IL - Lt. Charles 'Joe' Gliniewicz, 52, found dead, Fox Lake, 1 Sep 2015 - #5

[Woe.be.gone]

What is the case of the Kenosha guy?
I've looked but can't find the article or link to comments.
Also, are peeps thinking the Vernon Hills lady does know something?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Agree. He was still guaranteed his pension at least. So financially. The family should be okay.

Or sue the mayor for telling joe to stay on another month before he filled his papers.

Because im sure that joe had enough sick and vacation days to retire without having to work another day.

So the mayor may feel guilty. If he told joe to hold off from retirement.

Imo. The mayor doesn't want to be sued.

I'd still like to know the truth behind the reason Lt. G stayed on or not (was planning to retire at a later date). He hadn't filed papers yet anyway, right?
Could he have been asked to stay on if he was part of an investigation versus being asked to help investigate a situation involving other LE? Maybe he was the subject of an investigation.

That said, the Chief was allowed to retire despite an ongoing investigation.
Is it possible whatever it was being investigated pointed to the wrongdoing of Lt. G?

The retirement issue has three versions so, like a lie, seems suspect imo.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

What's even more interesting is the black male murder victim was found in a corn field. Kristin Kiefer originally claimed she had car trouble and stopped next to a corn field where she was approached by 2 whites guys and a black male. She of course reportedly changed her story when the police were about to test the interior of her car for Dna evidence. I wonder if she was anywhere near the same cornfield where the body was found?I wonder if her original "false" description of the black male matches up with Tywon A. The murder victim?
The suspected killer Andrew O. Will no doubt have his Dna taken. This might get real interesting..

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Is this the same lady (near Volo)?

Found some articles through Google.

 

[bluesneakers]

What is the case of the Kenosha guy?
I've looked but can't find the article or link to comments.
Also, are peeps thinking the Vernon Hills lady does know something?

Kenosha Co. Sheriff: Andrew Obregon “wants nothing to do with people right now”
http://fox6now.com/2015/10/12/kenos...on-wants-nothing-to-do-with-people-right-now/

I don't know about the VH woman. I think it was just a coincidence.

 

[TheDuchess]

I can't believe I just read though several pages of discussions around Mel having to give back money and the possibility of fraud when the coroner has not even released a MOD and the investigation is still open. Makes me really sad.


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[cady]

I can't believe I just read though several pages of discussions around Mel having to give back money and the possibility of fraud when the coroner has not even released a MOD and the investigation is still open. Makes me really sad.


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Are those three guys still out there? If you know, where are they? Is it true that a group of three murdered Gliniewicz? Is what he reported to dispatch a true statement? If it is not a true statement, was Gliniewicz death investigation based upon his statement? Was his hero's funeral based upon his statement? JMO..I believe the discussion was about possibilities. That's all. No?

 

[cady]

It is entirely possible that his widow had absolutely no knowledge of whatever he may have been worried about. That happens often. But she did state that she was his "rock" and that he was hers. And that he was her best friend. Perhaps he never worried his "rock" and best friend by sharing his worries, and never brought "work" stuff home, but since she called herself GIjane and was an advisor along with him to the Explorers, I have taken the liberty of THINKING that they shared police talk, and goings-on. If he had serious issues, I think that it is likely that she knew about them. JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Kenosha Co. Sheriff: Andrew Obregon “wants nothing to do with people right now”
http://fox6now.com/2015/10/12/kenos...on-wants-nothing-to-do-with-people-right-now/

I don't know about the VH woman. I think it was just a coincidence.

Thanks sneaks!
After reading several articles, I'm not sensing a connection between Lt. G's death and Obregon. Other than a general geographical area and month of September, what else connects the two?
Now, if either man left DNA behind in the area where Lt. G was shot, that would be another story.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

It is entirely possible that his widow had absolutely no knowledge of whatever he may have been worried about. That happens often. But she did state that she was his "rock" and that he was hers. And that he was her best friend. Perhaps he never worried his "rock" and best friend by sharing his worries, and never brought "work" stuff home, but since she called herself GIjane and was an advisor along with him to the Explorers, I have taken the liberty of THINKING that they shared police talk, and goings-on. If he had serious issues, I think that it is likely that she knew about them. JMO

No arguments from me - feasible imo.
ha! Either side of the argument is feasible.

 

[bluesneakers]

Thanks sneaks!
After reading several articles, I'm not sensing a connection between Lt. G's death and Obregon. Other than a general geographical area and month of September, what else connects the two?
Now, if either man left DNA behind in the area where Lt. G was shot, that would be another story.

I don't see it either. I think it's a lot of speculation but so far I haven't read anything that makes me think "Oh, that's why they're mentioning this case." And AFAIK there are a lot of corn fields in IL.

 

[Keefer]

Thanks sneaks!
After reading several articles, I'm not sensing a connection between Lt. G's death and Obregon. Other than a general geographical area and month of September, what else connects the two?
Now, if either man left DNA behind in the area where Lt. G was shot, that would be another story.

I am sure the task force is aware of this character and his Dna will be tested. Right now he is in the middle of being extradited back to Illinois. It could put Flienkos comments in a different light. We shall see.

 

[tcer114]

Thanks sneaks!
After reading several articles, I'm not sensing a connection between Lt. G's death and Obregon. Other than a general geographical area and month of September, what else connects the two?
Now, if either man left DNA behind in the area where Lt. G was shot, that would be another story.

I have no clue if they were involved but I would hope the task force rules them out due to description, location and timing. Somewhere I read that police would keep an eye out for something like this to happen in the weeks following the LTs death. I just hope they rule them out.

 

[tcer114]

I am sure the task force is aware of this character and his Dna will be tested. Right now he is in the middle of being extradited back to Illinois. It could put Flienkos comments in a different light. We shall see.

He is in Illinois and being extridited back to Wisconsin.

 

[Keefer]

I have no clue if they were involved but I would hope the task force rules them out due to description, location and timing. Somewhere I read that police would keep an eye out for something like this to happen in the weeks following the LTs death. I just hope they rule them out.

Why do you hope they rule them out?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Why do you hope they rule them out?

My hope is LE could rule them or him in!
That way, it may become clear Lt. G was murdered.
I'm not saying he was murdered but there was dna on the scene and/or on his body.
If the dna matches either guy (dead or alive), LE would have something new to work with.
As you point out, new forensic info from the outside would help us make more sense of why Filenko made a statement offering nothing really.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

He is in Illinois and being extridited back to Wisconsin.

Because Anderson's body was discovered in Wisconsin.
Therefore, those murder charges would be handled in WI.

 

[tcer114]

Why do you hope they rule them out?

Or in.....I would think they would want to check out their story. Make sure they weren't in the area when the LT was killed.

 

[Tillicum]

Does anyone remember one of the early press conferences when Filenko said they'd been contacted by Wisconsin in regards to the stolen car? It was within the first week IIRC but I can't find it now.

 

[MsFacetious]

I agree. Saying that the case would be closed by November says a lot to me. I mean if it's a murder, you don't just say: "Well, folks, it's a murder and we're done!" You wouldn't close it unless you had a murderer and that murderer went to trial and was found guilty, right?

However, if it were a suicide (or self inflicted accidental death), then they would close the case since they were not looking for a murderer.

At least that's how I look at it.

The other option I haven't seen mentioned.
If it was a homicide but the perp is now deceased.
Or if the perp is taking a plea to plead guilty.
Unlikely, sure but they are other explanations that could fit.

 

[vestigare]

Does anyone remember one of the early press conferences when Filenko said they'd been contacted by Wisconsin in regards to the stolen car? It was within the first week IIRC but I can't find it now.

It wasn't Wisconsin. It was Michigan.

http://www.abc12.com/news/headlines...hern-Illinois-323677181.html?device=phone&c=y