GA GA - Shirley, 87, & Russell Dermond, 88, Putnam County, 2 May 2014 - # 2

[gngr~snap]

See the link below:

It is not uncommon to be attacked and dismembered even by an 8 footer. These animals weigh hundreds of pounds and have terrific mechanical advantage in their jaws and tails. Imagine a 500LB pit bull with the agility of a cat.

It was said that the cars were parked in the garage, meaning the area might have been crowded, obstructed and impassible.

The gator could have been in the garage hiding beneath a car and then startled by RD or SD. Suppose RD confronts it, it is backed in a corner, gets panicky, lunges and crushes his scull. His heart stops, the gator then decapitates him and swallows his head. Meanwhile SD hearing the commotion tries to protect RD and is likewise attacked, and dragged to the water as a result.

Maybe the investigators are mistaking the tracks of a gator dragging SD away from the garage as being a body dragged toward the garage.

Was the garage door open or closed when the body was found? Does the garage door automatically close after a while? Yes there are security gadgets that do that for you.

Check for strange bodily fluids, run DNA testing. (takes weeks) compare lacerations to known species.

Maybe there is a bullet in SD, then that would be a different story, but this is so bizarre that you have to consider a person would not do this.

If the investigators are not at least considering this possibility and having DNR search for gators, they may be wasting their time looking for a two legged "drifter".


List of fatal alligator attacks in the United States by decade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What are the chances a gator is gonna luck up and behead a dead man laying in a garage?
AND abduct and kill the man's wife?

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[Carolinapeach]

Is there a link to the interview? thanks...

I feel sure they will post it. If I see it, I will bring it over. The fisherman interviewed (not Mr. Higgs) was devastated, IMO. Higgs' wife read a statement over the phone to the reporter and could barely get through it. I believe they said Mr. Higgs was too upset to give an interview at this time.

 

[Backwoods]

Maybe he just doesn't approve of the neighborhood and people who live in the surrounding area being told an alternate story of how Mrs. D was found.
Why not tell people the truth in the first place?



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I think every MSM report I saw said "a fisherman". Did anyone see MSM reporting the DNR found her? Maybe that was just the story out "on the grapevine" and he got worried...?

 

[Solitaryone]

If "no obvious trauma" to Mrs. D's body is true, I think we have to consider that perp may have thrown her overboard alive (oh, I hope not), that she may have had a heart attack or similar and died and thus became"useless" to the perp for any extortion/theft plan, or maybe perp/s had chloroformed her (or something similar) and they overdid it.

I was thinking that too. This is so horrific. I can only pray that both Mr. and Mrs. Dermond died quickly!

 

[Canaille]

Folks, unless I am mistaken, the "one clean slice" decapitation is still under the "RUMOR" category here -- didn't that come from a poster passing it on from an "unnamed source"? Even so, may well be true, but....

I'm puzzled by the middle of the lake vs. along the treeline thing, too. Wonder if Mr. Higgs let something slip that LE was trying to keep quiet...?

The way the reward is worded -- well, I'm not sure Mr. Higgs will get it, or all of it, anyhow. I don't blame him for not wanting to be thrown out of the running altogether, though.

But, will he split the reward with the other fisherman? I'd sure hate to see attorneys suck up that money if the two both want the reward.

 

[Destini]

Maybe he just doesn't approve of the neighborhood and people who live in the surrounding area being told an alternate story of how Mrs. D was found.
Why not tell people the truth in the first place?



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That's what I want to know. What would be the point of saying she was found in the middle of the lake if she was found at the tree line? Something about where she was found they don't want (who) to know?

That bothers me way more than him wanting the reward money, which I hope he gets BTW

 

[gngr~snap]

I feel sure they will post it. If I see it, I will bring it over. The fisherman interviewed (not Mr. Higgs) was devastated, IMO. Higgs' wife read a statement over the phone to the reporter and could barely get through it. I believe they said Mr. Higgs was too upset to give an interview at this time.

Can you even imagine coming up on a scene like that?
I'd be forever haunted.
I made the mistake of researching the subject and I still see the pictures in my head!
Ack!
Shouldn't have researched beheading either, I didn't look at pics this time.
Moo

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[gngr~snap]

I think every MSM report I saw said "a fisherman". Did anyone see MSM reporting the DNR found her? Maybe that was just the story out "on the grapevine" and he got worried...?

Come to think of it Sills doesn't want any perp to know where exactly she was found or what injuries she has. They use that lack of information when interrogating suspects.
Moo

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[Backwoods]

That's what I want to know. What would be the point of saying she was found in the middle of the lake if she was found at the tree line? Something about where she was found they don't want (who) to know?

That bothers me way more than him wanting the reward money, which I hope he gets BTW

I was thinking that maybe the spot along the treeline might be a clue (that LE didn't want the perp to know they had) of some kind toward identifying the perp.

 

[Canaille]

Reread my post, the alligator took its prey SD to the water where it is comfortable doing what alligators do. Heck my cat drags all kinds of live lizards and mice home to get my approval.

The damn alligator killed RD - IN THE GARAGE, then dragged SD to the lake. The investigators believed SD was walked off by kidnappers and mistook the tracks of SD's body dragged toward the lake/dock as RD's body dragged back to the garage.

This case is so weird that at some point (absent evidence of a man-made weapon) that you have to consider that a human did not do this. There is no logical reason to take a head (unless to eat it) and leave one body while taking the other (unless you intend to eat it).

You will remember that you read it here first when it turns out to be the case.

I think the direction of where either Mr or Mrs was dragged to/from will be told by the direction of the blood as well as the direction the grass blades are lying in.

 

[1&2&3]

Can we please stop talking about a gator? There is no way a gator is responsible for Mr. D's decapitation? Think about it - the circumstances reported would have been totally different! And why would Mrs. D. be missing too? She has been found now.

We all have different opinions, but this gator talk is absolute nonsense! MOO

 

[Backwoods]

I think the direction of where either Mr or Mrs was dragged to/from will be told by the direction of the blood as well as the direction the grass blades are lying in.

They may not have been dragged at all. May have been carried.

 

[Carolinapeach]

Can you even imagine coming up on a scene like that?
I'd be forever haunted.
I made the mistake of researching the subject and I still see the pictures in my head!
Ack!
Shouldn't have researched beheading either, I didn't look at pics this time.
Moo

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No, I sure can't. This poor man. Vietnam vet and has seen a lot but was trying to hold back tears. It was so sad.

 

[Solitaryone]

Since this case started, it's been very hard to not think about the Dermonds and what they must have went through. These people were bothering no one, living out their days in their home, and this is how their lives end? I sooo hope that we will hear that an arrest(s) have been made. I wonder what whoever did this is thinking and doing now?

 

[gngr~snap]

This is driving me bonkers ... no matter what theory you believe of what led up to the killings, the fact they left Mr. D in the garage yet took Mrs. D away & dumped her in the lake makes absolutely no sense. No matter if it was a serial killer, a vengeful neighbor/relative/friend/enemy, a random deranged/drugged person, what reason could there be to not leave Mrs. D there also??

IMO hesitation. The killer had a human moment took her with him on the boat and her life ended at some point after that.

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[luckygirl]

FWIW:
It was determined earlier that there are no gators in this lake.

 

[Destini]

Since this case started, it's been very hard to not think about the Dermonds and what they must have went through. These people were bothering no one, living out their days in their home, and this is how their lives end? I sooo hope that we will hear that an arrest(s) have been made. I wonder what whoever did this is thinking and doing now?

Sad to say they are probably getting a kick out of all the publicity and smirking and thinking how smart they are .... one word though, karma. I feel more confident than ever now they will be found, and they will pay dearly for what they have done to this sweet old couple. I have to believe that.

 

[Canaille]

Can we please stop talking about a gator? There is no way a gator is responsible for Mr. D's decapitation? Think about it - the circumstances reported would have been totally different! And why would Mrs. D. be missing too? She has been found now.

We all have different opinions, but this gator talk is absolute nonsense! MOO

And to the best of my memory, the gator wasn't mentioned as a suspect in MSM. So, therefore we can't sleuth him. :tongue:

 

[gngr~snap]

Actually there are two little islands out in the water by the dam and across from the boat ramp.
Icky map. Look straight below the G in GA.
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[1&2&3]

Since the FBI is working on this case, did they go to the lake with Sills?

I am so thankful she has been found. She could have identified the evil perps, so it was doubtful they would release her alive. The family does not have to live day to day waiting for that call about their Mama. Bless all the family and friends.