GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4

[LMDlong]

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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#AhmaudArbery - INTERESTING: Sheffiled said that its his understanding that William "Roddie" Bryan WILL NOT testify.

IMO they are making RB to look not so bright , being that he only has a 12th grade education. Oh please I know people that didn’t make it that far that are very bright. I hope some of the jurors catch on to that. I believe the defense knows he will cave on the witness stand . There’s more than him being a nosy neighbor , who works at the neighborhood hardware store. Our neighborhood hardware is like a beauty parlor.
All above is MOO

 

[LMDlong]

I"m guessing that the odds of Greg taking the stand are going down with each question Travis can't lie his way out of.

This family is something else. I wonder if his sister will be called to testify for her brother.

 

[kaen]

My current theory is that the 3 defense attorneys are more or less on the same page with each other. Bryan's attorney looks like a buffoon but is the gadfly who keeps pushing the court for leniency/dismissal/etc. TM is lucky that the charges against Bryan weren't dismissed because he would be called to testify and the post killing expletive would make it into the proceedings. I think they are counting in TM to look sympathetic and that some of his lies will be explained away because of his horror in the moment. I they they are all in agreement to that they are trying to make Mr. Arbery look unhinged, crazy and volatile. With each defense witness that is what we are going to hear--Mr. Arbery started this and created the events that lead to his death. I am sickened by this just as I was by Derek Chauvin and that defense.

TM was making himself be the neighborhood LE. Sticking himself into situations where he was accusing and harming others. But, escalates (while believing he was de-escalating) a situation rather than just waiting for the real police to arrive.

Praying for justice for Mr. Arbery. He was hunted and executed by a man who doesn't have the courage to be honest about his actions or his heart.

 

[MikeF]

So, I mentioned prior to the trial starting that a large point of my interest was going to be Gough. And I honestly wayyyyyyy underestimated him. I don't even think in my wildest dreams I would have imagined him ranting about black pastors like's done, and he just keeps doing it. Not to mention it's like he's on a trampoline as much as he pops up. That poor jury needs roller skates and fitbits.

 

[MikeF]

IMO they are making RB to look not so bright , being that he only has a 12th grade education. Oh please I know people that didn’t make it that far that are very bright. I hope some of the jurors catch on to that. I believe the defense knows he will cave on the witness stand . There’s more than him being a nosy neighbor , who works at the neighborhood hardware store. Our neighborhood hardware is like a beauty parlor.
All above is MOO

Gough has been tearing RB down since the very first interview. Talking about his education, his size and he's just kept doing it. And honestly idk the age of any jurors but if RB went on the stand? G McMichaels would be close to gods waiting room with all the objections Gough would be making. Every single question, sentence, sneeze or the possibility a black pastor was lurking in the courthouse. (if you've not seen the first interview--look on YT for "how to not lawyer".

 

[Hope4More]

This family is something else. I wonder if his sister will be called to testify for her brother.

I very much doubt it. Because then she might be asked on cross why she took a photo of AA laying dead in the street & posted it on SM that same day, with an approving message about her brother's accomplishment.

 

[JayWill]

I very much doubt it. Because then she might be asked on cross why she took a photo of AA laying dead in the street & posted it on SM that same day, with an approving message about her brother's accomplishment.

How terrible was that? I hope his family sue her, specifically for that.

 

[ilovewings]

I very much doubt it. Because then she might be asked on cross why she took a photo of AA laying dead in the street & posted it on SM that same day, with an approving message about her brother's accomplishment.

Wow- I did not know that

 

[JayWill]

Wow- I did not know that

I did. It was disgraceful and showed the family's attitude to people like Ahmaud.

 

[ilovewings]

I am hoping for a Perry Mason moment tomorrow when the prosecutor continues

with her cross of TM!

 

[LMDlong]

I very much doubt it. Because then she might be asked on cross why she took a photo of AA laying dead in the street & posted it on SM that same day, with an approving message about her brother's accomplishment.

That’s what I was thinking , but we can hope.

 

[LMDlong]

Today TM said that when AA was on the ground he pulled his arm out from under him to check for a weapon. A few days ago an officer testifying said that when speaking with GM he had blood on his hand that GM said was from pulling Arbery’s arm out to check for a weapon.

 

[Lilibet]

I very much doubt it. Because then she might be asked on cross why she took a photo of AA laying dead in the street & posted it on SM that same day, with an approving message about her brother's accomplishment.

Here is a link to support your post. But I don’t see anything about an approving comment.
Woman whose brother and father 'murdered Ahmaud Arbery' posted photo of the black jogger's body | Daily Mail Online

 

[tara83]

Here is a link to support your post. But I don’t see anything about an approving comment.
Woman whose brother and father 'murdered Ahmaud Arbery' posted photo of the black jogger's body | Daily Mail Online

Is this woman for real?She posts pics of a dead man's body on the day he was killed like it's nothing.Does she even think that this is a human being who has family who loved him and would be upset with this.Then she comments that her dad and brother may have made mistakes but who hasn't.Chasing a man down and murdering him isn't a mistake.

 

[Lilibet]

Is this woman for real?She posts pics of a dead man's body on the day he was killed like it's nothing.Does she even think that this is a human being who has family who loved him and would be upset with this.Then she comments that her dad and brother may have made mistakes but who hasn't.Chasing a man down and murdering him isn't a mistake.

Apparently, if it’s “true crime” (her hobby), she’s all in. IMO There didn’t even need to actually be an “approving comment” per the OP because her total lack of empathy and excuses for her father and brother make her approval abundantly clear…no matter how many non-white men she claims to have dated and brought home to enjoy her mothers cooking. SMH

The one thing she’s right about is that she and her mother should not be getting threats.

 

[wasnt_me]

I am hoping for a Perry Mason moment tomorrow when the prosecutor continues

with her cross of TM!

I think she had one. I think she showed that TM went after AA because he thought AA had been the one to take his gun. It's why they so unreasonably went after him without knowing anything down the street. TM told the neighbor who had the video of the day his gun went missing that he knew who did it. He denied saying that to the neighbor.

I think that just like TM got a lead on the homeless guy and decided he took stuff from the neighborhood, TM got it in his head that AA took that gun, and that's why he went after him.

Did anyone notice that TM said he put the shotgun "Back in the door?" what happened to it being wedged between the seats?

 

[clearskies1]

I think she had one. I think she showed that TM went after AA because he thought AA had been the one to take his gun. It's why they so unreasonably went after him without knowing anything down the street. TM told the neighbor who had the video of the day his gun went missing that he knew who did it. He denied saying that to the neighbor.

I think that just like TM got a lead on the homeless guy and decided he took stuff from the neighborhood, TM got it in his head that AA took that gun, and that's why he went after him.

Did anyone notice that TM said he put the shotgun "Back in the door?" what happened to it being wedged between the seats?

I don't think that neighbor has testified. At least I don't recall him testifying. Unless and until he does, there is no evidence refuting TM's testimony about their conversation. But it does seem like the DA is teeing it up to call him on rebuttal. JMO.

 

[Niner]

For Wed. Nov. 17th:

Veronica Waters
@MissVWaters
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TMcMichael:That experience w/him drawing the w--or acting like he was drawing a weapon then running into house & walking so nonchalantly around it startled me. Catching him creeping thru yard trying to avoid detection & walking and like it's no big deal was alarming.



Travis McMichael says he concluded that the person he saw Feb. 11 was the same person behind other crimes. "I thought he was breaking in and going to steal some more stuff." Brief recess as they prepare to talk about Feb. 23.

Back frm break. Juror #12, whom defense atty Bob Rubin earlier noted seemed sleepy, is going to be moved closer to bailiff so if she's struggling she can stand & move. Judge says he's made eye contact w/ her several times. She wasn't dozing but seemed to have probs.

2.23.2020. Travis McMichael was in the living room trying to get son to nap. Father came in "in a almost frantic state." Said "The guy that's been breaking in down the road just ran by the house. Something's happened."



TMcMichael: "I assumed it was the same guy from Feb. 11. I think he told me to grab my gun...so I grabbed the shotgun." Dad went into bedroom. TM went to truck. Looked toward 220 Satilla and saw neighbor Matt Albenze in the road.

McMichael: Matt saw me, and pointed down the road, down Satilla Dr. With the events of Feb 11 I thought it was reasonable that there's something to this, Matt may've seen him, caught him breaking in or stealing something, or God forbid an altercation"



Travis McMichael: Dad came out, said, Get in the truck. TM put shotgun in crease of bench seat. Muzzle toward floor near gas. Dad got in truck "stuffed in the car seat." I think he was cussin about having to get in car seat (Think I saw GM chuckle at this)



T McMichael says he assumed his father had called police. About that time we were at Satilla & Holmes. Riding the brake. Not honking or yelling out window. He pulls up next to #AhmaudArbery. Doesn't hit him with truck.

McMichael: This is likely the guy I saw. I'm watching his hand to see if he's armed. Pull up alongside him. Recognize him from the 11th. I say, "Hey. What are you doing? What's going on?" #AhmaudArbery is parallel to door.

Travis McMichael says he's talking in regular tone of voice, trying to de-escalate; this could go any way, but I'm trying to find out what's going on. I say, Hey, stop for a minute! Please stop! Sheffield: You said please? TM: I'm sure I did.

T McMichael: "I notice his demeanor. He looks over to me. First communication 4-5 feet away. Stop, I wanna talk to you. He's still running. He looks very angry--mad. It wasn't what I expected for just coming up talking to him. Clenched teeth--he was mad."



McMichael says #AhmaudArbery doesn't speak; he starts jogging back towards Burford. I reverse, match up with him again--Hey, what's going on? He turns and runs back to Zellwood.

Travis McMichael says his question there was wanting to know why the neighbor's pointing down the road toward this guy. "We need to figure out what's happening." Were you aware of Mr. Bryan at that moment? TM: No. Didn't know him.

Sheffield: Did you look at Bryan and say Let's go, help us out? T McMichael: No. #AhmaudArbery didn't speak. I was watching his hands, his demeanor. I came up to him again to say, The police are coming. (They again demonstrate for jurors how close)

T McMichael: I ask what's going on. He still looks angry. I think, man, this could be volatile. Kinda watch him here. I ask, why're people pointing? What're u running from? I said, Police are coming. As soon as I said "police" #AhmaudArbery turned & sprinted down Burford

McMichael testifies when #AhmaudArbery turned and ran at mention of police, it made him suspicious--he may have been caught in that house again and he's up to....trying to evade being stopped by police. Obviously since he's running.



McMichael says he never brandished his gun. When #AhmadArbery stopped TM thought they were going to speak. Then TM mentioned police and Arbery ran as dad was getting out to get in truck bed.

McMichael looked up and saw a black pickup. Didn't know where it came from. Saw #AhmaudArbery turn, go near it. Didn't know if guy was picking Arbery up. Also thought, I might hear a gunshot here. I didn't know; was on alert. Arbery got in front of it, went down road

McMichael says, I got back in my truck. Dad's seeing this as well. Telling me, Go down there, toward #AhmaudArbery. Sheffield: Do you? TM: I do not. I don't know what's going on w/this guy & don't want to escalate the situation

McMichael says he thinks, There's a likelihood something's happened. Don't know what he's doing interacting w/ this truck; something's not right. Cops are coming, I'm not going to escalate this any further. My goal is to let police know where he's at

T. McMichael guesses 2 minutes might've elapsed by now. He goes down Buford to Zellwood to get bearings, figure out what's going on. I can figure where he's at, tell police, finally have this guy caught.

Halfway down Holmes, McMichael sees #AhmaudArbery turn. TM says he's driving slowly. Shortly sees black truck coming towards him frm Satilla twds Zellwood. Arbery is "running with the truck & looks like he's grabbing truck...looks like he's trying to get in the door"

Sheffield: Wondering why #AhmaudArbery isn't going somewhere other than this vehicle? McMichael: That was my thought. Why is he attacking a truck? Why is he hitting a truck?

McMichael says he's come to a stop. They're coming down Holmes, slowly angling into my lane. In front of my vehicle, hope they don't hit my truck. Mr. #AhmaudArbery's involved with Mr. Bryan, Bryan's involved w/Arbery. Truck gets in correct lane. Arbery runs off

McMichael: #AhmaudArbery & Bryan went around the dogleg. McMichael doesn't want to get more involved at this point. He parked his truck; they were out of sight. I'm still under impression police are coming. This guy's obviously--something's not right. He seems dangerous

Travis McMichael asked dad, Where're the police? Dad says he doesn't have his phone. TM goes to grab his phone. Sees #AhmaudArbery coming back toward him from the dogleg. I yell, Stop!

T McMichael says #AhmaudArbery was about 30 yards away as he yells, Stop right there! Arbery's not looking left or right, not a full sprint or job, but like a running back on toes ready to bolt.

T McMichael took 2 seconds to realize #AhmaudArbery was coming to him. I'm at my truck, door's open. I go to grab for my shotgun. As soon as I do that he's 10 feet from back of truck. He turns & runs back toward dogleg.

T McMichael believes his action of going into his truck is what made #AhmaudArbery turn away. TM thought, I need to stay where I'm at. Don't know what's going on down there. This guy's still irrational. I pick up phone, call 911. Put phone to ear, see Arbery come back.

T McMichael gave cell phone to dad. He didn't see anything behind #AhmaudArbery as he came back. He was focused on me. Sheffield: What are you thinking? TM: I'm pretty sure he is going to attack.

T McMichael says Yes, there were places #AhmaudArbery could've run to. A ditch, an open yard. At this point I've screamed for him to stop, to stop. He's focused in on me. If he gets this burst out--at this point when I pulled shotgun--I wouldn't have time to react



Travis McMichael: I needed to show him, to deter him, Do not come at me

T McMichael: I had the weapon out and down. It was blatant. Sheffield: Did it have the effect you wanted? TM: Yes. He angled away. Soon as I drew weapon. You could see in the video he darts left and right. I put weapon down and move away from vehicle.



T McMichael says he was going to let #AhmaudArbery run on by. Arbery could've run out of neighborhood. He makes it to corner of road, straightens and starts running back toward truck where father is.

T McMichael: He's thinking #AhmaudArbery could jump up in truck where his dad is, or he could be armed and shoot. I move to center of road. I think Arbery's going to glance and run right. I'm losing visual on him.

T McMichael says he has gun down, ready. I get to front of truck he's at front quarter-panel on right side. He turns, in a flash, he's on me. He grabs the shotgun and I believe I was struck. I was thinking of my son. *voice breaks*

Sheffield: What'd you do? Travis McMichael: I shot. He had my gun. He'd struck me. If he'd gotten the shotgun from me--It was obvious he was attacking me. It was a life-or-death situation. I'm going to have to stop him from doing this so I shot.

Sheffield: Did he stop when you shot? McMichael: He did not. He can't remember every movement. He knows he got hit. Discusses weapon retention--push/pull method. When this happened, I got struck, I came down, got hit in top of head, he had weapon in his hand

Sheffield: Did you get gun from #AhmaudArbery's grip. McMichael: I don't believe I did. We were locked up. He was on that shotgun. I didn't know where I was at but knew he was on me.

McMichael: If I got tripped or he got a lucky strike on my head or I lost my grip, I would've been shot or in serious trouble. I knew he was overpowering me. He says he doesn't remember how many times he shot. He thought it was 2x. "He was not relenting."

McMichael says that final shot, #AhmaudArbery disengaged. He let go. Turned and continued to run down Satilla (voice breaks again). At that point I was in shock. My dad's yelling, He's got his hand under him. We pull his hand out, realize he's deceased.

McMichael says he looks up, sees police are right there. He stood up, realized I've got a gun here, #AhmaudArbery's passed away. I walked over to side and put my shotgun down gun. After that, it was a blur.



link: https://twitter.com/MissVWaters


There are no tweets on cross by the ADA - so I picked up @tlcya's posts for reference. Maybe this morning she might post more about the cross.

Tweets from Cathy - but not much else - she's is just retweeting Veronica's.

Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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10h
#AhmaudArbery - Sheffield arguing that the state should not be able to ask TM about what Agt Dial said William Bryan told him that Travis stood over Arbery and said "f'ing n*****". Prosecutor said she needs time to think about it and will address in the morning.



NOW: Cross-examination of Travis McMichael by prosecutor Linda Dunikoski.

#AhmaudArbery - Court adjourned for the day. Cross-examination of Travis McMichael will resume at 9am ET.

INTERESTING: Sheffiled said that its his understanding that William "Roddie" Bryan WILL NOT testify.


link: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

 

[Niner]

Thursday, November 18th:
*Trial continues (Day 10) (@ 9am ET) - GA – Ahmaud Marquez Arbery (25) (Feb. 23, 2020, shot while jogging in Satilla Shores neighborhood, Brunswick) - *Gregory Johns McMichael (64/now 65) arrested (5/7/20) & charged (5/8/20) with felony murder & aggravated assault. Indicted (6/24/20), charged & arraigned (7/17/20) with 1 count of malice murder, 4 counts of felony murder, 2 counts of aggravated assault, 1 count of false imprisonment & 1 count of criminal attempt to commit a felony. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Bond denied (11/13/20).
*Travis James McMichael (34/now 35) arrested (5/7/20) & charged (5/8/20) with felony murder & aggravated assault. Indicted (6/24/20), charged & arraigned (7/17/20) with 1 count of malice murder, 4 counts of felony murder, 2 counts of aggravated assault, 1 count of false imprisonment & 1 count of criminal attempt to commit a felony. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Bond denied (11/13/20).
*William “Roddie” Roderick Bryan, Jr. (50/now 51) arrested & charged (5/21/20) with felony murder & criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment. Indicted (6/24/20), charged & arraigned (7/17/20) with 1 count of malice murder, 4 counts of felony murder, 2 counts of aggravated assault, 1 count of false imprisonment & 1 count of criminal attempt to commit a felony. Plead not guilty. Held without bond.
Trial began on 10/18/21 with jury selection & ended on 11/3/21. Trial began on 11/5/21. Jurors: 5 men & 11 women with 4 alternates. 15 white/1 black jurors. 11/4/21: Juror #579 was excused, sick. Alternates now 3.
Court info from 5/8/20 thru 10/17/21 & Jury selection (Day 1-12) 10/18/21-11/3/21 & Trial (Day 1-8) 11/5/21 to 11/16/21(State rested their case on 11/16/21) reference post #429 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
11/17/21 Wednesday, Trial Day 9: Judge wants to convene at 9am to hear any motions related to State resting case-in-chief. Directed verdicts; defendants' right to testify. He's cautiously optimistic we'll be ready for Gough's opening statement at 10am. Then evidence.
Motion to prohibit any further conduct that may intimidate or influence jurors & otherwise interfere with a fair trial filed. Challenges by attorneys.
for more info see posts #439 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
and more info see posts #452 & 456 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
Judge Timothy Walmsley denies the motions for acquittal for Greg & Travis McMichael & Roddie Bryan in the Arbery shooting case.
Opening statements by Kevin Gough.
for more info see posts #464, 466, 468 & 474 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
Defense witness: Travis McMichaels.
for more info see posts #486 & 499 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
Travis McMichaels continued.
for more info see post #518 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
Travis McMichaels continued.
For more info see post #529 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
for more info see post #659 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
State cross of Travis. No tweets for this part - took tlcya's posts.
for more info see posts #590, 592, 594 & 595 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
Cross of Travis continued.
for more info see posts #601, 605, 609, 611, 612, 616, 618 here:
GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #4
Sheffiled said that it’s his understanding that William "Roddie" Bryan WILL NOT testify. Court adjourned for the day. Cross-examination of Travis McMichael will resume at 9am.
New timeline for trial in death of Arbery from defense attorneys’ predictions: They’re not asking Judge anymore to start closing arguments after Thanksgiving. Hope to be done with their 12 or so witnesses (total for all three defendants) by Friday. Closing arguments on Monday, 11/22/21. Trial continues on 11/18/21.
*Federal charges: *Travis James McMichael (34/now 35) & *Gregory Johns McMichael & *William “Roddie” Roderick Bryan, Jr. Next motions hearing on 11/19/21, maybe (?). Trial set to begin on 2/7/22.

 

[sds71]

@Emma_Hurt
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Updates from the trial of #AhmaudArbery's killers: Defendant Travis McMichael took the stand for the 1st time yesterday and continues answering Qs today. https://axios.com/local/atlanta/2021/11/17/travis-mcmichael-takes-stand-trial…

Hundreds of pastors are expected at the courthouse today. Here's why: https://axios.com/local/atlanta/2021/11/18/pastors-gather-glynn-county-defense-attorneys-comments…
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