FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST*

[CSIDreamer]

The pages are embedded as images, and I cannot download the report as such.

Admin is welcome to remove my references to the material I have read although it is commonly known that the COD has not been established.

ETA: No cause of death yet in Todt case

Well this is behind a paywall. We need the images. With original source.

 

[Niner]

I’m getting an error when trying to launch from this link. Any thoughts? It says something about bad credentials.

Try starting here:

https://www.osceolaclerk.com/(X(1)S...-online-records?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

 

[Nikynoo]

My understanding is that both the prelim autopsy reports and arrest affadavit have been released to the media. Do we have copies here? I cannot find any attached to any news reports. TIA!

 

[Nikynoo]

He was probably in a cage for his own protection. Even creepy felons don't look kindly on child killers. Jmo

I think it more likely that the reason he is in the cage is that he is considered a risk to himself. I also think that the reason his attorney requested that the charges were not read out is because of the threats AT has made to harm himself.

This is a good msm - it has a timeline - Arrest Warrant, Autopsy Reports Offer New Details in Deaths of Todt Family

 

[Nikynoo]

They probably had only a Month to month
lease agreement. I believe in Florida landlord must only give a 2 week notice if on mo. to mo.
So he knew his time in the home was very limited and this would fit with when our local news believed the killings happened, around the end of December.

this msm states it was an annual lease - Arrest Warrant, Autopsy Reports Offer New Details in Deaths of Todt Family

 

[Nikynoo]

They didn't mention stangulation just stabbing so why is anyone questioning that he stabbed them when they were bloating? How else could they have died!?

the prelim autopsy does not give a cause of death. I agree with the bloating theory for the following reasons:
1. injury to child A was not apparent until moving the body;
2. if death by stabbing, there would have been an awful lot of blood and this is not mentioned in any msm that I have seen; and
3. cause of death has not been stated.

IMO and all that.

 

[CSIDreamer]

My understanding is that both the prelim autopsy reports and arrest affadavit have been repleased to the media. Do we have copies here? I cannot find any attached to any news reports. TIA!

I cant either. Jmo

There was something posted upthread about arrests.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I did a search of true crime society mentions on WS and it looks like it's ok to link in this thread. The preliminary reports are way down in the link.


True Crime Society - Missing Todt family found dead, father in custody.

ETA self reported for clarification.

 

[Jamie737]

Well now that everybody has found the embedded images, it should be pretty clear that these were superficial stab wounds that did not even breach the abdominal wall. So, they are, in my opinion, a form of staging.

There is also no hemorrhage or injury to neck structures or nasal or mouth soft tissue, so smothering and strangulation appear ruled out.

Which brings one back to poisoning.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Well now that everybody has found the embedded images, it should be pretty clear that these were superficial stab wounds that did not even breach the abdominal wall. So, they are, in my opinion, a form of staging.

There is also no hemorrhage or injury to neck structures or nasal or mouth soft tissue, so smothering and strangulation appear ruled out.

Which brings one back to poisoning.

We aren't all doctors, lol. How thick approximately is the abdominal wall where they were stabbed?

 

[Nikynoo]

Well now that everybody has found the embedded images, it should be pretty clear that these were superficial stab wounds that did not even breach the abdominal wall. So, they are, in my opinion, a form of staging.

There is also no hemorrhage or injury to neck structures or nasal or mouth soft tissue, so smothering and strangulation appear ruled out.

Which brings one back to poisoning.

also, no mention of blood at the crime scene. Unless of course, they were killed elsewhere...................

 

[Jamie737]

also, no mention of blood at the crime scene. Unless of course, they were killed elsewhere...................

I don't see reference to pale tissues which I expect with large blood loss

 

[Jamie737]

We aren't all doctors, lol. How thick approximately is the abdominal wall where they were stabbed?

Actually quite thin, less than an inch

 

[Nikynoo]

I don't see reference to pale tissues which I expect with large blood loss

Could this mean that the stab wounds are post mortem?

 

[kay74]

the prelim autopsy does not give a cause of death. I agree with the bloating theory for the following reasons:
1. injury to child A was not apparent until moving the body;
2. if death by stabbing, there would have been an awful lot of blood and this is not mentioned in any msm that I have seen; and
3. cause of death has not been stated.

IMO and all that.

Then how did they die???

 

[CSIDreamer]

I don't see reference to pale tissues which I expect with large blood loss

Does decomp affect that?

 

[kay74]

Does decomp affect that?

And they have been dead anywhere from 3 to 4 weeks, long time.

 

[Nikynoo]

Then how did they die???

we do not know yet. msm states that they are awaiting further results. I would have thought that it death was caused by stab wounds, the cause of death would not be pending?

 

[Jamie737]

Does decomp affect that?

Not really. They note that organs are decomposing. You can still usually tell if the tissues were bled out.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Not really. They note that organs are decomposing. You can still usually tell if the tissues were bled out.

I have to ask. Are you a medical examiner? It would be super awesome if you get verified. We could use all the verified pros possible.