where was Maddie?" SS said "Upstairs."
So when he said I wish I would have just gone downstairs and called 911, what did he need to go downstairs for? Couldn't he use the cell that he was texting Jenn from about Maddie being in her nest at 1130 pm? Oh wait maybe when he left the room twice, he left his cell downstairs.:rolleyes:
I know it probably means nothing but he needs to get his story straight his little slips will cause him problems.
He is his own worst enemy.
Went down and called 911? He had cell phone in room #4 with him. I know he didn't leave his cell phone downstairs when he went do to use the bathroom or whatever it is he was pretending to do while Maddie was getting cold to the touch. What is dude talking about?!?
 
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Not my own logic, just something I saw somewhere that made sense to me:

The images go back only to when Madeline was eight years old. But no one begins their abuse with taking pictures or videos. Which suggests that the abuse began long before she was eight.

Justice for Maddie
I believe the abuse started when she was 8 yrs old, shortly after him moving in. I also believe he most definitely wanted her first time doing anything sexual (his penis in her mouth) captured so he can either rewatch it, and/or share it with others like him on the dark web. JMO!

This was the start (8 yrs old):

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SBMFF

Put aside for a minute what her autopsy said about her being strangled. OK, so he left for a few hours and came back at dawn to find her with blue lips and pale skin. What about that is "an accident"??? What is he thinking cuz it's something since he knows those calls are recorded and listened to. What could he be trying to get LE to believe was an accident? (again, pretend you don't know about her being strangled). She ODed on something?

None of that makes sense. lol
I know, thats why I asked "What made him think an accident happened?" I can speak from experience, coming across a deceased person, I didn't think about what happened, I called 911 immediately. In that moment I was not concerned about anything other than getting help,
He did not call 911 and chose to dispose of a body, he wants people to think he did that because...? it was an accident? Get real.
But even In june when he is speaking with his dad from Jail., he still says " he believes it was an accident" at that point I believe he has read the autopsy report and knows how she died. It's literally the first line in an autopsy report.
But think's he's fooling people into thinking he doesn't even know the real cause of death.
More games.
 
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Heaven? SERIOUSLY?!?!? He thinks he's going to HEAVEN?!?
Yes must be all that peace and serenity he said he's been feeling,
The guy is cracked.
 
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I believe the abuse started when she was 8 yrs old, shortly after him moving in. I also believe he most definitely wanted her first time doing anything sexual (his penis in her mouth) captured so he can either rewatch it, and/or share it with others like him on the dark web. JMO!

This was the start (8 yrs old):

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With the greatest of respect, an environmental predator like this is unlikely to have 'started' with oral rape that he's videoing. There would have been a long period of escalating abuse before getting to this level. He would have had to have conditioned her to the point that he felt comfortable abusing her in this way, to this degree, without feeling like there would be negative consequences from it, like her disclosing.

MOO
 
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Yes must be all that peace and serenity he said he's been feeling,
The guy is cracked.

What I hear in those recordings is a master manipulator. He knows his mother will be relieved that he's established a relationship with God, so that's what he claims to have done even though it has no basis in reality IMO. He's telling her what she wants to hear.

I find it really amazing that these parents are talking to him so casually, as if his abuse of Maddie was no big deal.
 
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I know, thats why I asked "What made him think an accident happened?" I can speak from experience, coming across a deceased person, I didn't think about what happened, I called 911 immediately. In that moment I was not concerned about anything other than getting help,
He did not call 911 and chose to dispose of a body, he wants people to think he did that because...? it was an accident? Get real.
But even In june when he is speaking with his dad from Jail., he still says " he believes it was an accident" at that point I believe he has read the autopsy report and knows how she died. It's literally the first line in an autopsy report.
But think's he's fooling people into thinking he doesn't even know the real cause of death.
More games.
Does this open up a plan by SS to insert the possibility that JS came in and caused her death?
 
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Does this open up a plan by SS to insert the possibility that JS came in and caused her death?
That was my first thought, but after his father heard SS say "I discovered her at dawn, blue lips, pale skin, " his father talked about "anyone who had any involvement should be held accountable " ( paraphrasing) SS shut that down by saying, don't get your hopes up with any conspiracy theories"
he said " Jenn was hurting too in her own way", he also waved off the roommates having any involvement"
So when SS says " I think it was an accident," what kind of an accident? if you weren't there and Jenn wasn't there, what kind of ": accident could it be"
medication ??? was this before or after he read the autopsy report?
I just don't put it past him to say " it was an accident" and hope people think he doesn't even know how she died ( reasonable doubt) and play off of all the talk about Jenn's potential involvement all over social media.
They have a video for EVERYTHING, EXCEPT for her death. So Maybe they're playing that angle?

For me he is a seed planter and the more I listen to him , the more " groomy' he sounds. I felt like he was telling his parents what he thought they wanted to hear, to remain supportive of him.

'The first thing he did was turn to god "( his mom mentions god a lot.)
He will stick with saltines, hard candies, and coffee because it gives him a bigger bang for his buck, ( he's not taking advantage) but it's hard to have just one a day" hint hint
something about letting down the people that counted on him to do better"
There were more tiny little comments that to me felt "groomy"
Talked about how he will die in prison with no one to care for him or care to even hear he died:

Let's face it, he does not have anyone else to buy him root beer barrels, send books or top up the commissary, so he's keeping them invested.
Not saying its the only reason I am sure he is lonely and loves his parents, but he sounds like a scared little boy now. A scared little boy who manipulates to get his way,.
 
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That was my first thought, but after his father heard SS say "I discovered her at dawn, blue lips, pale skin, " his father talked about "anyone who had any involvement should be held accountable " ( paraphrasing) SS shut that down by saying, don't get your hopes up with any conspiracy theories"
he said " Jenn was hurting too in her own way", he also waved off the roommates having any involvement"
So when SS says " I think it was an accident," what kind of an accident? if you weren't there and Jenn wasn't there, what kind of ": accident could it be"
medication ??? was this before or after he read the autopsy report?
I just don't put it past him to say " it was an accident" and have people think he doesn't even know how she died ( reasonable doubt) not to mention all the talk about Jenn's potential involvement all over social media.

They have a video for EVERYTHING, EXCEPT for her death. So Maybe they're playing that angle?
Do we really know if they don't have a video of her death? While I could be wrong about this... I've often wondered if he filmed her death, either accidentally (he was filming sex with her as per usual, and whatever 'happened' happened and it got caught on tape, OR purposely decided to make a snuff film). Keep in mind his timing of logging into Telegram where that sort of uckiness is traded/viewed. Also keep in mind he liked little girls and Maddie was blossoming into a young woman so her 'usefulness' was no longer.
Let's face it, he does not have anyone else to buy him root beer barrels, send books or top up the commissary, so he's keeping them invested.
He's a user through and through. He takes what he wants, when he wants it (sex from little girls, sneaking pictures of women when they aren't aware they are being filmed), etc.
Not saying its the only reason I am sure he is lonely and loves his parents, but he sounds like a scared little boy now. A scared little boy who manipulates to get his way,.
I'm going to venture a guess that he doesn't actually love his parents. He definitely LIKES that they give him things, and that they are there to support and help him, but I think that's part of his User personality. He's using them for what he can get from them, but I'm not sure he loves them.

JMO!
 
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I'm going to venture a guess that he doesn't actually love his parents. He definitely LIKES that they give him things, and are there to support and help him, but I think that's part of his User personality. He's using them for what he can get from them, but I'm not sure he loves them.

JMO!
you could be right, He seems to be the kind of person that has little empathy, who doesn't even consider how someone else feels. it doesn't even factor in. it's all about his needs. He also doesn't consider accountabulty, probably never had to be accountable before. so when he is he acts like the victim.
Hes not normal, who takes pictures of your roommates under the door when they are undressed? and who has 3500 pics of children doing god knows what on your phone???
and what kind of sleepy GF doesn't have a clue??


I get the impression he was a whiney little boy who got everything to just to keep him quiet. Maybe that's where he learned to be a taker.
 
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