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Agreed, rather than CB lived there so must have done it.An excellent idea, particularly if it produced some actual evidence as opposed to the usual supposition
Agreed, rather than CB lived there so must have done it.An excellent idea, particularly if it produced some actual evidence as opposed to the usual supposition
're possibly incarcerated elsewhere, I'm sure it would have leaked.Is there really a gap in crimes/charges, like five years? Doubtful he was in some kind of magical remission. So where was he?
Married or partnered, with an in-house victim supply? Doubtful because she would have come forward, I'd think.
Incarcerated? That would be my guess. Under an alias? In an unsleuthed country?
In an unsleuthed country, carrying on as he always has, living on petty burglary and opportunistic deviance?
IMO he was busy somewhere.
JMO
Yes - let’s use the CB websleuths thread to sleuth about CB.I think we should turn towards finding any other crimes in Portugal that CB could have been involved in... as @johnlair already posted some. Could we dig deeper there?! That would be proper sleuthing imo
That's interesting. Is it based on anything reliable ?Yes - let’s use the CB websleuths thread to sleuth about CB.
The assault in Odeceixe in 2007 - German female in a household that was looking after a German exchange student. Man lurking outside & attack happened when a carnival was on.
The factors that ring a few CB bells - German people, German exchange student (NF vibes). It’s reported that CB liked to target places when football matches were on in the bars. Perhaps that method of attacking when a lot of people were out also extended to times like the carnival. The location seems a bit far out from where CB was known to have based.
European cup semi final matches were on the night Mm was abducted. If I remember rightly the Euro’s were on when Hazel was assaulted & another big tournament when Diane assaulted.
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The gap is more likely reflective of inadequate policing than it is with his level of offending. Diane’s rape for example, would never have been solved unless the BKA got involved.Is there really a gap in crimes/charges, like five years? Doubtful he was in some kind of magical remission. So where was he?
Married or partnered, with an in-house victim supply? Doubtful because she would have come forward, I'd think.
Incarcerated? That would be my guess. Under an alias? In an unsleuthed country?
In an unsleuthed country, carrying on as he always has, living on petty burglary and opportunistic deviance?
IMO he was busy somewhere.
JMO
The soccer was on 02/05/2007 - AC Milan v Man U.Yes - let’s use the CB websleuths thread to sleuth about CB.
The assault in Odeceixe in 2007 - German female in a household that was looking after a German exchange student. Man lurking outside & attack happened when a carnival was on. You have to wonder how KM could have been annoyed at GM for watching football when it wasn’t on 3 May.
The factors that ring a few CB bells - German people, German exchange student (NF vibes). It’s reported that CB liked to target places when football matches were on in the bars. Perhaps that method of attacking when a lot of people were out also extended to times like the carnival. The location seems a bit far out from where CB was known to have based.
European cup semi final matches were on the night Mm was abducted. If I remember rightly the Euro’s were on when Hazel was assaulted & another big tournament when Diane assaulted.
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Your first point about the BKA is true.The gap is more likely reflective of inadequate policing than it is with his level of offending. Diane’s rape for example, would never have been solved unless the BKA got involved.
One thing that peaks interest is the quietness from the Ocean club staff & the people staying in the apartments around the time. As far as I know there was a big push for interviews in 2020 & another in 2024 with those people but very little success.
I think he worked at the OC closer to the time than first thought
Yes, but it is difficult now, 18 years later.I think we should turn towards finding any other crimes in Portugal that CB could have been involved in... as @johnlair already posted some. Could we dig deeper there?! That would be proper sleuthing imo
I believe there was a UEFA cup semi-final match on evening of 3rd May 2007 , between Werder Bremen and Espanyol ..The soccer was on 02/05/2007 - AC Milan v Man U.
This forms a particularly awkward moment between JT and GM during the below reconstruction. Worth a watch that video.
The game on 02/05 May might have held interest for GM - champions league second leg between two giants of football.I believe there was a UEFA cup semi-final match on evening of 3rd May 2007 , between Werder Bremen and Espanyol ..
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Espanyol 2-1 Bremen (3 May, 2007) Final Score - ESPN (UK)
Game summary of the Espanyol vs. Werder Bremen Uefa Cup game, final score 2-1, from 3 May 2007 on ESPN (UK).www.espn.co.uk
However .. the point frank-cole was trying to make earlier was not to do with GM .The game on 02/05 May might have held interest for GM - champions league second leg between two giants of football.
I doubt he would’ve known about the Bremen vs Espanyol game. Perhaps Dumbarton were playing Huddersfield Town in table soccer but it would be of no interest to non-supporters of these clubs.
Honestly, I’m almost certain the only game GM would have had an interest in would’ve been AC Milan v Manchester Utd. Scots seem to like Man U, are the testimonials still played against Celtic?
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Opinion: Why Scotland has an affinity with United
Reds fans turned up in huge numbers to see Erik ten Hag's side, making it a special occasion.www.manutd.com
Have I arrived in a parallel universe where we believe a game between two obscure foreign football teams playing in a second-flight competition gives a green light for a sadistic psycho to go out raping.However .. the point frank-cole was trying to make earlier was not to do with GM .
It was more to do with what CB may have been aware of , and patterns in his ( CB's ) planning ..
It is indeed debatable if there is anything in the sports event / CB planning hypothesis ..Have I arrived in a parallel universe where we believe a game between two obscure foreign football teams playing in a second-flight competition gives a green light for a sadistic psycho to go out raping.
Does he only expose himself when the Minnesota Twins are playing baseball… and molestation, only when the Parramatta Eels face off against the Rabitos in the NRL.
Th only change to habits of the public to provide any cover for a rapist would be Milan vs Man U. Suggesting the game 2/5 would do anything is just contrived.
I think he was investigated more than once in regard to Inga.Yes, but it is difficult now, 18 years later.
It might be worth looking for any eventual news from that time (e.g. 2003-2007) with possible elements that we now know about CB (e.g. JC's case).
But some news from that time are no longer available or will be very difficult to recover.
And of course, there may be other offences that may have never been reported. In the Algarve, Germany (or Silk, or other places where he was).
On the other hand, in JC and Inga, he, coincidently or not, lived and roamed close by...Inga, he was really ruled out?! No body, no one with guilty verdict.
Wasn't the illegal search of his property in regards to Inga?I think he was investigated more than once in regard to Inga.
Each time it was concluded that there was nothing meaningful to link CB to her.
The chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been ruled out of an investigation into a missing five-year-old German girl.I think he was investigated more than once in regard to Inga.
Each time it was concluded that there was nothing meaningful to link CB to her.
That was Champions League, not UEFA Cup. UEFA Cup is played by the national teams.I believe there was a UEFA cup semi-final match on evening of 3rd May 2007 , between Werder Bremen and Espanyol ..
Have I arrived in a parallel universe where we believe a game between two obscure foreign football teams playing in a second-flight competition gives a green light for a sadistic psycho to go out raping.
No, IIRC the connection to IG was made after the Box Factory discovery. He had crashed his van 90km from where she disappeared the day before… and a theory started to emerge. I could be wrong but I think this was the sequence. As @Davieson said above, he has been ruled out of the IG crime.Wasn't the illegal search of his property in regards to Inga?