MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019

[oviedo]

Family fears foul play involved in disappearance of grandmother missing 40 days from Massachusetts home

I guess the surrounding homes don't have ring doorbells or cameras? JMO

 

[muppethead]

I guess the surrounding homes don't have ring doorbells or cameras? JMO

Police did go door to door to solicit this information but no one has come forward to say they saw anything and the police have not said they saw anything on any video.

 

[Occam's Zebra]

Sandra has two sisters and a brother, as well as a brother who died quite some time ago. (This is according to her father's obituary.)

A dog with no water could mean she'd been gone for quite some time. Our dogs take care of their food almost immediately, but not the water. With the a/c on, it should not have been super hot inside so no need for extra water intake.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

yep, we discussed this a bit and learned some dogs finish their water bowls and some do not. Personally, I have never see an empty water bowl in my house. True, I have 4 water bowls inside and 2 outside, but my dogs never finish them all, plus I wash and fill them every morning. It would take several days (maybe 4-5?) for my dogs' water bowls to be empty. So I thought it was odd, but others did not. Shrug. Just like the discussion of why she didn't have a cell phone. Some do, some don't.

Maybe the water bowl was tipped over in a struggle? I hate to make suggestions that then take on a life of their own, but it's possible.

 

[unknown402]

Edit: my phone did not show the new posts! No need to bump I guess

 

[Suglo]

Bump!

 

[Elainera]

Security footage shows Sandra getting out of the car and going into a Cumberland Farms to buy cigarettes, after which she was taken home.

There is no evidence that Sandra, her shoes, or purse, ever made it back to the house after Cumby's.

Aren't these two statements contradictory? Or am I reading them wrong?

And why are her shoes mentioned?

 

[acutename]

The Night Watchman said: ↑
Security footage shows Sandra getting out of the car and going into a Cumberland Farms to buy cigarettes, after which she was taken home.
The Night Watchman said: ↑
There is no evidence that Sandra, her shoes, or purse, ever made it back to the house after Cumby's.

Aren't these two statements contradictory? Or am I reading them wrong?

And why are her shoes mentioned?

If she never returned from CF, her back door was open all day? Normal?

I think the shoes are mentioned because if she did make it back, it seems that she
left again. Maybe she would typically take her shoes off in the house and her daughter knew that ?

 

[rob68]

Whoever dropped Sandra off at home after buying cigarettes needs to come forward and confirm that they dropped her off and she went in the house and everything seemed normal. Otherwise, by not doing this they are casting suspicion on themselves.

 

[acutename]

Whoever dropped Sandra off at home after buying cigarettes needs to come forward and confirm that they dropped her off and she went in the house and everything seemed normal. Otherwise, by not doing this they are casting suspicion on themselves.

for some reason, this person is not identified in the news, but the person also drove the children home. the family and LE knows who this is. wonder if the mechanics first tried to call SC about the car parts and got no answer. also wonder how far ahead one cuts up watermelon for kids. the night before? early morning?

 

[rob68]

for some reason, this person is not identified in the news, but the person also drove the children home. the family and LE knows who this is. wonder if the mechanics first tried to call SC about the car parts and got no answer. also wonder how far ahead one cuts up watermelon for kids. the night before? early morning?

Mechanic was instructed to call the daughter. Yeah, kinda weird to cut up watermelon on Wednesday for kids she wasn't going to babysit again til Friday...but then she might not have cut it up til Thursday because we don't know exactly when she went missing. Daughter was not alarmed enough by Sandra not answering the phone to go over there Thursday. Let's also not forget about the wooden bed frame slats being knocked to the floor and the boxspring/mattress in disarray.

 

[The Night Watchman]

Aren't these two statements contradictory? Or am I reading them wrong?

And why are her shoes mentioned?

Yes, the statements are contradictory. It keeps getting repeated by the media that she made it home, but no evidence has been shown to verify this. So it can't be assumed she made it back from Cumby's.

I think the shoes are mentioned simply because the daughter pointed this out, and there is so little else to report on. It suggests that Sandra would wear one set of shoes most of the time. So if the shoes were found in the house and Sandra wasn't, that would be highly suspicious. No shoes and no Sandra suggests that when Sandra left the house for the last time, it was voluntarily.

It would not be a typical money or drug related robbery, if part of the plan was to make Sandra disappear. Getting rid of a body usually means deeper motive, or a more complex coverup, IMO.

 

[detectorhector]

Yes, the statements are contradictory. It keeps getting repeated by the media that she made it home, but no evidence has been shown to verify this. So it can't be assumed she made it back from Cumby's.

I think the shoes are mentioned simply because the daughter pointed this out, and there is so little else to report on. It suggests that Sandra would wear one set of shoes most of the time. So if the shoes were found in the house and Sandra wasn't, that would be highly suspicious. No shoes and no Sandra suggests that when Sandra left the house for the last time, it was voluntarily.

It would not be a typical money or drug related robbery, if part of the plan was to make Sandra disappear. Getting rid of a body usually means deeper motive, or a more complex coverup, IMO.

The kids were in the car, so they could probably verify that their grandmother got dropped off at her house.

 

[detectorhector]

Mechanic was instructed to call the daughter. Yeah, kinda weird to cut up watermelon on Wednesday for kids she wasn't going to babysit again til Friday...but then she might not have cut it up til Thursday because we don't know exactly when she went missing. Daughter was not alarmed enough by Sandra not answering the phone to go over there Thursday. Let's also not forget about the wooden bed frame slats being knocked to the floor and the boxspring/mattress in disarray.

I read that the bed frame slats were moved. Did one of the articles say they were knocked to the floor and the mattress was in disarray?

 

[PommyMommy]

I read that the bed frame slats were moved. Did one of the articles say they were knocked to the floor and the mattress was in disarray?

'We just want answers' -- Hanson woman still missing after 5 weeks
“All the lights were on. The air conditioner was on. I walked to the back door, it was unlocked,” McMahon said. “The dog didn’t have any food or water. Nothing really seemed too out of place other than that all the bed boards were off. It appeared someone lifted the mattress.”

 

[oviedo]

'We just want answers' -- Hanson woman still missing after 5 weeks
“All the lights were on. The air conditioner was on. I walked to the back door, it was unlocked,” McMahon said. “The dog didn’t have any food or water. Nothing really seemed too out of place other than that all the bed boards were off. It appeared someone lifted the mattress.”

and this to me is very odd IMO. Something happened - but what?

 

[PommyMommy]

and this to me is very odd IMO. Something happened - but what?

My immediate thought is that there was a struggle but IIRC, LE doesn't seem to think so? MOO

 

[oviedo]

My immediate thought is that there was a struggle but IIRC, LE doesn't seem to think so? MOO

I wonder if they dusted for fingerprints - the door, the bed, the bedroom door etc? at least that may help determine if no one else was possibly there? I don't know this is a weird one IMO. She's obviously missing - I'm assuming they have checked her debit and credit cards but if they aren't treating it as a crime, maybe not? JMO

 

[meanmaryjean]

'We just want answers' -- Hanson woman still missing after 5 weeks
“All the lights were on. The air conditioner was on. I walked to the back door, it was unlocked,” McMahon said. “The dog didn’t have any food or water. Nothing really seemed too out of place other than that all the bed boards were off. It appeared someone lifted the mattress.”

My thought was not a struggle but someone looking for something. Something valuable- and perhaps not monetarily valuable.

 

[PommyMommy]

I wonder if they dusted for fingerprints - the door, the bed, the bedroom door etc? at least that may help determine if no one else was possibly there? I don't know this is a weird one IMO. She's obviously missing - I'm assuming they have checked her debit and credit cards but if they aren't treating it as a crime, maybe not? JMO

Yes, they've checked banking activity - there's been none. I hope they fingerprinted but they are saying they have nothing... MOO

My thought was not a struggle but someone looking for something. Something valuable- and perhaps not monetarily valuable.

Yes, could be that too. MOO