GUILTY GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former LEO and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020 *Arrests* #6

[LMDlong]

I hadn't thought about TM's son. And I know that they brought it up in trial - that TM had to shoot because he was thinking of his son and if AA got his gun and shot him.

But in actuality, if TM really was thinking of his son, he wouldn't have put himself in this position. He may have had coast guard training, and maybe in the past showing someone a weapon made the person flee. But here, he showed the weapon and didn't allow AA to flee. What was AA supposed to do? TM had plenty of opportunities to retreat and he didn't. He made a conscious choice.

So very true.

 

[LMDlong]

I hadn't thought about TM's son. And I know that they brought it up in trial - that TM had to shoot because he was thinking of his son and if AA got his gun and shot him.

But in actuality, if TM really was thinking of his son, he wouldn't have put himself in this position. He may have had coast guard training, and maybe in the past showing someone a weapon made the person flee. But here, he showed the weapon and didn't allow AA to flee. What was AA supposed to do? TM had plenty of opportunities to retreat and he didn't. He made a conscious choice.

So very true.

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McMichaels with blood on their hands.

Malice murder, he said, is akin to a first-degree homicide charge in other states. According to Georgia law, it means someone had a "deliberate intention unlawfully to take the life of another human being" where they weren't provoked and demonstrated "an abandoned and malignant heart" — or essentially, it was done out of ill will.

The prosecution was able to successfully argue that as the person who made the decision to fire the weapon, Travis McMichael was malicious in a charge that carries a life sentence. They also made clear that malice murder can be committed in a split second, and leaned into the idea that Travis McMichael grew angry when Arbery didn't heed his commands to stop during the encounter.

I agree with all you said CC . I like to add IMO TM’s statement immediately after killing AA erased any doubt of not guilty of malice.

 

[LMDlong]

I can't imagine what AA's parents are feeling. Sometimes you want and deserve something so much, but then when you get it, you realize the impact of what happened can't be undone. JMO.

I knew parents whose child was murdered. The killer in jail. They were the same, neither is our town. But there is one less killer free to kill.

 

[LMDlong]

I knew parents whose child was murdered. The killer in jail. They were the same, neither is our town. But there is one less killer free to kill.

I meant “They were never the same” .

 

[JayWill]

I knew parents whose child was murdered. The killer in jail. They were the same, neither is our town. But there is one less killer free to kill.

You have about half an hour to edit your post. I am always doing that, leaving a word out. The edit button is before the report button on the left hand side at the bottom. If it is still blue you are still the time allowed for editing.

 

[Chelly]

Don't forget they are facing Federal charges as well. Martin Savage reported jury selection is scheduled for Feb.

I am glad they are facing Federal charges too. Hate to sound mean. But I loathe the hypocrisy and racism and vigilante justice that certain parts of the U.S believe is an entitlement.

 

[Chelly]

Kudos to the judge
Best. Judge. Ever

 

[Chelly]

The prosecution team is standing by to be interviewed live on CNN in a few minutes.

 

[Luna20]

I haven’t watched the trial completely. Are Ahmauds parents divorced?

 

[LaborDayRN]

I have been following this VERY disturbing case pretty much silently. I couldn't bare to think that these monsters would get away with it and honestly I was terrified they would.
I sighed a huge sigh of relief when the jury's decision was read. It felt like a weight was lifted. I applaud their decision and hope it sends a message to others that this type of heinous behavior will not be tolerated! It will NOT!

 

[wasnt_me]

I find myself thinkng about his fear-- which went on for a long time- his wondering why these men were chasing him, yelling for him to stop, and him trying desperately to get away from them- but they would not allow him to get
away or live-- they will have lots of time rotting their lives away in prison to ask themselves, was it worth it to get that black man they hated so much

Right. Because, for all he knew, they were luring him into a lynching...which turned out to be true.

 

[sds71]

I forgot about him

It wasn’t two men with a Confederate flag in the back of a truck going down the road and shooting a jogger in the back,” Tucker said. “It got the truth out there as to what you could see.”

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[mickey2942]

I wonder if the convicted will be put in protective custody?

 

[wasnt_me]

I wonder if the convicted will be put in protective custody?

They have been the whole time.

 

[kaen]

As the verdict came in, I was with young people--young people who often feel that justice is not going to happen for them. Today, I feel some measure of justice has been given to Mr. Arbery and his family. The jury got this right in my opinion. I am sad that these situations continue to happen in our country. But, I am gratified that the jury was not blinded with what many felt they could not do.

Rest in Power, Mr. Arbery. Tomorrow when the Arbery family sits down to give thanks, they still won't have their son. My greatest hope is that people like these murderers recognize that they can no longer just hunt down and/or kill just because they think they have the right to do so. I will be thankful for this jury and their ability to see beyond the dog whistles and veiled racism.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

I wonder if the convicted will be put in protective custody?

They were previously, but I believe they will be moving facilities. Local jail is usually for those who are locked up for not more than a year, they will go to prison since they will be locked up for longer than that.

 

[ilovewings]

As the verdict came in, I was with young people--young people who often feel that justice is not going to happen for them. Today, I feel some measure of justice has been given to Mr. Arbery and his family. The jury got this right in my opinion. I am sad that these situations continue to happen in our country. But, I am gratified that the jury was not blinded with what many felt they could not do.

Rest in Power, Mr. Arbery. Tomorrow when the Arbery family sits down to give thanks, they still won't have their son. My greatest hope is that people like these murderers recognize that they can no longer just hunt down and/or kill just because they think they have the right to do so. I will be thankful for this jury and their ability to see beyond the dog whistles and veiled racism.

some of the racism wasnt so veiled!!!!

 

[Cool Cats]

EXPLAINER: Trio guilty of killing Ahmaud Arbery. What now?

Travis during the reading of the verdict

HOW MUCH PRISON TIME ARE THEY FACING?

Malice and felony murder convictions both carry a minimum penalty of life in prison. The judge decides whether that comes with or without the possibility of parole. Even if the possibility of parole is granted, a person convicted of murder must serve 30 years before becoming eligible. Multiple murder convictions are merged for the purposes of sentencing.

Each count of aggravated assault carries a prison term of at least one year but not more than 20 years. False imprisonment is punishable by a sentence of one to 10 years in prison.

WHEN WILL THEY BE SENTENCED?

That's not clear yet. Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley will set a sentencing date.

WILL THERE BE APPEALS?

Appeals are almost certain in this case, said University of Georgia law professor emeritus Ron Carlson.

One likely basis for appeal could be the exclusion of certain evidence from the trial, he said. Defense attorneys had sought to introduce evidence of Arbery's criminal record, records on his mental health and the fact that he was on probation. They also wanted to have a use-of-force expert testify. But the judge ruled against admitting any of that evidence.

“They'll argue that relevant evidence helpful to the defense was excluded by the trial judge and that was an error,” Carlson said.

It's also possible that appellate attorneys could find other grounds for appeal after scouring transcripts and jury instructions, and speaking with jurors.

Robert Rubin and Jason Sheffield, attorneys for Travis McMichael, said after the verdict that they plan to appeal. Sheffield said they had no second thoughts about trying the case in the community where Arbery was killed rather than seeking to move it elsewhere. But he said, “It could certainly become a part of the appeal.”

AREN'T THERE STILL FEDERAL CHARGES PENDING?

Yes. The McMichaels and Bryan still face federal charges.

Months before the three stood trial on state murder charges, a federal grand jury in April indicted them on hate crimes charges. It’s an entirely separate case that’s not affected by the state trial’s outcome.

U.S. District Court Judge Lisa Godbey Wood has scheduled jury selection in the federal trial to start Feb. 7. All three men are charged with one count of interference with civil rights and attempted kidnapping. The McMichaels were also charged with using, carrying and brandishing a firearm during a crime of violence.

The federal indictment says the men targeted Arbery because he was Black.

 

[GarAndTeed]

Miss Linda and the other members of the prosecution team will join CourtTV @8 tonight.

Thank you @sds71 !

 

[ilovewings]

I agree. I don't think any of us will ever forget seeing this young man killed and knowing his fear and pain in that moment on the street alone. Breaks my heart every time I think about it. This brings some small measure of justice. I keep hoping that one of these men will express some remorse, but I guess that won't happen.

I would not believe it if they said they were sorry--it is obvious from Travis's
testimony he has no remorse