France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #2

[CARIIS]

:laughing: Good Morning Cariis

Hi my Trigger--in 3 days using that word could cause a NSA breakdown on its system

Hi MOm

 

[Momoffourboys]

Beyond disturbing.

ISIS School Teaches Children Jihad in Afghanistan

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U2tT_3dsgKA

 

[cottonweaver]

France is doing very good so far in rooting out some of the people involved.

I heard on the TV news (sorry no link) that France officials used the Cell Phone they found at the other killings and was able to get GPS information to locate the apartment yesterday where the latest raid was.

It is great news that France is doing well to find some of them. What is scary is if that Cell Phone was not found then would they have ever found this apartment.

The other thing that is so upsetting is the whole "suicide bombing mentality" of ISIS. It is mind boggling how some people will kill themselves to kill others.

Sick minded lost souls.

I think the only good news I can think of is that most of the ISIS are not stupid enough to kill themselves. They probably are asked to be a suicide bomber and think to themselves.
Uhhhhhhh What? No way man. Go ask Billy Bob and he may do it.

Even some of their own leaders are all talk when it comes to dying for the cause. How come it just so happens some of them did not explode their vests. Maybe they really never were going to do it and fooled the others. The girlfriend didn't even do it until the police knocking on her door.

Its a fallacy and hopefully some of them will start to realize it.

:goodpost:
With all the defections and the Russians & French pounding them, I can't imagine there's that many "BillyBob's" left over in ISIS territories. (That made me laugh Hatfield)

My worry is that even with some promising results over there in Syria- what about the other territories they are working in - we are hardly going to start military assaults in other sovereign nations.
Then the worst of all, with so many returned fighters in Europe & the West - how are we going to ever neutralise the danger here? And this seems to be a generational disease - going to take decades to eradicate, if ever.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hi my Trigger--in 3 days using that word could cause a NSA breakdown on its system

Hi MOm

Good Morning, Cariis! Hope you got some sleep. The world has gone mad. Again.

 

[cottonweaver]

How Islamic State Teaches Tech Savvy to Evade Detection- WSJ

For more than a year, governments in Europe have pushed for companies such as Google, Facebook and Twitter to build “back doors” that allow law enforcement access into their encrypted tools.

Tech companies and security experts have resisted that push, which gained steam in Europe following the January attacks in Paris against the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

Security experts say inserting back doors would weaken the encryption and undermine trust in the Internet.

Islamic State is among the most technologically sophisticated extremist groups. Its advice to followers includes an eight-minute video released last year in Arabic that discusses the surveillance capabilities of hostile governments and how phones can be tracked. Bulletins also include advice about brands of electronic equipment that appear vulnerable

http://www.wsj.com/articles/islamic-state-teaches-tech-savvy-1447720824

 

[cottonweaver]

Second full page ad from British Muslims, this week, condemning the attacks.

Full page @Telegraph ad from hundreds of Muslim orgs condemning #Paris attacks

Daily Telegraph Twitter

 

[cottonweaver]

Terror cell was targeting La Défense and Roissy Charles de Gaulle airport
French TV station France 2 is reporting that the terror cell that was raided in Saint-Denis this morning was preparing imminent attacks on Roissy Charles de Gaulle airport and the city's commercial district in La Défense.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news

 

[cottonweaver]

Raid tallies overall - last night in France

New raids resulted in 25 arrests
Overnight raids by French police across France have resulted in 25 arrests and the seizure of 34 weapons.
The new tally was announced today by the Interior Ministry.
The arrests are the latest in a nationwide police dragnet that has seen nightly raids by security forces under powers granted by the state of emergency declared after last week's attacks in Paris
In all, French police have carried out 414 raids and made 60 arrests while seizing 75 weapons since Friday.
The captured armory includes 11 military-style firearms, 33 rifles and 31 handguns. In addition to dozens of arrests, 118 more people have been placed under house arrest in another of the new powers permitted under France's state of emergency

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Will be interested to hear about the conviction rate

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...id-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-bombing-live.html

 

[cottonweaver]

identity of the likely second suspect on the run - as yet unconfirmed though- Belgian press

The third man in the car may be Youssef Bazarouj, whose brother Mohamed's house was raided on Monday by police in the Molenbeek area of Brussels hunting for Salah Abdelslam, who is a close friend of Mohamed, according to Sudpresse Belgian media group.
The paper said that an unnamed "reliable source" reported that Youssef Bazarouj had been seen on the streets of Molenbeek on June 29 brandishing a Kalashnikov.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...id-Molenbeek-suspects-Syria-bombing-live.html

 

[cottonweaver]

most wanted suspected - Salah Abdeslam - APB sent to Spain also

A Spanish security official has said French authorities have sent out a bulletin to police across Europe asking them to watch out for a Citroen Xsara car that could be carrying Salah Abdeslam, the man on the run after his brother was named as one of the suicide bombers in the Paris attacks.

Spain’s El Espanol website published the document with the car’s description, naming Abdeslam.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...hamid-abu-oud-was-target-of-raids-latest-news

 

[cottonweaver]

Why the US is not subject to the same level of risk currently

Four days after the worst European terrorist attack in a decade and a day after extremist militants vowed to attack Washington, should Americans fear an attack like those that happened in Paris?

Counter-terrorism experts largely agree that the US does not face the same risks as Europe
How is the US different?
Facing the latest incarnation of terrorism, the US has at least two advantages it has counted on for centuries: geography and strict travel restrictions. Travel between the US and the Middle East has always been markedly more difficult than with Europe. Since the early 1900s – then spurred by fears of anarchist terrorism – the US has poured huge amounts of money and policy into screening, security and surveillance

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ns-fear-an-attack-like-what-happened-in-paris

 

[cottonweaver]

From the same article

refugees in US & terror risks

Do refugees play a part?
Not really, for the US at least. The American refugee screening process is a 12- to 18-month slog of bureaucracy, interviews and persistence, and the people who make it to the US almost never seek out trouble once they’ve landed. Since 9/11 the US has taken in more than 780,000 refugees, only three of whom have been arrested on terrorism charges, according to the State Department and Migration Policy Institute.

“Refugees don’t get to come directly to the US,” Hurlburt said. “Usually you sit in a UN camp for months or more likely years, because we just don’t take anyone who seems even slightly dodgy.”

Nor has the US made it easy for people seeking entry without refugee status. The US keeps large and restrictive watchlists, has information-sharing agreements with many countries, and has increased visa requirements since 9/11 (several of the plotters were repeatedly denied visas).

It's a long article, can't quote much due to copyright
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ns-fear-an-attack-like-what-happened-in-paris

ETA Thought some US based posters might be relieved to read this one?

 

[steelman]

Looks as though ISIS is killing Norwegian and Chinese captives in retaliation for the bombings.

Sorry to hear that, but it just magnifies the need to exterminate these pests like the rodents they are.


Just aired on Fox News----no link

 

[Momoffourboys]

Looks as though ISIS is killing Norwegian and Chinese captives in retaliation for the bombings.

Sorry to hear that, but it just magnifies the need to exterminate these pests like the rodents they are.


Just aired on Fox News----no link

Here's a link, Steelman.


http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/11/18/world/middleeast/ap-ml-islamic-state-hostages.html?_r=0

 

[cottonweaver]

Why you can't hope to get rid of ISIS & Assad together

Military chief explains why Cameron ( and others) have got contradictory war aims, in military terms- a small extract

Richards said a failure to use Assad’s forces would risk a repeat of the chaos in Iraq in the wake of the 2003 invasion. “Do we want to invite chaos by forcing [Assad] out without some sort of successor government that will ensure order at least in their own areas? In the areas controlled by Assad it is a functioning government. The dustbins are emptied. We don’t want to see what happened in Iraq in 2004/05/06 where it was chaotic because we couldn’t manage the aftermath. We have to be very careful that we don’t wish for something we don’t want. As much as we have awful dislike and distaste for Assad I would like to see him kept with his government in place at least for a while.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-are-contradictory-says-former-military-chief

 

[ZaZara]

THE 12 PEOPLE AND IDEAS THAT RUINED MOLENBEEK


Politico.eu
http://www.politico.eu/article/attack-on-paris-molenbeek-dirty-dozen/

“Brussels is a black hole in Europe’s anti-radicalization policy. It is easier for people with bad intentions — be they criminal, mafia or terrorist — to live life under the radar here than in any other major European city.” With a massive underground economy, notable to even short-term visitors, because of the prevalence of cash rather than electronic transactions, Brussels is also an arms and drugs haven.

In contrast to most countries, Belgium’s preachers are mostly born or trained outside the country. The ICC encouraged clerics from the 1980s onwards to shift to fundamentalist Salafist teachings, including the placement of over 600 salafist teachers into schools. Pointing at Molenbeek, the MP Georges Dallemagne said: “The very strong influence of Salafists … is one of the particularities that puts Belgium at the center of terrorism in Europe today.”


BBM

More at link!




If you want to catch up on Salafism: What is Salafism and should we be worried by it?

Salafism is described as "the fastest-growing Islamic movement in Europe" by Soren Kern of the New York Daily News. He accuses European leaders of failing to confront the rise of a dangerous ideology on their own turf.

Germany's intelligence chief, Hans-George Maassen, says the number of active Salafists in his country has grown from 3,800 to 6,300 in three years, according to Deutsche Welle.

Maassen says that most recruits are men aged from 18 to 30, with families from migrant backgrounds who have struggled to adjust to their new home. Salafism provides them with a sense of belonging and purpose, he said, "giving the impression that they will go from being underdogs to top dogs".

Salafis are fundamentalists who believe in a return to the original ways of Islam.

... Dr Ghayas Saddiqui from the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain told The First Post that there was "no moderation in [the Salafis'] approach". He added: "It is a very strict interpretation of Islam, and their attitude to both non-Muslims and Muslims who are not with them is very harsh.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/6073/what-is-salafism-and-should-we-be-worried-by-it

 

[steelman]

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS . . . it worked once in our History . . .

Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp





It worked in 1911, of course that was before everybody became politically correct and sensitive to the "feelings" of our modern terrorists.

I say we try it again..............

 

[wfgodot]

PBSO ‏@PBCountySheriff [video=twitter;666965383346307073]https://twitter.com/PBCountySheriff/status/666965383346307073[/video]
This is Diesel. The French police say she was killed in today's #SaintDenis #Paris raid. #jesuischien #RIP

DM:

Hero police dog blown up by suicide bomber during terrorists' last stand: French
police honour Diesel the Belgian Shepherd who 'died to defend our colours'

 

[Momoffourboys]

A thread worth checking out....following the attacks.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ylor-East-Village-in-New-York-2-November-2015

 

[Bravo]

The faces of the Victims has been devastating. Then the news and the pic of Diesel :anguish: