FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST*

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  • #861
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Wow, yeah there are clearly large red bruises all over both hands and a band aid on at least the right hand. This is in first photo where cops are taking him away from house. He really must have struggled or fought with something or someone to have those on the backs of his hands.
 
  • #862
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She was a beautiful young girl. They look so happy here.
 
  • #863
That's what I think.... and it didn't work, or didn't work fast enough, so he went with a quicker method.


What does "mummified" mean in reference to a recent-ish death. I only know about Egyptian mummies, Peruvian sacrifices, creepy saints' bones in Canterbury Cathedral's crypt, and Ötzi.
The mummified has me stumped - if they had no power- the house here in FL IMO is not dry - it’s so humid even in the winter so what conditions could lead to this ? Mom was tiny - I wonder if she had health issues? This one is baffling especially since how they were found (not In pajamas) patiently awaiting the results
JMO
 
  • #864
Looks like he hit or banged into something hard. Maybe moving things around like mattresses etc. hit a wall or something. No, I don’t think he ingested rat poison or anything else.
I’ve seen knuckles like that before - came from balled fists banging into a wall over and over again
JMO
 
  • #865
I just posted this to the media thread and reading back over this timeline it’s really so sad how this unfolded

Todt family murders: New records detail weeks before bodies found in Celebration home
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For more than two weeks, family, friends, federal agents and Osceola County deputies tried to solve the Todt family’s disappearance, before a search of their Celebration home Jan. 13 found the blanket-wrapped bodies of Megan Todt and her three kids.

Reports and recorded phone calls released Friday by the Osceola County Sheriff’s Office reveal in new detail how concern about the Todts built as time passed and contact with the family diminished to nothing. The records include a more-detailed account of the grim discovery on Reserve Place.

Authorities say Anthony Todt, 44, confessed to killing 42-year-old Megan Todt and their three children: Alek, 13; Tyler, 11; and Zoe, 4, OCSO officials have said. He is currently in jail, held without bail on four counts of first-degree murder. He is also facing an animal cruelty charge for killing the family dog, Breezy.

Combined with previously released documents, the new records establish a clearer timeline of the search for the Todts...
 
  • #866
What do the lawyers or the regulars on this site think about whether or not we will ever know the truth in this case? If he confessed and there is no trial, and if he never tells what really happened, will we ever know? What about any secrets he was hiding? Even if he doesn’t divulge them might the cops release that info to the public? I have a feeling there is a lot we don’t know. Some possibilities imo might be

1. A history of mental illness / personality disorder /psychotropic medication

2. Gf or bf, in either CT, FL or internet (other state or country)

3. Some addiction like drugs, gambling, etc.

3. Someone blackmailing him (for some illicit activity like sex, drugs, insurance fraud, gambling, etc)

4. Paranoia, delusional or magical thinking regarding his wife/ kids or both.

5. Involvement with mob, gang, or illegally high interest shark that threaten families for nonpayment

6. Secret desire or plan to “runaway” escape, start new life, maybe even fake his own death, assume new ID

Any other ideas?


PT clinics have of late become targets of blackmail as a lot of “in pain” drug seekers use them to try to obtain painkillers. Motorcycle gangs n others strong-arm Drs n clinic owners to obtained these drugs for sale on the street. They will get them by whatever means necessary including blackmail. It’s a common problem in US right now. Many Drs affiliated with PT clinics are in jail bc of it.
 
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  • #867
I don’t think physical therapists can prescribe painkillers.
 
  • #868
What do the lawyers or the regulars on this site think about whether or not we will ever know the truth in this case? If he confessed and there is no trial, and if he never tells what really happened, will we ever know? What about any secrets he was hiding? Even if he doesn’t divulge them might the cops release that info to the public? I have a feeling there is a lot we don’t know. Some possibilities imo might be

1. A history of mental illness / personality disorder /psychotropic medication

2. Gf or bf, in either CT, FL or internet (other state or country)

3. Some addiction like drugs, gambling, etc.

3. Someone blackmailing him (for some illicit activity like sex, drugs, insurance fraud, gambling, etc)

4. Paranoia, delusional or magical thinking regarding his wife/ kids or both.

5. Involvement with mob, gang, or illegally high interest shark that threaten families for nonpayment

6. Secret desire or plan to “runaway” escape, start new life, maybe even fake his own death, assume new ID

Any other ideas?

PT clinics have of late become targets of blackmail as a lot of “in pain” drug seekers use them to try to obtain painkillers. Motorcycle gangs n others strong-arm Drs n clinic owners to obtained these drugs for sale on the street. They will get them by whatever means necessary including blackmail. It’s a common problem in US right now. Many Drs affiliated with PT clinics are in jail bc of it.

I'm an old regular and am mostly just following right now. I'm not a mental health professional, but my thoughts he might be somewhere in the Cluster B spectrum. That is JMO. I say this because of the financial messes, the fraud and the murders. As to whether any other messes existed? No clue yet. Not enough info.
 
  • #869
Just read a psychologist’s analysis of C Watts and I wonder if that’s the case here. She said psychopaths n narcissists work extra hard to make people like them, coming across as very friendly, compliment, agreeable, etc., until they aren’t. That was CW to a T, in family videos anyway, right until the very end. He was basically her “yes man” in every video I saw and from every account. That has to send of all kinds of red flags up to anyone who knows anything about human nature. When I saw those Watts family videos I knew he was a fake, and suspected he most likely harbored a lot of hatred for her, even as he was basically kissing her proverbial a* despite any insults or disrespect she would throw his way. Even when he found out she was pregnant he was nice to her and appeared happy even tho we all knew he was having an affair and wanted her dead. Good actor. She never knew what hit her. I wonder if the same isn’t true here. Maybe a compliment and agreeable guy, friendly to all who knew him, but one who harbored hatred or resentment for his family for whatever reason. Smart people will never trust anyone, including their own spouse, as familiarity can and often does breed contempt, and because all people are capable of anything. Psychopaths however bank on the trusting nature of people unaware of this fact.
 
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I don’t think physical therapists can prescribe painkillers.
They can’t, but most PT clinics have physicians employed there, as did his. I read about a case recently where a female physician and her PT clinic owner husband were involved in this exact drug ring scheme with some gang. Drug seekers will go anywhere to try and get drugs. PT clinics are full of people in “pain.” They also see them as easy marks. I don’t think that’s the case here, just entertaining theories.
 
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Jan. 6: Last communication

A family member received a text from Anthony Todt’s phone that day saying the device had been found at a Starbucks in Sarasota and it would be turned over to police. The records don’t make clear who sent that message.


Who or What was in Sarasota!?!? Why the h was his cell phone there, much less LEFT there!? And what was he doing there? And when did he go, before or after he killed them? That’s 2 hours away from Celebration ! Something’s up. No wonder he wants everything sealed. Just like CW did.
 
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Stress affects people with PTSD more acutely and critically than the average person. Maybe due to his traumatic childhood, he had no chance of succeeding as a business owner with the added burden of being the sole provider for a large family. Once they start sinking, drowning isn’t usually far behind. Their thinking gets clouded, they lose focus and can easily become overwhelmed. Maybe that’s the case here. But I still think there’s more to it.
 
  • #873
I'm not even sure he can be classified as a psychopath, but I'm definitely not a psychiatrist.

From what we've seen of his lifestyle and illegal activity, plus he knew he was going down, I wonder if depression played a part. I think he had a prideful meltdown of biblical proportions. Jmo.

Does depression cause someone to murder their wife, children and the family dog? I am not a mental professional either, but he didn't kill himself. He was apparently was living in that house for weeks with their bodies and his house was under surveillance by the feds and local LE and they had an arrest warrant for the fraud. They witnessed him walking into the house. Where had he been? Perhaps he went through a drive thru to get himself some food? IDK.

LE calls for back up and had to wait for that, and then AT wouldn't answer the door. They knew he was inside, but he left the door unlocked. They entered and he's apparently at the top of the stairs and LE can spell decomposition and asks him where his wife and children were. He said he thought Megan was sleeping and the kids might be at a sleepover. WTH. AT starts shaking and can hardly stand and he made some remarks and told him he took some pills. Benadryl. A little too late and a little too lame to be a genuine suicide attempt, IMO.

I guess what I'm trying to say is depression may have been at play, but I think there was something that was very wrong going on with AT, and for a very long time. He was unable to function as a normal adult and make good, sound decisions. But he apparently was able to put on a very good act. I've never seen such a convoluted financial mess . Years ago, he started committing fraud. My thoughts are he doesn't seem to really get consequences until they are breathing down the back of his neck and then he gets desperate and does one bad (and stupid) thing after another and each it time it's worse.

IDK. As I said - I'm not a mental health professional but this is absolutely bizarre. I think we will learn even more bizarre things as more information becomes available.
 
  • #874
Stress affects people with PTSD more acutely and critically than the average person. Maybe due to his traumatic childhood, he had no chance of succeeding as a business owner with the added burden of being the sole provider for a large family. Once they start sinking, drowning isn’t usually far behind. Their thinking gets clouded, they lose focus and can easily become overwhelmed. Maybe that’s the case here. But I still think there’s more to it.

I don't know, but was it ever a good idea for him to have his family in Florida and he commuted to run his business in CT. He was likely in the office less hours a week due to the commute and and suffered a loss of income because he had less time to actually work on patients and to be able to legitimately bill for his services. The travel expenses had to be huge. He rents out a nearly $5,000 rental home in May 2019. Doesn't sell or rent out his condo that it mortgaged. He had two PT offices. Grandiose thinking and/or a sense of entitlement? I think it would take a lot of entitlement to commit fraud because HE was having financial problems. And it doesn't appear he was trying to come up with a permanent fix when had so many options, before going down the fraud route. JMO
 
  • #875
Does depression cause someone to murder their wife, children and the family dog? I am not a mental professional either, but he didn't kill himself. He was apparently was living in that house for weeks with their bodies and his house was under surveillance by the feds and local LE and they had an arrest warrant for the fraud. They witnessed him walking into the house. Where had he been? Perhaps he went through a drive thru to get himself some food? IDK.

LE calls for back up and had to wait for that, and then AT wouldn't answer the door. They knew he was inside, but he left the door unlocked. They entered and he's apparently at the top of the stairs and LE can spell decomposition and asks him where his wife and children were. He said he thought Megan was sleeping and the kids might be at a sleepover. WTH. AT starts shaking and can hardly stand and he made some remarks and told him he took some pills. Benadryl. A little too late and a little too lame to be a genuine suicide attempt, IMO.

I guess what I'm trying to say is depression may have been at play, but I think there was something that was very wrong going on with AT, and for a very long time. He was unable to function as a normal adult and make good, sound decisions. But he apparently was able to put on a very good act. I've never seen such a convoluted financial mess . Years ago, he started committing fraud. My thoughts are he doesn't seem to really get consequences until they are breathing down the back of his neck and then he gets desperate and does one bad (and stupid) thing after another and each it time it's worse.

IDK. As I said - I'm not a mental health professional but this is absolutely bizarre. I think we will learn even more bizarre things as more information becomes available.

Great post. They said he looked shaky when they entered house, but he didn’t look at all shaky as they escorted him to the patrol car. Good actor.
 
  • #876
Maybe he thinks since he killed them in Fl and confessed he’ll be put to death and let the law deal with his “death.” He did confess after all, although it took weeks. Maybe he just wanted to prolong the inevitable - jail and or execution. Whatever the reason was for killing his whole family must have been worth the price he’ll pay for life behind bars or death. He’s probably hoping for death. And maybe his own fathers time behind bars told him that in American jails they treat you humanely so it might not be as bad as living with all of that debt in a homeless shelter. He could have just done time for the fraud, but not in solitary with the hope of execution. Maybe that’s why he committed murder bc the thought of jail time in general population was too scary.
 
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Jan. 6: Last communication

A family member received a text from Anthony Todt’s phone that day saying the device had been found at a Starbucks in Sarasota and it would be turned over to police. The records don’t make clear who sent that message.


Who or What was in Sarasota!?!? Why the h was his cell phone there, much less LEFT there!? And what was he doing there? And when did he go, before or after he killed them? That’s 2 hours away from Celebration ! Something’s up. No wonder he wants everything sealed. Just like CW did.
Maybe he threw it away there because he didn’t want anyone to read his texts or web searches, wrongly thinking LE couldn’t access them. How was the person who found it able to text his sister. It must not have had a passcode, which is very odd. And how did he get back home 2 hours away without noticing it missing!? Didn’t use GPS at all? I use mine to check for fastest routes. Must have been someplace he’s been many times and knows the route well. Was he meeting someone at Starbucks? A common meetup place.
 
  • #878
The mummified has me stumped - if they had no power- the house here in FL IMO is not dry - it’s so humid even in the winter so what conditions could lead to this ? Mom was tiny - I wonder if she had health issues? This one is baffling especially since how they were found (not In pajamas) patiently awaiting the results
JMO

I wonder if he stored the bodies somewhere else and brought them back. A cooled storage unit would account for some of what is described.
 
  • #879
I wonder if he stored the bodies somewhere else and brought them back. A cooled storage unit would account for some of what is described.

I don’t think so. They neighbors would have seen him hauling bodies. Not even sure they had a garage. And cops said his car was parked in lot 11, near his other condo but not at it, not even at the house. Too much hassle. What would be the point.
 
  • #880
Well, that's interesting. I can't imagine why he would be a lower suicide risk in a cage than sitting on a bench like the other fellas. I've seen before where prisoners wear those weird straight jackets at arraignments.
Well, my thinking was that he could incite the other guys to hurt him, or may make a run for it so someone would shoot him? Alternatively, he could be in the cage because of the crimes he's been charged with. Hopefully, there were not too many on the bench that day who had admitted to killing three people and a dog.
 
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