France - Karen Carter, 65, stabbed to death, Dordogne, 29 April 2025

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DBM
 
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Not much new (the same news about the DNA as last week):


Mr Chassagne said a squad of gendarmes has been stationed in the village throughout the course of the investigation.

“That was three weeks ago, a month ago. They were assigned to the case as a supplement to gain a fresh perspective.”

“Life has returned to normal. But as soon as there is the slightest micro-event, everything comes back to the surface.”


Also:

Prosecutors believe the murder was a meticulously planned crime, carried out by someone who knew Ms Carter.

He or she lay in wait, they believe, and took care to avoid leaving forensic evidence, before using 'unspeakable violence' against the defenceless Ms Carter, according an investigating source.

'It certainly could have been someone who knew the victim from the Café Village, or a contract killer acting on their behalf,' the source added.
 
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This idea of a contract killer, is there a reason to assume that this might have been the case?
IMO a contract killer would not kill with so much rage, or specifically target the groin area. Get it over and done with and be gone. Don't make a bloody mess of it.

Again IMO, it seems more likely that either the perp had a personal grudge against KC, or a grudge against women in general and KC happened to be around.
 
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This idea of a contract killer, is there a reason to assume that this might have been the case?
IMO a contract killer would not kill with so much rage, or specifically target the groin area. Get it over and done with and be gone. Don't make a bloody mess of it.

Again IMO, it seems more likely that either the perp had a personal grudge against KC, or a grudge against women in general and KC happened to be around.

Besides,
the idea of a "contract killer" sounds IMO ... ummm...too...
farfetched, or "Hollywoodish" to be factual.

With many women being murdered every day by ordinary perps all over the world,
I really don't see the necessity to bring this outlandish theory.

JMO
 
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This idea of a contract killer, is there a reason to assume that this might have been the case?
IMO a contract killer would not kill with so much rage, or specifically target the groin area. Get it over and done with and be gone. Don't make a bloody mess of it.

Again IMO, it seems more likely that either the perp had a personal grudge against KC, or a grudge against women in general and KC happened to be around.

I thought they'd use less messy ways too until I read this story, I posted it earlier in the thread but here's the link.
So anything is possible. Not all hitmen are pros.
 
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IMO a contract killer would not kill with so much rage, or specifically target the groin area.
I can't see how it's possible to conclude the murderer was motivated by rage. IMO, that is pure projection: "I would only do that if I were in a rage". We don't know what the killer felt.

Also, the idea that the killer was deliberately 'choosing' to stab in the groin area hasn't, IMO, been demonstrated. The victim would have been actively defending herself, likely moving around to protect her face, neck and vital organs - possibly then, just leaving other areas unprotected. Also, apparently it was dark.

JMO
 
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I don't think the idea of a contract killer is so unusual or strange or something that shouldn't be considered.

In many cases that is exactly what happened.
 
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I don't think the idea of a contract killer is so unusual or strange or something that shouldn't be considered.

In many cases that is exactly what happened.

Yep,
but usually in gang related killings.

Here we have a lady living her best life in provincial France during retirement.

I cannot, for the life of me, imagine such extraordinary scenario.
My intuition fails in this specific regard :rolleyes:

JMO
 
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She'd recently told her husband she wanted a divorce and was making plans to move on with her life. That's a big motive right there.
Way too many women have been murdered after attempting to leave their partner.
 
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She'd recently told her husband she wanted a divorce and was making plans to move on with her life. That's a big motive right there.

Hmmm....

Sorry, but the husband is not on my list of hypothetical perps.

Besides,
If it was him (cough, cough)
he could do it while the victim was in S Africa.
There is a problem with violence there.
After all,
Karen left SA because of this issue.
And the attack could have been treated as random violence.

JMO
 
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She'd recently told her husband she wanted a divorce and was making plans to move on with her life. That's a big motive right there.
Way too many women have been murdered after attempting to leave their partner.
The husband also publicly denied there was divorce talk (he stated that they had been merely going through a rough patch) and according to Karen's friend, Karen tried to divorce him, but he wasn't keen on that.
 
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The husband also publicly denied there was divorce talk (he stated that they had been merely going through a rough patch) and according to Karen's friend, Karen tried to divorce him, but he wasn't keen on that.

Do you mean the guy didn't run to tabloids with a sob story
opening his heart to all and sundry?

Some men have dignity.

Personal problems are just that: PERSONAL.
Besides,
there are children to be thought of.

JMO
 
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Do you mean the guy didn't run to tabloids with a sob story
opening his heart to all and sundry?

Some men have dignity.

Personal problems are just that: PERSONAL.
Besides,
there are children to be thought of.

JMO
I'm not sure what you are getting at. The husband willingly spoke with the British media and so did Karen's friend/neighbor (who is also British).
 
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Yep,
but usually in gang related killings.

Here we have a lady living her best life in provincial France during retirement.

I cannot, for the life of me, imagine such extraordinary scenario.
My intuition fails in this specific regard :rolleyes:

JMO

Normally when we think of contract killers we think of the professional hitmen we see in movies: John Wick, Pulp Fiction, Grosse Point Blank, etc.

But that's not the only kind. Sometimes the contract killer is just a low-life. Not a professional, but someone willing to murder for a few bucks. Jared Bridegan and Dan Markel are just two examples of people killed by amateur hitmen. There are many, many more.

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Hmmm....

Sorry, but the husband is not on my list of hypothetical perps.

Besides,
If it was him (cough, cough)
he could do it while the victim was in S Africa.
There is a problem with violence there.
After all,
Karen left SA because of this issue.
And the attack could have been treated as random violence.

JMO
IF the husband is responsible, he thought smart. ML wouldn't have been a suspect then; only he himself as the husband, who exploited his wife's vacation in SA. MOO
 
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IF the husband is responsible, he thought smart. ML wouldn't have been a suspect then; only he himself as the husband, who exploited his wife's vacation in SA. MOO
Perhaps the husband didn't even know M-L existed, let alone that she was his wife's love rival.
 
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Hey folks,

Unless the husband has been officially named a POI, stop throwing shade and making insinuations about him.

Thanks !!
 
  • #478
The husband said:
“Karen’s mother recently died. She was heartbroken as we all are, and died without the comfort of knowing that her daughter’s killer had been found.”

 
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