ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 41 *ARREST*

[caradana]

There are MSM articles interviewing relatives that so state.

Feeling sorry for the people who try and keep up the media thread here.

The ones with the ex-aunt describing schizophrenic orthorexia without realizing she’s doing it? Yea.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

House cleanup stoppage today came because of a "legal request from the court" per Chief Fry. MPD did not order it.

Edit: Added stoppage to state correct content.

Would they take jurors through there with it still so bloody? Too prejudicial or perfectly accurate??

 

[cottonweaver]

I'm so glad they caught him!!

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's Washington neighbors, witnesses react to grad student's arrest

Neighbors of Bryan Kohberger speak out after he is charged with felony burglary and four counts of murder for the stabbing deaths of Idaho students.

www.foxnews.com

BBM below
"Neighbors at the Steptoe Village, the WSU housing complex mostly inhabited by graduate or PhD students, among others, described the area as "quiet" and nestled in the city of Pullman, which is typically "so safe." "

Remember the Jack in the Box bag on the 1122 King kitchen table in one of the photos published on the DM and then Fox News IIRC ? And in prior threads there was discussion about how the closest Jack in the Box was in Pullman?
Here is a visual of how close the Pullman Jack in the Box is to the Steptoe Village student apartments where BK lived:

Steptoe Village Apartments to Jack in the Box

www.google.com

Was anyone on WS ever able to see the date and/or time on the Jack in the Box bag receipt? I can't remember.
Anyway, I wonder if BK first saw some or all of them in Pullman (could have been before 11/13), followed them to Moscow at some point, and remained fixated.
BK didn't live in Pullman for very long, only 3-5 mos depending on whether his lease started in Summer or Fall. Yikes!

here's the bag, for anybody who hasn't seen it (I already had the link open)

Google Photos

photos.google.com

 

[hopewell]

Wow. What an interesting hypothesis. Very little psychological or psychiatric research or any other research done on *this* subject. But there are data from non-American cultures about the impact of hunting on kids - it's not always easy for them to become hunters.

I hope we get a biography of this person. Or someone gets to study them in prison. It's the kind of thing I would love to do - too old now. Someone needs to do it. Frankly, criminologists and criminal justice majors should jump on it.

I'm going with schizophrenia onset w/paranoid/grandiose delusions w/homicidal commands in the last 6 months, and with prodromal signs (re:OCD/orthorexia, possible hard drug abuse) dating back to his mid teens.

My opinion.

 

[cheetostock]

Unless there’s a court order. Then, sites like ancestry/23 share (my understanding).
Edited for clarity/to remove typo.

I know 23andme will actively fight against relating to LE. It’s not easy to get data from them. They’ve released zero records since 2015 in the US.

Transparency Report - 23andMe

Statistics on the number of law enforcement agency requests for information received by 23andMe.

www.23andme.com

 

[Seattle1]

If they really did use genetic genealogy to find him, this would would be the first time it was used this early in an investigation.

Hence the unnamed source. FBI was surveilling BK for four days in PA prior to his arrest -- my bet is DNA provided the sample for a quick test. JMO

 

[concernedmother]

Nancy Grace hosting fox right now discussing this.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Thank you for this post!

Yes, I'm not Catholic either, but I sure appreciate the post. Not fair to his family, his faith, and not within TOS to bash Catholicism or his family.

 

[Deepinthought52]

Sounds like a narcissist MOO

Some similarities to PF…IMO

 

[Jealoushe]

Are there any tv shows tonight about this?

News Nation will have coverage, Law and Crime has some also. Both on their You Tube channels.

 

[Jinkasaurus]

Mary Ellen O-Toole weighs in at this early stage:

 

[CSIDreamer]

<snipped by me> BBM

Exacrly!

It might still be accessible. Who knows? Jmo

 

[SteveP]

there won't be a trial he'll plead out.

...and miss the opportunity for every gory detail of his deadly deeds to be known to the entire country? Besides, he surely is smarter than any of those who would be prosecuting him, so he isn't too worried about being convicted. This will go to trial. JMO

 

[Jealoushe]

Some similarities to PF…IMO

Flores?

 

[Friday Fan]

I'm so glad they caught him!!

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's Washington neighbors, witnesses react to grad student's arrest

Neighbors of Bryan Kohberger speak out after he is charged with felony burglary and four counts of murder for the stabbing deaths of Idaho students.

www.foxnews.com

BBM below
"Neighbors at the Steptoe Village, the WSU housing complex mostly inhabited by graduate or PhD students, among others, described the area as "quiet" and nestled in the city of Pullman, which is typically "so safe." "

Remember the Jack in the Box bag on the 1122 King kitchen table in one of the photos published on the DM and then Fox News IIRC ? And in prior threads there was discussion about how the closest Jack in the Box was in Pullman?
Here is a visual of how close the Pullman Jack in the Box is to the Steptoe Village student apartments where BK lived:

Steptoe Village Apartments to Jack in the Box

www.google.com

Was anyone on WS ever able to see the date and/or time on the Jack in the Box bag receipt? I can't remember.
Anyway, I wonder if BK first saw some or all of them in Pullman (could have been before 11/13), followed them to Moscow at some point, and remained fixated.
BK didn't live in Pullman for very long, only 3-5 mos depending on whether his lease started in Summer or Fall. Yikes!

Thanks for the reminder about the Jack in the Box bag. I still find it kinda odd.
MOO: JITB is not probably worth a 15 minute drive

 

[10ofRods]

To be honest, I don't think it would have mattered how well he is built. The victims were all sleepy, unarmed, exhausted and more than likely drunk. Even Ethan, despite his physical advantage, wouldn't be much of a threat in that state. Killer also had the first shot on the majority of his victims.

Honestly, for a criminal psychologist, this attack seems pretty stupid to me. I've said it since the beginning but this attack was so risky in either getting caught or for your own physical well being, it's the last place you'd hit if you want to "get away with it". Yet... he did it for some reason. I wonder if there's more. I'd be curious to hear what his motive is and whether there is more to this than meets the eye or if he is indeed incredibly stupid.

But it might have mattered to him. While virtually anybody is capable of an impulsive rage crime, I don't think this is that (at all).

If a person is trying to plan the perfect crime (and motivate himself to be a strong, manly man kind of person), they will work out. Pictures of this person over time show an overweight (slightly but visibly) teenager, who then slims down and then bulks up to some degree. HE thinks he needs to be stronger/use strength. I think a lot of killers think this way. They want to be strong, swift, etc.

So I do think it matters to the psychology of killers. He also chose a situation where the victims were most disadvantaged (so he is a coward, as stated by Mr G and IMO).

He's not a smart criminologist. He's a man who took 10 years after high school to get into a Ph.D program in criminology and then BLEW IT by killing people. If this is his first kill, I'll still stick by that. But I think his other crimes are lesser and so far undetected. I don't think he will a hardcore criminal record (so far, just a seatbelt violation).

Lots of academics lack common sense. And there's absolutely NO protection from a mentally disordered mind (many things can cause this). I don't think his main goal was not getting caught. The defiant, studied stare into the mug shot camera is unusual. I think it's aimed at someone - probably his family.

Motive is likely to be incomprehensible to everyone else and he will never take the stand. He's not stupid, he's disordered. Like many, many killers, too many to mention.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

Arresting him on the same day LE ordered cleaning that likely would destroy any evidence useful to the defense would look shady.

Did LE order the cleaning or were they just going to release the house and owner was going to have it cleaned?

It may be different everywhere but here in AZ, the house belonging to a close friend of mine had a horrible and atrocious crime occur inside of it. One the investigation was over, LE basically release the house back to her and it was thru victim services she found a company who specialized in cleaning up crime scenes; at which point she contacted & scheduled. She had to pay for it out of her own pocket though.

(((edited for spelling correction)))

 

[Jealoushe]

Has this been posted? (Probably a repeat but the thread has been moving so quickly....)



From:

https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/state/article270603182.html

I wonder if he would access to student information being a teacher?

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609010579158564864

No surprise -- AB trying to put clickbait words in BE's mouth i.e., "all the windows were broken" NOT!! BE states a window was broken (the peep window on the front door).

 

[Deepinthought52]

Can someone explain why it there is so much emphasis in media stories about BK that he was an ultra-vegan and a Libertarian? Do Libertarian vegans murder people often or something? I mean, seriously?

I wonder if that’s why the pup was spared. Not important, just curious…