GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - #10

[dancinunderthemoon]

Seriously? yes Ive been following that, Hadn't heard about today's events, yeah, he's creepy, sold ALL of her stuff at auctions.....wonder if he owed RD money? private loan? I am familiar with all these locations, weird how they all murdered running in the same circles, what's the connection? besides money? Will check out the mCIVER site, interesting

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

HAS... WS wouldnt allow me to edit.........I guess he still owns it, may have sold it too

 

[Deleted member 162919]

Yup this case is going to remain cold for a long time. http://www.ajc.com/news/the-news/qX6u7X8rzZnjbJWt0KIIZN/

 

[Razz]

Seriously? yes Ive been following that, Hadn't heard about today's events, yeah, he's creepy, sold ALL of her stuff at auctions.....wonder if he owed RD money? private loan? I am familiar with all these locations, weird how they all murdered running in the same circles, what's the connection? besides money? Will check out the mCIVER site, interesting

This was talked about earlier in this thread I think.

I'm in a hurry but there was a young man who worked at the Ritz there on the property. He killed an older woman in her home. It wasn't SS territory but nearby. This was a year or so ago. I seem to recall he had been part of a gang. Strange. It should be in this thread. I will look for it tomorrow.

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[Lawdog99]

Razz, you are probably thinking of Lydia Ivanditti (Not sure on spelling). Found dead in Eatonton Home in Putnam County possibly December 2016. She once owned the Cashmere Lounge or Club and I believe I read on her WS thread that she and Shirley Dermond may have run in same art circle and played bridge together.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Yes that's the one....LI, RD, SD, RE agent, DM...and SS.........I saw a Cashmere club sign for sale at the antique mall in macon last week or two ago, weird to see that

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

WOW, was that our annual update? Yeah this pretty much went cold the year it happened.......btw, my whole screen looks different on WS, I can hardly maneuver, I posted something I at first thought was in a PM but later realized it was visitor messages, so IDK WHERE it went, I do not see it there now, use to you could post on someone's page as a visitor but I dont even know how to get to anyone's page now, i just clicked on visitor messages.....nothing else has changed on my computer but WS, very weird....keep me posted, oh ...tried to respond to your message and there was no reply button, jeepers,

 

[watcher9]

Hey watcher9, that video was 14 seconds long, but I remember it was the last bend in the river before the dam and LS, is that right?

I think the 14 seconds was for an ad. I just checked and it started up after the 14 seconds and then goes into one 2.55 seconds long.

 

[watcher9]

WOW, I just realized this location was at the end of his street......RD was seen walking by, at or on the golf course on Friday? that is weird, Carolyn Dr runs right into on of the greens and the clubhouse and pub is on that course where he was probably walking, said he liked to walk so probably right up this street onto the green and home again.............then the 2 marina's are right across the lake from him on the same side of the lake in putnam but I still think too much activity would be there for all these shenanigans but perps could have put in there, short distance to get to the D's then go down river at night and back up to the waterfront marina's near the D's..........Im guessing the cameras there, if any, SMH, have been viewed also?

THe other courses are not as easy acess when walking at thie one by the clubhouse......I've said before, WHO knows who was employed at any of the GW or RP venues or other

This was planned though I dont doubt and many times a murder is someone you know........but the beheading.........maybe to confuse everything, if it wasn't so neat at the crime scene and house I'd think a typical break in.........Grrrr

here's a map....147 Carolyn Dr is starred.......https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...1cbb7cd4b5c3b7!8m2!3d33.3979906!4d-83.2515058

AND I WAS THINKING EARLIER ABOUT AN INITIATION KILLING BY SOME GROUP/CULT......perps could easily be watching him all the time if they worked anywhere nearby esp since he did a lot of walking...wow

Location.......
Weighed down by a pair of 30-pound concrete blocks, her corpse bloated and surfaced facedown in 46 feet of water. By boat, the spot lies some five miles from her home, in a wide bend above the Wallace Dam.(fyi the bottom of the map river frontage is putnam, the other side is green county.)

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/news/local/crime/article30230859.html#storylink=cpy

The star wasn't there, but I plugged in 147 Carolyn and then plugged in Wallace Dam Road. Now I'm lost!

All this time I had been thinking that she was found up north above her home between the 278 hwy bridge and the I-20 bridge, but the map shows the Wallace Dam as being south of her home and the bend is between the dam and the Sparta Hwy rt 16. I did find the Lawrence Shoals landing right at the dam. It has what looks like a landing north of the dam and maybe another one south of the dam. How do the boats cross the dam?

 

[CherokeeOne]

The boats don't cross the dam, there is no lock or anything. You basically just don't get close to the dam.

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[Razz]

Razz, you are probably thinking of Lydia Ivanditti (Not sure on spelling). Found dead in Eatonton Home in Putnam County possibly December 2016. She once owned the Cashmere Lounge or Club and I believe I read on her WS thread that she and Shirley Dermond may have run in same art circle and played bridge together.

Started new thread (hopefully correctly):
"GA - Suspicious death of Lydia Huggins Ivanditti, 63, in Eatonton"
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-death-of-Lydia-Huggins-Ivanditti-Eatonton-GA

Very interesting. Dancingunderthemoon was very active in this thread.

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[dancinunderthemoon]

hahaha about the ad, duh....ill go back and watch it, haha, anywaya, yeah you dont cross teh dam with boats, no lock, that's why she couldn't have been trhown from the bridge too becase the wallace dam feeds sinclair so she couldnt' have come from that side on sinclair if thrown there,

WOW, just follow the river down south, there are other marinas but LS is SO QUIET, no one lives down there either........she was found a tthe last bend before wallace dam and LS, well up a bit but heading that way

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

hahahah, oh me. thanks

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Did ya;ll see the picture I posted of her Cashmere sign? That was creepy antique shopping in Macon adn there it was.........so sad......will check out thread.........to many weird deaths Lawdog, and all in this elite circle.........i still am curious about the RE agent that drowned 2 weeks after the D's, will have to look up her thread....that was ruled drowing but still odd that one

 

[Lawdog99]

Exactly Dancinunderthemoon, I just do not believe each of the deaths are not somehow connected. Too many connections between them. Have no idea and not the best sleuther but I do know when something is not right and something is not right...

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Even Lydia's death Lawdog........even tho they have her alleged killer

 

[Razz]

Even Lydia's death Lawdog........even tho they have her alleged killer

Why don't you think it's connected?
Maybe Mr. Cause and co. were involved in the D's murder.

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[dancinunderthemoon]

No ..didn't say that.....im susupicious of all of these being connected somehow... Lawdog used a double negative lol, and I was agreeing even LI.............AND I wonder if Dermond was closer to McIver than we know. probably farfetched but something is going on it seems

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

clothed................only less than 6 days when .....

 

[Lawdog99]

clothed................only less than 6 days when .....

Now Now Dancin, you lost me here...and I think they all knew each other. JMO This is my mind at work, you have this group of people that attend many of the same social functions, some play bridge together, some attend the same art functions, all connected around the same area, and possibly doing some type of business ventures together. Then out of this group, you have murders, maybe to much to drink and drowns in Lake, another - possible suicide. Now those are just a few commonalities I have drawn from this area. Obviously it is not what we know but what we don't know... Is there a class on sleuthing, I think I need one.