Malaysia airlines 370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #25

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Snipped by me to highlight points made in article.


MH370's resting place nearer Indonesia, investigators say
BTN News Friday, 06 May 2016
The search for the missing Malaysia Airlines B777 MH370 that mysteriously vanished more than two years ago on March 8 2014, could end as it began, with nothing.

United States-based author and investigator Jeff Wise says an unpublished new document from the French government indicates the plane could have come down closer to Indonesia in the north.


Wise says a report from the French meteorological agency determined a flaperon (believed to have been part of MH370) shows that, due to the extensive growth of marine organisms known as lepas on the flaperon, the debris fragment could not have drifted to Reunion from the current search area — but instead came from a site farther north, near Indonesia.

The findings agree with a new computer analysis by mathematician Brock McEwen, that shows that based on drift patterns of the flaperon and other likely MH370 debris fragments, the likely final resting place of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane is considerably north of the search area known as 'The Seventh Arc'.


http://www.impactpub.com.au/micebtn...ting-place-nearer-indonesia-investigators-say

The above bbm, is what most of us have thought all along. With only a handful of weeks left until the search comes to an end, I really wonder if they will ever find this aircraft!
What I keep hoping for is more debris to shift, drift, and be found washed up on one of the islands. Hopefully suitcases, cushions etc. will eventually wash ashore and provide more clues.
I really feel for these poor families who are still looking for answers and some hope for closure.

I have always thought that they were searching too far down. If the plane were seen at a low altitude going over the northern tip of Malaysia and again on the horizon from the Maldives and Pulau Islands, it would have been burning up the fuel at a much faster rate and therefore could not have gone as far as was projected.

I hope they will find the plane soon and prove me wrong.
 
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Maldives.
My pet theory for the majority of this mystery.
I still believe the crash site is not far from that area.

IMO


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I have always thought that they were searching too far down. If the plane were seen at a low altitude going over the northern tip of Malaysia and again on the horizon from the Maldives and Pulau Islands, it would have been burning up the fuel at a much faster rate and therefore could not have gone as far as was projected.

I hope they will find the plane soon and prove me wrong.

I'm still waking up, there is so much to take into account. Kate also saw the plane. I still feel the Tomnod images should be taken in to account, especially since we know the flaperon was not floating on top of the water. I wish I knew if anyone has made a map of the sightings with the tomnod locations.

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Following the announcement of The Federal Budget 2016, which revealed that no additional amount was added to the $19.4 million budget for this year, Australia's Transport Safety Bureau confirmed on May 4 that the investigation will end in eight weeks.:notgood:

http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/artic...ation-coming-to-an-end-due-to-funds/44026.htm

It's a shame of course, but fair enough I think. This search must have crippled Australia's budget and I'm not totally convinced they're looking in the right place anyway. Looks like this one will end up consigned to the "unsolved" pile.
 
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This would be the Rolls Royce cowling from the engine and the interior piece from the cabin.

Malaysia's government said Thursday that two more pieces of debris, discovered in South Africa and Rodrigues Island off Mauritius, were "almost certainly" from Flight 370

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...rtainly-from-flight-370/ar-BBsWJug?li=BBnb7Kz

I found pics

Malaysia: 2 More Pieces 'Almost Certainly' From Missing Plane MH370
Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said the two new pieces were an engine cowling piece with a partial Rolls-Royce logo and an interior panel piece from an aircraft cabin — the first interior part found from the missing plane.

An international team of experts in Australia who examined the debris — found in South Africa and Rodrigues Island off Mauritius — concluded that both pieces were consistent with panels found on a Malaysia Airlines' Boeing 777 aircraft, Liow said.

"As such, the team has confirmed that both pieces of debris from South Africa and Rodrigues Island are almost certainly from MH370," he said in a statement.

All five pieces have been found in various spots around the Indian Ocean. Last year, a wing part from the plane washed ashore on France's Reunion Island. Then in March, investigators confirmed two pieces of debris found along Mozambique's coast were almost certainly from the aircraft.

A comparison of one of the recovered items with a MAB Boeing 777 Door R1 panel assembly. Malaysian MOT / ATSB
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A comparison of Boeing 777 engine cowling stencils. Malaysian MOT / ATSB
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Malaysia: 2 more pieces 'almost certainly' from Flight 370 - Thursday, May 12th 2016, 6:23 am EDT

Map locates debris believed to be from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370; 2c x 2 inches; 96.3 mm x 50 mm

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Roselvr,
thanks for posting the comparison pictures of the debris as well as the location map.

Here is the ATSB investigation report confirming the identity of this debris. I guess this makes it official for these two pieces.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2014/aair/ae-2014-054/

Apparently the weather has been bad for searching according to the weekly search update report

https://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370-pages/updates/operational-update/

You're welcome, thanks for catching it! I really hope a miracle happens and they find the plane.

The Tomnod debris location has really been driving me nuts. I wish I had time to look over everything more again. I have a feeling that there were parts in the ocean but went under the surface by the time they went to see what was there.
 
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I am so happy they are finally finding debris. I pray in the future the families will know what happened.


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I am so glad to find some intelligent conversation on this mystery. The trolls and conspiracy theorists have taken over all other message boards.

I am so fascinated by this and cannot wait to find out what happened to this jet. Anxiously waiting for them to find the fuselage and records. What a horrible nightmare for the families involved.
 
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I am so glad to find some intelligent conversation on this mystery. The trolls and conspiracy theorists have taken over all other message boards.

I am so fascinated by this and cannot wait to find out what happened to this jet. Anxiously waiting for them to find the fuselage and records. What a horrible nightmare for the families involved.

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I'm holding out hope they'll find it at the last minute of the search
 
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"There is a “decreasing possibility” of success in locating the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, the head of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search for the plane, told the Guardian Tuesday. Martin Dolan's comments came days after ATSB confirmed that the last two pieces found in the western part of the Indian Ocean were almost certainly from the missing Boeing 777-200.

Dolan raised doubts over the success of the underwater search for the missing plane as about 5,790 square miles of the ocean floor is yet to be scoured before the search operation is called off in July. A multimillion-dollar search of an area of 46,332 square miles in a remote part of the southern Indian Ocean has so far yielded no concrete clues as to what might have happened to Flight MH370. The passenger plane disappeared on March 8, 2014, with 239 people on board while on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ib...d-despite-recent-2369981?amp=1?client=safari#

It is very tragic indeed after a few months after this terrible situation started I lost hope the plane would ever be found. Very sadly the plane is in pieces in a gigantic ocean moving like a washing machine. Of course the biggest tragedy is that 239 families have been left without any remains of their loved ones to have funerals for and have been left without answers as to how they died. The only good that can come from this horrendous event is that as many measures as possible are put in place to prevent it happening ever again.
 
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I've been following this case and leaning towards the notion that one of the pilots deliberately did this. Too many coincidences otherwise. Richard Quest from CNN has also changed his tune on this. I like him but have no desire to read his book since most of the wreckage has not been found and nobody really has any idea what happened. He at first thought it was a rogue pilot and during an IV it seems like he thinks there was an accident on board. If someone could clarify that would be great.
 
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I still feel the copilot was involved in some way.


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I don't believe the pilot or co-pilot is to blame for this accident.
I believe something happened on the plane like an explosion or fire in the cargo area or a mechanical malfunction and the pilots tried everything they could until they died.

Time is running out on the search so every time I see a late post knowing it's daytime over there, I wonder if they found it. I sure hope it is soon.
 
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I am so glad to find some intelligent conversation on this mystery. The trolls and conspiracy theorists have taken over all other message boards.

I am so fascinated by this and cannot wait to find out what happened to this jet. Anxiously waiting for them to find the fuselage and records. What a horrible nightmare for the families involved.

I've read many of the comments and I appreciate the great breadth of knowledge and the serious tone of the discussion.

I have one question that perhaps one of you could offfer an opinion on:

Why has no one found luggage washing up somewhere or spotted it out on the ocean? While many bags nowadays are soft and likely to waterlog and degrade and sink, there are still a lot of rugged American Tourister-style suitcases out there that are metal or hard plastic and very tough - I'm old enough to remember ads where they showed on TV how indestructible they were.

I know part of the answer could be, based on the French analysis of the flaperon, i.e. they were probably searching the wrong area. But wouldn't some luggage be likely to wash up where the other prices have been found - East African coast and western Indian Ocean islands?
 
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I've read many of the comments and I appreciate the great breadth of knowledge and the serious tone of the discussion.

I have one question that perhaps one of you could offfer an opinion on:

Why has no one found luggage washing up somewhere or spotted it out on the ocean? While many bags nowadays are soft and likely to waterlog and degrade and sink, there are still a lot of rugged American Tourister-style suitcases out there that are metal or hard plastic and very tough - I'm old enough to remember ads where they showed on TV how indestructible they were.

I know part of the answer could be, based on the French analysis of the flaperon, i.e. they were probably searching the wrong area. But wouldn't some luggage be likely to wash up where the other prices have been found - East African coast and western Indian Ocean islands?

I'll try. Without going back to verify, I'm just going by memory which may not be too accurate.

First off, when the plane disappeared on March 8, 2014, it was thought to have gone down in the South China Sea or the Gulf of Thailand. Searches went on for some time before Malaysia released info that the plane had been seen on radar crossing the northern part of Malaysia.

The search then moved to the Andaman Sea, the Bay of Bengal, and then to the Indian Ocean. Tomnod got involved and people from all over searched through satellite pictures for signs of the plane. Unknown debris was spotted on these pictures but by the time the searchers were able to get there, they couldn't find it. By this time, most of the debris had already sunk to the bottom of the ocean or had been caught up in a garbage whirlpool swirling in the middle of the ocean.

Fast forward a year or so, Inmarsat, a telecommunications company in England, provided their theory that according to two pings they found from a satellite, the plane had gone down in either the northern or southern hemisphere on a certain parallel. Finally, they decided it was in the South Indian Ocean. They had to map the bottom of the ocean before actually beginning the search which is continuing to this day.

If they are searching in the right area, the theory is any of the debris that was still floating in the whirlpool in the middle of the South Indian Ocean would eventually make it to a shore on Africa over a two year period. When they talk about debris, it would include huge containers that fell from ships. A suitcase would be so small in comparison. I believe it was a little less than two years before the flaperon showed up.

Looking at the cartoon video of the debris moving around, I don't think much debris will ever make it that far to the west. The debris that did make it was probably slung out from the whirlpool and moved with the current before reaching a beach. And, also, before the search even moved to the Indian Ocean, we don't know how much debris if any that may have been found while cleaning beaches was probably discarded as trash from ships, etc.
 
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