GA - Ahmaud Arbery, 25, jogger, fatally shot by former PD and son, Brunswick, Feb 2020

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  • #81
Thanks for the correction. ^^^

That video was horrendous to watch. :(

Rest in peace, Ahmaud !
I am so sorry... you should have had many years of life left to live !

My condolences to his grieving family, and I hope they receive answers and see justice for their loved one !

JaxFlaGal has a much better post on the previous page about the neighborhood and a map! And then a subsequent post on that page about the route.
 
  • #82
Very happy to see these arrests. May justice be served and Ahmaud RIP.
 
  • #83
This was modern day lynching by firearm and should not be tolerated or accepted by anyone. The initial response by law enforcement was repulsive to say the least.

The McMichaels had no basis whatsoever to accost this man brandishing firearms. The backpedaling about observing Ahmaud in days prior "putting his hand down his pants" and thinking he may be armed is a stinking pile of BS. Seems the dispatcher sensed this was Trayvon Martin 2.0 when they asked what Ahmaud was doing wrong and if they witnessed him committing an actual crime.

Sadly, like many others, I've lost faith in our justice system as many unarmed men of color have been murdered, their killers walk free today. I do sincerely hope these cowards are prosecuted but know damn well they will never walk a main line. If they ever see time, they'll be PC'd for eternity with the child molesters.
 
  • #84
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation will have a press conference tomorrow at 9 AM and will stream it live on their Facebook page: Georgia Bureau of Investigation
 
  • #85
I can't tell you how many homes under construction I've poked around. Especially in New neighborhoods being built. Truthfully, I've also poked around old abandoned houses. I'm just nosey I guess.
 
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Hopefully these arrests were not made just due to public outcry.

Another thought:
How odd that GBI had such a different interpretation of what occurred than the DA. I firmly believe this was an ambush and arrests were more than justified. The DA needs to explain his decision not to charge these guys. The statements in his letter are disgraceful. IMO.

I guess they won't need to bring this a grand jury since they've already been arrested. Anyone know?

ETA I want there to be enough to convict these men of murder.
 
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  • #88
Sorry, I am not sure how there would be confirmation of the McMichael's or 3rd person's states of mind. Their words to 911, their coordinated action to trap a black man who was running on the street in the middle of the day in an armed ambush. Gregory McMaster's words in the 911 call and incident report make it clear they did not think the runner was in the process of committing a crime. He called 911 and reported that a black man is running on the street. The dispatcher tried to find out what the man was doing that was wrong. McMichael stated he'd looked in a house under construction. The dispatcher asked, are you saying there is a burglary in progress? McMaster said 'No. . . . It's open, it's under construction.' He knew it was not a burglary and said so to the dispatcher. The whole citizen arrest claim is belied by the 911. McMaster knew there was no crime that allowed a witness to make a citizen arrest. That justification came after Arbery was dead.

After the 911, when McMaster knew police had been dispatched, he got his son and friend, got guns, and set out in 2 vehicles to trap the black man who ran on the street. According to McMasters own words in the incident report his friend used his vehicle to box the jogger in from behind and the McMasters waited in their truck ahead of the runner. McMaster was in the bed of the truck, as if they were hunting, and Travis drove. As Arbery approached, Travis jumped out of the driver's side (left side) brandishing a shotgun. Arbery went around the right side of the truck, on the grass, to avoid Travis. Travis went around the front of the truck and got in close contact with Arbery. How the physical altercation started is not on camera. But clearly Travis McMaster initiated contact while brandishing a shotgun.

Maybe you have a more specific definition of a white supremacists than I do. For me, the belief that a black person has no right to run on a public street or that a white person has the right to detain a black person without cause, at gunpoint, and ultimately kill the person because was a black man running on the street they live on tells me it was racially motivated.

It doesn't matter to me whether the McMichaels and friend were hood-wearing members of the KKK or not. Their words and actions are clear that they felt entitled to control a black person's running route and he is dead because of that entitlement. In the end, there is no hate crime statute in Georgia so the race of the victim or perpetrators won't matter in state court.

The cronyism that derailed the investigation--accepting the white perpetrators words as a given despite having the video--smacks of institutional racism. In a criminal prosecution, the government is supposed to stand for the victim because dead people don't get to give their side of the story. So far Georgia has accepted the instigators word as fact, despite the 911 call and the video. Then authorities have been unwilling/unable to look into the death of an unarmed black man because of conflicts of interests. Those conflicts should have resulted in the DA and 2 prosecutors recusal of their own accord. Finally, after more than 2 months and public outcry generated by the McMaster's attorney's release of the video, a different DA will investigate and a 3rd prosecutor has been named. I hope the federal government steps in to investigate the death as well as the actions of the original DA and prosecutors as civil rights matters.

Agree 100 % Especially the bolded.
 
  • #89
Good to see I'm not the only one. A few-several?-times when my husband and I have been out walking, if no one is around I'll look in the window of a half built house. Maybe once or twice I've actually gone inside, usually when there is no door yet. My husband is usually standing back on the sidewalk saying, "Get out of there! What are you doing?" Same. Nosey.

I can't tell you how many homes under construction I've poked around. Especially in New neighborhoods being built. Truthfully, I've also poked around old abandoned houses. I'm just nosey I guess.
 
  • #90
Disgusting crime, I'm glad they have made arrests.
 
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  • #92
Following....

Does anyone have a link to the Glynn Count court records site? I couldn't find one...

TIA!

Justice for Ahmaud!
 
  • #93
I hope the federal government steps in to investigate the death as well as the actions of the original DA and prosecutors as civil rights matters.
Given the totality of the circumstances, I strongly agree with you.

My impression, however, is that misfeasance charges are very difficult to bring against public officials.

Malfeasance requires direct illegal conduct. Misfeasance has a broader definition and could include acts like willful obstruction or a willful refusal to take an action required by duty.

Then comes the possible hard elements to over come from a prosecutors point of view:

- Both DAs recused themselves from the case (one very reluctantly, but in the end he / she did ask to be recused). This would seem to limit misfeasance "Hey, I did the right thing-turned the decision over to somebody else"

- Technically one DA did not completely refuse to prosecute. "Hey, I did not say "no". But... based on the evidence you gave me today".... (wink, nod).

- Public officials of any type are not legally required to be competent. Thus, the "willful" part of a misfeasance charge can be even harder to prove. ("Ok, maybe I am just not a good officer, city manager, prosecutor etc. But... incompetency is not criminal")

My totally amateur opinion is that criminal negligence type charges would also be an uphill battle: "Well, our Constitution gives a lot of deference to the accused. So, that is what I did... ."
 
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For some reason, these articles brought tears to my eyes. I have been outraged and aghast and so heartbroken for his family, but this run, on this man's birthday, is the first time I have teared up. All those people in public, supporting justice, in such a meaningful tribute (I love that they are doing his last run, walking in his footsteps). Thank you for that article.

ETA - restores my faith in humanity, somehow
 
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  • #96
Just think, if his family had been silenced - we would never know.
IMO
 
  • #97
Is there a source indicating the bystander who video recorded the incident was part of the 'pursuit' with the father and son who were arrested?
 
  • #98
@Yamiche

@GBI_GA
Director Reynolds: We are investigating everybody involved including William Bryan, the third man who filmed the video of the shooting, tried to block Ahmaud Arbery with his own vehicle, and who has not been charged.
 
  • #99
Having watched the video several times, it looks like Arbery, coming around the front of the truck, took several steps toward the guy with the shotgun (and then grabbed the muzzle presumably) before the first shot was fired. McMichael does not appear to be blocking Arbery's way beforehand, ie, Arbery could have continued running straight ahead.

That being said, I don't think the McMichaels had cause to be executing a citizen's arrest. Idiots.
 
  • #100
@NewsShelby

Glynn County Jail confirms Gregory & Travis McMichael will make first appearance before a judge at 2 pm today
 
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