Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[cluciano63]

But if Kaine admits and agrees that Terri was acting in a deranged manner, he is saying that despite that, he did not intervene in her almost total supervision of two young children.

I think he is letting Desiree do all the talking, per his attorney. No reason for him to say anything, since she is willing. Terri's attorneys are listening and might jump on it if he was to say that Terri had been completely out of control, etc. and try to make Kaine look culpable for not keeping a mentally ill woman, i.e. away from the kids. I think he knew things were bad but never thought she would involve the kids or hurt them.

What I see from Desiree is confusing; she is seething with rage toward Terri, probably rightfully so, yet has somehow convinced herself that Terri is the best person to have "taken" Kyron. A defense mechanism, probably, as she refuses to let herself believe that Kyron is dead and therefore she has to believe that Terri is just playing some sick game. Maybe she is. But I just don't get why she would still be playing it. It has gone on too long. And I still don't get how there is anyone out there the FBI has not yet discovered to have been in Terri's life, yet is unaccounted for.

 

[human]

I think they feel that they have aired enough of their dirty laundry and the media has put lots out to see. What they have learned and figured out about Terri's issues are not for public consumption, I am sure they feel.

It won't help in finding Kyron, will it?

It will just satisfy the public's need to know.

 

[loves2bmom]

My heart is aching for these two. And when Desiree is asked about the recently released emails, well I am quite sure their are others here who know exactly what I am talking about... EVERY SINGLE HAIR ON MY ENTIRE BODY STOOD UP when Desiree spoke of the significance of certain emails and the details they contained, her entire demeanor changed and IMO to a demeanor of total fear and realization that whatever these important details which she states are very significant and directly involved in the investigation are NOT GOOD (IMO her quick change in her entire demeanor of such an evident drastic drop in her morale makes me feel as though something in those emails is "very telling" of something "very ominous") and then when she verbalized the sickness that was so apparent by her face it ONLY FURTHER CONFIRMED that what she knows is NOT GOOD for the outcome of her precious Kyron...

IMO this one subject brought about a demeanor, a feeling, and a realization of sorts that I personally have not seen from Desiree until today when this specific subject was brought up and discussed... It literally makes my heart hurt. Add in Kaines apparent pain and continuing unfaltering hope of Kyron coming home unhurt, unaffected and able to take his new backpack that Kaine has gone out and purchased to fill it with all the items on the 3rd grade school list in hopes that his son be there along with all the other children that will be at Skyline for their exciting first day of school...

Honestly it almost more than I can bear at this point and I am inclined to say that someone who were involved in this precious child's "disappearance" IN ANY WAY AT ALL, if they are able to watch what I just watched and come away unaffected NOT compelled to pour out any involvement or information leading to this child being found and brought home for these broken parents(dead or alive), whomever is capable of such I would be terrified to know they are currently walking the streets a free and "innocent" person. Because a person devoid of the emotion that this interview so easily and completely stirs within us as human beings, well that person is one helluva scary monster is all I can say... JMO

I agree 100% with you. I also wanted to ask somewhere but so many threads now....eeek....If TH supposedly does not have access to TV or internet (per the interview with J) then how is she supposed to see this. Will someone send her the interviews somehow...will this all fall on deaf ears?

 

[stmarysmead]

This made me sit up:

'Kyron saw it all, was involved." (Desiree in discussing the White Truck...end of interview)

I'm beginning to believe that this is the crux of the whole matter. Kyron "saw it all"...something he shouldn't have. Something Terri, DeDe and others were involved in. Something they were afraid he's tell his LE StepDad if he went away with him for the weekend.

Terri was involved in something. I think LE knows about it now. This is what they want Terri to talk about.

Maybe something like Bodybuilding drugs that are illegal but Terri could rationalize that they shouldn't be. Kyron found out. LE and Kaine and Desiree want her to tell them who else is involved...because they really beileve Terri only agreed to "stash" him.

"Kyron saw it all..was involved."

I think that WHAT Kyron SAW is the "Elephant in the Living Room." This is what they are all "talking around."

 

[joeskidbeck]

Which article is it please?

Sorry, I forgot to link the article. Here it is:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

 

[matou]

Kaine had no clue Terri was unhappy. Desiree had no clue Terri was unhappy.

But Kaine has said how he and Terri have had their rough patches in recent times, and that they've discussed separation and divorce. In those conversations, was Terri not saying what she was unhappy about?

And Desiree. I was so surprised when she said she had no idea that anything was wrong, and no idea what Terri is angry about. What about those emails? The ones she said that Terri wrote to her, long emails, full of complaints, about Kaine and about "everything"?

ETA: my interview references may be for other videos and I may well be in the wrong thread again lol.

Exactly, Desiree can't say she didn't know anything was wrong between Terri and Kaine. It's possible she dismissed these emails at the time as just petty complaints. I also thought I read that Terri sent her emails complaining about Kyron too.

 

[loves2bmom]

BBM

Did she say "a" truck, or "the" truck?

If she said "a", then that is most interesting! Also interesting if she said "the"!

She said TERRI's truck...then there was some uncomfortable laughter and Desiree corrected it with "you mean KAINE's truck"

 

[loves2bmom]

Good catch, it's at the end of the second part. It sounded to me like the reporter had heard that info too. Kaine said it was a tip, and that the veracity of the tip still has to be fully determined. So someone says that Kyron was seen by the truck with an unknown person maybe in the truck. Desiree said that if true it would contradict Terri's timeline (did she send him out to the truck while she was inside?) and that it means Kyron saw stuff that he shouldn't have (maybe she just meant Kyron being around an unidentified person).

Here is the link to part 2:

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

Edit: Desiree asks why would Kyron even be outside the school, near a truck with somebody else in it. She says if the timeline plays out the way it supposedly did then it contradicts Terri's story. Kaine says they've been briefed on tips and until it's been confirmed and brought to the public he's not going to maintain a sense of false hope that it's real info, until LE says it's airtight.

I think this is the most significant interview yet. THANKS Chili for finding part 2!!!!!!

 

[daisy7]

Thanks, PattyG, for posting Part 2 of the KATU interview.

http://www.katu.com/home/video/101702718.html

 

[mmmagique]

I agree 100% with you. I also wanted to ask somewhere but so many threads now....eeek....If TH supposedly does not have access to TV or internet (per the interview with J) then how is she supposed to see this. Will someone send her the interviews somehow...will this all fall on deaf ears?

I personally don't believe Terri doesn't have access to tv or internet. That would KILL her. All those people talking about her, the fanatical ones running that facebook page, all those blogs, all those reports...

I believe she not only reads those things, but responds to some of them. I would bet real money that if her attorney knew half of what she gets up to (what I believe she gets up to) he would dump her faster than a cheap prom date...

 

[BeanE]

White truck transciption

Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27 pt.2
Video: http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horma...-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

-2:50

Chit chat from reporter in the beginning not included. Only what's needed from her for context.

Reporter: Potentially one person in the truck... three people... the white truck, Terri's truck... can you talk...

Desiree: (interrupts) Kaine's truck (laughs)

Reporter: a little bit about that...

Reporter: Kaine's truck. I'm sorry... What are your thoughts on that new information? Do you feel as though Dede was in that truck?

Desiree: (interrupts) It just makes me feel stronger that, that there were people helping her... that Kyron saw it all and was involved and that there were other people helping her... which is what we suspected.

Reporter: So because... but do you believe that a man was spotted? I mean again, these are witness accounts, and I don't know how much information that you've been privy to about what the, what is the likeliest scenario?

Desiree: Well first of all, why would Kyron even be outside the school? Why would he even be near a truck with somebody else in it?

You know. I mean it's significant in a huge way to the case. If the timeline played out the way that it supposedly did? That contradicts that completely.

So I mean, other than that (shrugs), that's how significant it was to me.

Reporter: How authentic do you think that witness is? I mean how...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side) Very authentic.

Reporter: So it's a credible...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side and down) Yep.

Reporter: ...witness.

Reporter: And what exactly are they claiming that they saw?

Kaine: (audibly sighs/intakes breath, clears throat)

Kaine: Well I think, Sarah, I think to be more direct about it... I think that law enforcement needs to determine that still.

Desiree: Yeah, that part.

Kaine: We've been briefed on a lot of the information and the tips and the things that they're looking into, and that was part of that bucket of tips that they're...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...that they're working their way through. Until they confirm and until they bring some of that information forward to the greater public, they're still looking into it, so I think us commenting on that is a little bit premature.

There's how we feel about it...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...and then there are the facts. And the facts...

Reporter: (interrupts) How do you feel about it?

Kaine: How do I feel about it? I feel it's definitely significant. I don't know how credible the sources are. I'm hoping that they are because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture, but until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is air tight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it.

Desiree: Yeah.

 

[ami]

Another thing that was reinforced for me:

Kaine doesn't believe ANYthing without evidence. Even when Desiree was moved to speculate (Kyron at the truck), Kaine was staunch: it's not airtight, I don't believe it yet.

Therefore...

I believe whatever LE showed him about the MFH, it was real, big, and not hearsay. Whatever evidence they have about Terri, Kaine has seen it and believes it. Not rumors or wishy-washy false identification of the lawnmower guy's truck and mistaken identities, but something more real and believable.

The emails: we haven't seen the ones Desiree was talking about. When asked about the emails she was horrified and said what they said/implied was "sickening". We haven't seen those. Kaine jumped in and said "the ones that were released" were pointless, didn't lend anything to the discussion and he seemed to imply Terri herself released them to bolster her own case. Therefore IMO whatever emails made Desiree break down and describe as 'sickening' were ones we haven't seen.

I think Kaine was talking about the suggestion in the released emails that Kyron was having seizures - that someone in Terri's group released those emails to plant seeds of doubt and suggest that Kyron might have just wandered away forgetfully. JMO.

 

[STEADFAST]

I started a thread for Desiree asking why Kyron would be near a truck. Didn't want what might be significant info and discussion re same to get lost.
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112976"]Kyron Seen Near Truck? Could This Be New Info? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[Emma Peel]

Is this the same woman who had an incredibly expensive wedding in Hawaii. A red mustang purchased for her by a husband. A woman who got to do whatever she wanted to do all day long , including going to the gym daily that provided daycare?

A woman who had nice vacations such as 2 trips to Disneyland and Disneyworld and Israel?

Is this the woman who sent her son to live with the father who she said had meth issues and AIDS (although he somehow miraculously recovered?)

Terri's issues didn't start with Kaine. They appear to have been going on for years.

Yes! The very same! No arguments there - in fact, thanks for helping me make my point.

 

[ami]

Re: the emails.

D: some of the emails were concerning to me. They're significant in the case; I can't really talk too much about content or anything of that nature but it wasn't a surprise I don't think to any of us, because we know how much Terri relies on her computer and interactions with emails and things.... it just, some of it, the content is... um... concerning. Very.... I can't even put a word to it... just makes me sick to my stomach.

K: I haven't looked at all the ones released... the ones I have seen, I don't understand why they've been released, I don't understand why they're in the news. The fact that they were emailed by Terri is the only reason that I can get from other people as to why they're out there. They don't do much, they don't say anything other than people releasing or leaking information so that they can get it on the news. I would like to know who's releasing those; I mean they really have no business doing that in the first place, and I think it's just a distraction... something that once again puts the spotlight on her... I think it's an attention thing... I think it is completely intentional, and in my mind it is completely unnecessary. There is no need to have that stuff out there, it doesn't really further anything...

 

[debs]

Another thing that was reinforced for me:

Kaine doesn't believe ANYthing without evidence. Even when Desiree was moved to speculate (Kyron at the truck), Kaine was staunch: it's not airtight, I don't believe it yet.

Therefore...

I believe whatever LE showed him about the MFH, it was real, big, and not hearsay. Whatever evidence they have about Terri, Kaine has seen it and believes it. Not rumors or wishy-washy false identification of the lawnmower guy's truck and mistaken identities, but something more real and believable.

The emails: we haven't seen the ones Desiree was talking about. When asked about the emails she was horrified and said what they said/implied was "sickening". We haven't seen those. Kaine jumped in and said "the ones that were released" were pointless, didn't lend anything to the discussion and he seemed to imply Terri herself released them to bolster her own case. Therefore IMO whatever emails made Desiree break down and describe as 'sickening' were ones we haven't seen.

I think Kaine was talking about the suggestion in the released emails that Kyron was having seizures - that someone in Terri's group released those emails to plant seeds of doubt and suggest that Kyron might have just wandered away forgetfully. JMO.

Except he used the term "reason to believe" on the RO. I have reason to believe a lot of things, "but without confirmation" I just don't know. He didn't put "I just don't know" on the RO.

 

[debs]

bbm

I do not see TH as "a woman scorned"...at all. She willingly jumped headfirst into this muck with her own child in tow...breaking up a marriage, shacking it up with the husband, etc.

Kaine repeatedly states his marriage to Desiree was over when he began dating Terri. She did not break up a marriage, though the act of beginning a relationship with a man still married falls into a moral quagmire. But let's not make that all Terri's fault. We don't know why Desiree and Kaine were done, and we don't know why Terri and Kaine began. There's only one common denominator, though. Kaine.

 

[BeanE]

Another thing that was reinforced for me:

Kaine doesn't believe ANYthing without evidence. Even when Desiree was moved to speculate (Kyron at the truck), Kaine was staunch: it's not airtight, I don't believe it yet.

To me, Kaine is just beginning to realize he needs to step back from Desiree's emotionality, and look at things more objectively, so as not to confuse speculation with fact. It's a good step for him. I'm gonna bet his therapist, his attorney, and LE have all guided him to that place.

I think when LE told him whatever they did about the MFH, it was an emotional striking by lightening to him, and he went a wobbly there for a bit, but I'm glad to see that he seems to be taking a better hold on things.

 

[eyes4crime]

Thank goodness Kaine doesn't integrate every tip into the scenario of missing Kyron. Kaine is an engineer and he solves problems for a living. Kaine KNOWS that his ability to solve problems is only as good as the information he gets. Thank goodness someone is keeping tips to just that - tips!

This case is filled with false information and imo that's why Kyron has yet to be found. So good for Kaine for trying to keep this case on track with facts. moo

My heart breaks for Desiree - she is clinging to any information that would put Kyron as alive - anything that supports her theory/wish is acceptable. Unfortunately, in this case of missing Kyron, facts/accuracy and not theory/hearsay/gossip/unsubstantiated tips is what will find Kyron.

I get the feeling that if LE ever finds that someone else is responsible, such as a child predator, Desiree won't believe it. She seems positively set in her theories. moo

I'm worried about the two of them. Kaine looks sick, has lost weight. Desiree is grasping on to any and all information that supports her theory and when it doesn't, she gets visually frustrated and almost hateful. Kyron's upcoming birthday and the beginning of the school year will bring out even more sadness for Kaine and Desiree. Every aspect of this case is terribly sad. moo

To clarify: Of course Desiree wishes that Kyron is alive, and is certainly entitled to hope/dream/wish and to choose supportive pieces of info. to support that wish. But this is not going to find Kyron. moo mho

 

[SurfieTX]

A few of my observations:

1. LE is using Desiree to pressure Terri and DeDe.
2. When LE initially searched Terri's computer and phone(s), they found emails and texts that were VERY incriminating. I suspect that is when Terri became their focus. LE just must have just recently shared some of those emails with DY and KH.
3. Kyron was aware of whatever it was that Terri was doing or involved in.