NOT GUILTY Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #6

[UK Girl]

Suggests to me that either he isn't party to this German evidence of murder, or he doesn't consider it to be evidence

It's pretty obvious though from the way he spoke in the JW trial that he has a lot of contact with OG. It isxalso obvious the German case seems to have fallen apart with not enough evidence to indict per HCW own words.

 

[RichardKimble]

It's pretty obvious though from the way he spoke in the JW trial that he has a lot of contact with OG. It isxalso obvious the German case seems to have fallen apart with not enough evidence to indict per HCW own words.

Is he effectively saying there is no evidence CB killed MM?.
The article from the BBC no longer contains the quoted extract but the Standard carries it.

Mr McCann said: “Madeleine’s been missing for 18 years, and the bottom line is, we still don’t know what’s happened to her.”
He said that there is “no evidence”, adding: “I don’t even mean ‘convincing’ evidence – there is no evidence to say she’s dead.
“Now we fully understand she may be dead, it may even be probable, but we don’t know that.”

Madeleine McCann’s father calls for greater scrutiny of UK media

Gerry McCann said his family were subjected to ‘monstering’ by sections of the press and are lucky to have ‘survived’.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[rvlvr]

Strange that those quotes have been removed from the BBC’s article?

Don’t the BBC usually put a note on their articles when they’ve been altered?

 

[Sharkbite]

Strange that those quotes have been removed from the BBC’s article?

Don’t the BBC usually put a note on their articles when they’ve been altered?

That's what I thought. The "quoted" was removed from the BBC article the same day it was published. Seems that the Standard might have created their story mainly from the original BBC article and it hasn't been edited to remove what GM was supposed to have said. I didn't hear GM say it in the interview.

 

[RichardKimble]

That's what I thought. The "quoted" was removed from the BBC article the same day it was published. Seems that the Standard might have created their story mainly from the original BBC article and it hasn't been edited to remove what GM was supposed to have said. I didn't hear GM say it in the interview.

Sky carry the quote as well.So it must have been said.

On the disappearance of his daughter, Mr McCann said: "Madeleine's been missing for 18 years, and the bottom line is, we still don't know what's happened to her."
He said that there was "no evidence", adding: "I don't even mean 'convincing' evidence - there is no evidence to say she's dead.
"Now we fully understand she may be dead, it may even be probable, but we don't know that."

Madeleine McCann's father describes huge toll of his family's 'monstering' by the press

Gerry McCann wants greater scrutiny of UK media. His daughter Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from the family's rented holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007.

news.sky.com

 

[UK Girl]

It was said in court also.

 

[Sor Juana]

How strong is the case against Brückner...
There is a lot of disturbing circumstantial evidence, but no confirmed forensic link to Madeleine. That’s why he has not been charged. The evidence found is strong enough to call him the prime suspect but not strong enough to charge him. Germany can declare someone a suspect and publicly state they believe the victim is dead without needing the level of proof required to charge them. The UK and Portugal cannot do that. They must stay neutral until they have charge‑level evidence. So Germany sounds more confident because their legal system allows them to speak more openly.

It feels now that the German police have moved into a phase where the searches are less about possibility and more about procedure. They’re not sweeping the Algarve in broad arcs or revisiting old ground for symbolic reasons. They’re turning up at very specific coordinates, clearly acting on intelligence they consider credible enough to justify the effort. You don’t drain a well or excavate a defined patch of land unless someone, somewhere, has given you a reason to look. The tone from their side reflects that shift. It isn’t exploratory, and it isn’t speculative. It’s methodical.

 

[UK Girl]

How strong is the case against Brückner...
There is a lot of disturbing circumstantial evidence, but no confirmed forensic link to Madeleine. That’s why he has not been charged. The evidence found is strong enough to call him the prime suspect but not strong enough to charge him. Germany can declare someone a suspect and publicly state they believe the victim is dead without needing the level of proof required to charge them. The UK and Portugal cannot do that. They must stay neutral until they have charge‑level evidence. So Germany sounds more confident because their legal system allows them to speak more openly.

It feels now that the German police have moved into a phase where the searches are less about possibility and more about procedure. They’re not sweeping the Algarve in broad arcs or revisiting old ground for symbolic reasons. They’re turning up at very specific coordinates, clearly acting on intelligence they consider credible enough to justify the effort. You don’t drain a well or excavate a defined patch of land unless someone, somewhere, has given you a reason to look. The tone from their side reflects that shift. It isn’t exploratory, and it isn’t speculative. It’s methodical.

They did say they had the evidence to go to court but now do not have the evidence for to get an indictment so what happened?

 

[RichardKimble]

They did say they had the evidence to go to court but now do not have the evidence for to get an indictment so what happened?

I think it was based on testimony from HeB, his evidence was found wanting in the sex assault trial.

 

[UK Girl]

I think it was based on testimony from HeB, his evidence was found wanting in the sex assault trial.

I agree

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I have a hard time believing they actually thought a German judge would find him credible or that anything he said was enough to take it to court.

I still believe they probably have something much more convincing than hearsay, but they just can't use it. Speculation/opinion only.

 

[frank-cole]

I have a hard time believing they actually thought a German judge would find him credible or that anything he said was enough to take it to court.

I still believe they probably have something much more convincing than hearsay, but they just can't use it. Speculation/opinion only.

Completely agree. The rhetoric change between being able to charge & not being able to charge fell either side of the court case. Thinking simply, the acquittals and more so the evidence deemed inadmissible, are the simplest explanations for the change.

I think it’s quite likely that the proof MM is dead is more concrete than the case they have against CB.

Status of CB isn’t intertwined with how strong the proof of murder is.

My opinion

 

[Lilly b]

Seems cb is a very solitary person. Doesn't appear to have any friends, also no one appears to be after him, because he knows too much, so totally suggests he acted alone, not part of any organised group imo

 

[Davieson]

Seems cb is a very solitary person. Doesn't appear to have any friends, also no one appears to be after him, because he knows too much, so totally suggests he acted alone, not part of any organised group imo

Well you know how it is, when locked away in prison for years on end, its easy to lose track of people.

 

[RichardKimble]

Seems cb is a very solitary person. Doesn't appear to have any friends, also no one appears to be after him, because he knows too much, so totally suggests he acted alone, not part of any organised group imo

Well you know how it is, when locked away in prison for years on end, its easy to lose track of people.

Basically who cares.