France - Explosions and shooting in Paris, 13 November 2015 #2

[cottonweaver]

[video=youtube;HM-E2H1ChJM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM[/video]

Scene from casablanca with Humphrey, Ingrid etc.

 

[Momoffourboys]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/w...mood-toward-islam-emerges-in-france.html?_r=0

After Paris a darker mood towards Islam emerges in France


And this is what ISIS wants...a world divided.

 

[bluesneakers]

I will just say that anyone minizing the threat, the anxiety or the fear of the situation. Saying we should go on about our lives and not let these attacks change who we are and how we think....has never been under a direct threat of terrorism.

Their children have never been under lockdown in kindergarten.

It is a game changer. I assure you.

How can you be so sure?

 

[cottonweaver]

French journalist's perspective as they wait for the football kick-off in one hour. ( Nice vid clip of some French fans singing anthem here too.)

Bruno Constant said:

We all know the players struggled initially with the idea of playing this match. That was only natural. The knee-jerk reaction, in those first few hours after the attacks, was to be reluctant to play.

“Then, I think, over time they realised - like all of us - that the match had to be played. There were two options. Either everyone stays at home, behind closed doors, being afraid and staying away from events like this. Or we stand, we live, we refuse to be afraid and we win.

“This will be good for the players, but also for the fans. For 80,000 people to be attending a game four days after the attacks in a city just a few hours away ... well, that’s incredible. We are so grateful to the English people for their show of support. We knew the French would come to the game, but it would have been easy for the England fans not to risk it. To stay at home and watch on the television. But they haven’t. And to have them all singing the Marseillaise and displaying this unity ... well, it’s a show of strength, a show of force.

“People are saying: ‘We will not stay away, we will go out and enjoy ourselves, have a beer, watch the game, carry on with our lives.’ The football itself is not the most important thing. The game is not that important. It’s not actually a football match any more. It’s something much bigger and more important.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/nov/17/england-france-international-friendly-live

 

[Fifth Avenue]

On a lighter note..

‘Screw them, we have champagne,’ Charlie Hebdo says in response to Paris attacks https://t.co/gyHYUnmMB5 https://t.co/SddrFO97Np


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[Momoffourboys]

How can you be so sure?

Because I AM THAT MOTHER.

 

[bluesneakers]

Because I AM THAT MOTHER.

So am I. Any one of us who has a kid under 20 years old has probably had that experience. I'm also a veteran who was stationed in a country where terrorism was a constant threat. I had friends in the Beirut barracks in 1983. You cannot speak for everyone.

 

[Momoffourboys]

So am I. Any one of us who has a kid under 20 years old has probably had that experience. I'm also a veteran who was stationed in a country where terrorism was a constant threat. I had friends in the Beirut barracks in 1983. You cannot speak for everyone.

I Speak for myself. And I voice my opinion. As stated in each of my posts.

 

[Momoffourboys]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34843660

How to explain the Paris attacks to children

 

[Tadpole12]

SA bro M speaks to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/17/world/paris-attacks/

He knows people right now that are training for IS.
He was questioned for 36 hours, released, and now on CNN.

 

[Fifth Avenue]

German stadium evacuated: Security official says related to Paris attacks https://t.co/HDUYhdnFBF

Initial reports say that an ambulance loaded with explosives found. One person arrested (unconfirmed)


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[Safeguard]

We have a huge homeless population in the Boston area. It's getting worse everyday. We do what we can to help, directly, meals, blankets, cash, if we can spare it. But my children come before this aid. If I can't feed and shelter my own family, I have no business helping others, by furthering the impoverishment of my own. Are there homeless here that will die this winter? Of course. There is every winter. It doesn't even always make the News anymore...

However, If we were to be told, that we had to leave our doors unlocked and take in any homeless person that walked in, feed, house and clothe that person, (would certainly be a huge boon for the homeless community!), but it would be an insanely dangerous example of misguided charity. I feel our government needs to get their priorities straight.

 

[Elley Mae]

I will just say that anyone minizing the threat, the anxiety or the fear of the situation. Saying we should go on about our lives and not let these attacks change who we are and how we think....has never been under a direct threat of terrorism.

Their children have never been under lockdown in kindergarten.

It is a game changer. I assure you.

I was fortunate in that I was watching the news that day, 9/11 didn't have cable so was watching katie & matt and when the first plane hit it was being reported that a small plane has crashed into ?tower and then panned the camera up to the sky and when I saw the hole in the building I said that was no small plane that did that. And then shanksville, Pa, and I was on my way to daughter's HS that is on a military base real close to nsa and I high tailed it to the school to get her out and by the time I exited the lot on the civilian side they were in the process of a lockdown, game changer for sure. jmo idk

 

[cottonweaver]

Putin : From pariah to power-broker in one year

...........Fast-forward to this week’s G20 summit in Turkey and everything, it seems, has changed. Putin was pictured in a friendly huddle, chatting animatedly to Obama and the US national security adviser Susan Rice. He also held reportedly productive talks with Cameron and other leaders. No longer ostracised and browbeaten, Putin was the man everybody wanted to meet.

The reason is not a mystery. Under merciless attack from Islamic State, flailing on the refugee crisis, and consequently desperate to end the war in Syria, European leaders, backed by Obama, have come to an uncomfortable but, in historical terms, not wholly novel conclusion: they need Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/17/vladimir-putin-from-pariah-to-powerbroker-in-one-year

 

[FLmom777]

I just saw a website listing Isis arrests in the US. I can't link but Google Isis arrests in us

 

[Bravo]

Presser coming up on latest Stadium evacuation in Germany on CNN

 

[bookboarder]

Yeh, a bunch of kids living in their mom's basement ought to solve this, the arrogance of the so called 'Anonymous' group knows no bounds IMO.

Anonymous is ridiculous. For a look behind the curtain, I recommend reading this self-styled "grey-hat hacker" blog to understand how bad of an idea it is to have Anonymous involving themselves in this situation.

The blog writer is anonymous on the internet but he is known to have served in the US Armed Forces and uses his extremely good skills to take down, interrupt and damage terrorist websites. He's quite interesting and I just wanted to put this out there because he explains so much so well.

I first read his blog after the Boston Marathon attacks and he broke that entire situation down so well, I encourage everyone to read that as well.

 

[Bravo]

Is their plan to keep going right now? No laying low for a bit!!!!!!

 

[skibaboo]

I grew up under the threat of the IRA. I was terrified every time we went to London or any other large city. Jumped at loud bangs etc. You have to keep living your life, it's gonna damage you even if you do keep living, I guess we adapt to move on. I'm sure it contributed to my anxiety disorder, but I have other personal factors to take into it too.

Got England v France on the telly, it's going to be emotional

 

[cottonweaver]

we were in South Africa when 9/11 occurred, watched the horror unfurl , like most of you on TV, but further away. We had to get back on the return flight two days later and I am normally very SCARED of flying . By the time I got on that flight I had no fear, just defiance and a said to my family NOBODY is going to frighten me with a "box-cutter". LOL:facepalm:
Fear affects people differently, some get defiant at the injustice and at protecting others and trust me I'm no "hero" type.
As I said when I first posted, I lived with that very real fear for decades in the UK.
Today I have friends, safe thankfully, in central Paris.
on 7/7 I spent a day desperately trying to get hold of family in Bloomsbury central London - where one of the bombs went off.
In Manchester Iived a mile from where the huge bomb went off that day.
I think having older relatives as a child tell you about being bombed in WW2 maybe has an effect, IDK really.

It is scary. It makes you more aware and more suspicious, but everyone really is different and none of us know each other's experience.