NOT GUILTY Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #6

  • #521
Well as it was through some tights it would have been hard to tell whether it was a birthmark or whatever...The fact is she saw it ...talked about it... Got fobbed off with no investigation of the Portuguese police... Talked about it again said she recognised his eyes .. turned out in the recent photos yes he does have a mark on his skin where she said..

I dont give a toss what this Uta says with her it was all a game of oh 20 years ago you described it like this ....or thats not the word you used 20 years ago... A pathetic system where the human gene of knowing is getting thrown out the window for a robotic what I have in paper in front of me...sorry on a computer.. its not just the law .. many workplaces are the same the human touch is getting 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on.

The toilet is dirty and needs cleaning 😉 yes but your not supposed to do it for another half hour..
Pathetic excuse for a judge who would happily let a known pedophile who has just been described by a specialist to be in the top tier of dangerous men alive walk... Why oh because someone described something a little differently than they did 20 years ago and the computer says no... Pathetic
Yes - Hazel is a remarkable person, who is inspiring & has worked tirelessly to support people of sexual crime.

The trick with these debates is that the shtick will forever be against the victim. I’d like CB inside forever. We will see a feigned appreciation & resolute rhetoric regarding Germany’s strict law about naughty words. The reason they do this is because they can pass off that they were “anti suspect” (because of naughty word trial). It’s because they want to dismiss victims by playing off that they follow the law “either way”. It’s juvenile. Expect that to change in a nanosecond if the appeals are successful or he gets convicted for Mm’s murder.’

Crystal ball works a charm. 😉
 
  • #522
Yes - Hazel is a remarkable person, who is inspiring & has worked tirelessly to support people of sexual crime.

The trick with these debates is that the shtick will forever be against the victim. I’d like CB inside forever. We will see a feigned appreciation & resolute rhetoric regarding Germany’s strict law about naughty words. The reason they do this is because they can pass off that they were “anti suspect” (because of naughty word trial). It’s because they want to dismiss victims by playing off that they follow the law “either way”. It’s juvenile. Expect that to change in a nanosecond if the appeals are successful or he gets convicted for Mm’s murder.’

Crystal ball works a charm. 😉
You are conflating crimes.

HaB underwent a terrible ordeal. She has been extremely courageous in her actions and her public appearances. Furthermore, I’ll say it’s possible, maybe even probable that CB was responsible for her rape. However, the judge found that the evidence against him was insufficient for him to be found guilty. It’s disingenuous to suggest that anyone is attacking or blaming her as a victim. Sometimes the evidence from the trial is raised as poor - which the outcome proves it was but no one blaming or dismissing HaB.

Can you please stop simultaneously calling people who disagree with you disrespectful things like “juvenile”? Doing so is displaying the behaviour you are trying to criticise.
 
  • #523
I admit to being a little out of touch. Has CB's trial for bad-mouthing a prison officer taken place yet and if so what was the sentence ?
 
  • #524
I admit to being a little out of touch. Has CB's trial for bad-mouthing a prison officer taken place yet and if so what was the sentence ?
I think he was found guilty and received a fine as a penalty. His inability to pay will mean an extended sentence.
 
  • #525
I admit to being a little out of touch. Has CB's trial for bad-mouthing a prison officer taken place yet and if so what was the sentence ?

I think he was found guilty and received a fine as a penalty. His inability to pay will mean an extended sentence.
Yes it was extended from what I understand. Instead of getting out in September, 2025, it will be February 2026.
 
  • #526
According this article , more court proceedings , July 2025 ( 15th I believe ) , Oldenburg .
Connected to further misconduct charges of CB while in prison .

 
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  • #527
According this article , more court proceedings , July 2025 ( 15th I believe ) , Oldenburg .
Connected to further misconduct charges of CB while in prison .


Actually - that article is dated May 5, 2025 - and it is referring to the hearing he had on May 15th - so nothing new....

AH - Read it thru - it does look like another offense by him - I'll put him on July 15th. Thanks!
 
  • #528
Obviously the German system doesn't have 'additional offences to be taken into consideration' like the UK system does.
 
  • #529
Actually - that article is dated May 5, 2025 - and it is referring to the hearing he had on May 15th - so nothing new....

AH - Read it thru - it does look like another offense by him - I'll put him on July 15th. Thanks!
As far as I remember the son of o b….. insult was in Oldenburg prison, so there must be another one.
 
  • #530
  • #531
Typical mirror the recent BZ article makes no mention of 12 months.

It's paywalled.

 
  • #532
  • #533
I am inclined to agree with the lawyer on this.
The BZ article refers more to his inability to pay fines which will keep him incarcerated.
 
  • #534

from the article:
Christian Brueckner, 48, has been ordered to appear before judges in the German city of Oldenburg on October 27 on charges of verbally abusing prison guards. The case comes just weeks after he was convicted of similar charges committed at another jail as prosecutors desperately continue to fight to keep him behind bars.

I guess it is not July 15th.
 
  • #535
  • #536
I am inclined to agree with the lawyer on this.
It does feel desperate.

Obviously CB is a bad criminal but is he that unusual that the BKA and prosecutors would go to such lengths to keep him locked up?

I’ve said it before that there is deep animosity between CB and the prosecution. Is this influencing their views on his connection to MM?
 
  • #537
It does feel desperate.

Obviously CB is a bad criminal but is he that unusual that the BKA and prosecutors would go to such lengths to keep him locked up?

I’ve said it before that there is deep animosity between CB and the prosecution. Is this influencing their views on his connection to MM?
A guilty verdict in the recent trials would have kept him in side for a considerable time, that must gall with the prosecution, they had the testimony of the expert lined up to condemn him as dangerous but the not guilty verdict put paid to that.The system allows for him to be free after paying his dues by serving the 7 yr sentence, if you can believe the article then it's clear that no charges in regards to MM will see the light of day imo, why else the seeming desperation to keep him locked up?


Question for @Hygge , is there a bail hostel system whereby offenders get reintroduced into the hustle and bustle of the outside world?
 
  • #538
Well maybe because he broke the Law.... Getting off on the rape charges and other related offences at the trial probably inflated CBs Ego making him feel untouchable to the Law therefore resulting in him fighting with guards... He deserves these extra charges..

Why is it when he gets off at the trial many are adamant that the Law was upheld and everything was above board and yet when he faces charges for genuine offences within the prison system he is contained for rape suddenly its a conspiracy to keep him in 🤔
 
  • #539
It does feel desperate.

Obviously CB is a bad criminal but is he that unusual that the BKA and prosecutors would go to such lengths to keep him locked up?

I’ve said it before that there is deep animosity between CB and the prosecution. Is this influencing their views on his connection to MM?
I think it started with MM and then they figured out other things. So I guess the animosity isn't influencing their views in connection woth MM but the other way round. BTW CB is a terrible, dangerous person, so it's good on the side of the prosecution to want to keep him away from the public the more possible. I don't think there is any real animosity, just looking at his record. Jmo
 
  • #540
Well maybe because he broke the Law.... Getting off on the rape charges and other related offences at the trial probably inflated CBs Ego making him feel untouchable to the Law therefore resulting in him fighting with guards... He deserves these extra charges..

Why is it when he gets off at the trial many are adamant that the Law was upheld and everything was above board and yet when he faces charges for genuine offences within the prison system he is contained for rape suddenly its a conspiracy to keep him in 🤔
According to the article, his lawyer said that other prisoners would have been dealt with internally, whereas in CB's case its going before a judge, so there seems to be some difference in how the law is being applied.
There's mention of one offence having taken place in another prison, so that could be an older charge from before his recent trial.
 

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