Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom murdered NC part 9

[strach304]

Close, the exact Get It Market station is 14 miles north of Duffied.

 

[otto]

oh i know that i'm trying to stretch what little i know otto, lol...can't help it...i'm trying to think 'simple' though..(except for the gas containers )
...trying to keep the things we DO know (which is VERY little) as simple as possible in my mind, without going waaaaay 'out there'.....

oops...edited to add.....you're right; at the very beginning we all figured that the friend was there to watch Grey's Anatomy with Michelle, AND that JY was there also, maybe getting ready to "slip out" for his business trip.....i think we've determined though that it's not been officially stated that was the case....my theory is that the friend WAS there & saw him leave, but as time goes on, i'm just not sure, since nothing has actually been stated about it....in trying to keep things 'simple' i'm working with the friend seeing him leave....the article is worded in a weird way about this, so it can be taken two different ways....

Michelle Young's last day was like most for her. She headed to downtown Raleigh on Nov. 2 to work as a senior financial analyst in the tax department of Progress Energy. After work, it was a quiet evening at home.

Jason Young has said he slipped out that evening to get a head start for an early morning sales meeting in Virginia, according to Fussell, who said he talked to Jason Young at his wife's funeral.

Michelle Young stayed behind with Cassidy; a girlfriend came over to watch TV with her, the friend told Fussell. Cassidy popped in a DVD of "Cinderella" -- a Halloween gift -- and watched until she fell fast asleep.

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

Thanks for bringing that forward. Since it doesn't say that the friend saw Jason leave, can we assume that the "lots of luggage" story is false, that the marriage was not breaking down that night, that there was no phone call at 11 about the marriage breakdown, that Jason didn't angrily return to the home to confront Michelle and that there was no big fight about the end of the marriage, ultimately resulting in murder?

 

[close_enough]

Close, the exact Get It Market station is 14 miles north of Duffied.

thanks strach!....hmmmm

 

[raisincharlie]

I read on a link somewhere today, that the only timeLE has spoken to JY is at 3pm on the afternoon after Meredith had discovered Michelle's body. And that was a 15 min call. That means when they retreived the car from Meredith's resi they did not talk to JY.

We don't know if they talked to anyone there at the home. Probably sat on pins and needles waiting the the warrant to be issued from 3:15 till 4am when they served it in the act of removing the car from the scene. That means whoever was at the house woke up to a big surprise - no car.

So we don't know for sure if anyone was at MF's house except her and Cassidy. I think since they had 2 cars they decided it best not to leave JY's car at the hotel, and figured if it was parked in her driveway that would be safe. They would probably plan on picking up Cassidy in the morning. Just the fact it was not 'hiden' tells me JY and family had no idea the cops would be so quick in grabbing it.

I also think there must be an additional couple of pages on that SUV SW. When I pull it up I only have 3 pages from that WRAL link, and only one of those pages has items listed.

Little by little we are learning more and more, but to sleuth effectively we need much more to draw from.

Scandi,

Given the baby was found in the home alone and the trauma MF must have suffered - I doubt it was just her and Cassidy at the house. It would not surprise me if LE was at the house. They had spoken to JY earlier in the day - they knew he was returning - they knew he could not go to his house - the next most logical point he would approach would be MF as he would most likely have been told the baby was with MF - I think LE were waiting both there and at Birchleaf for JYs return. Whoever was driving was met by LE I suspect strongly. JMO

The N &O link has the last page of the warrant you are looking for - it has the lap top, assorted papers and a work order from Precision Tune listed for inventory items (13-15).

 

[raisincharlie]

ok, slap me....i knew that, but for some reason i was thinking the diff was like 15-20 minutes...must be all these cold meds, sorry...

No problem - hope you understand my thought process there :blowkiss: Get to feeling better !

 

[otto]

& about the "all sorts of luggage".....i don't remember reading anything about that...is this something that an 'insider' posted over at ctv???

There was a rumour (don't know where it originated) that was brought here about Michelle's friend saying something about Jason leaving with 2-3 pieces of luggage. This, I believe, was the beginning of theories about the marriage being on the rocks and Michelle likely leaving Jason. Personally, it would surprise me if a pregnant woman with a 2 year old would want to dissolve the marriage. If there was a marital problem, it's more likely that they would want to work through it for the sake of the children or at least wait until after the birth of the child to see if things sorted themselves out.

 

[close_enough]

Thanks for bringing that forward. Since it doesn't say that the friend saw Jason leave, can we assume that the "lots of luggage" story is false, that the marriage was not breaking down that night, that there was no phone call at 11 about the marriage breakdown, that Jason didn't angrily return to the home to confront Michelle and that there was no big fight about the end of the marriage, ultimately resulting in murder?

you're welcome otto....i, myself, don't think there was any "breaking down" that night...just my own personal opinion....i think JY left on a business trip, & had plans already in the making for killing his wife....i don't think that he had to necessarily be full of rage/anger when driving back to the house that night either.....IMO, he'd grown to hate Michelle...he got back to the house, struck her, (maybe in her sleep, maybe not) she tried to fight back, & he was bound & determined to kill her, thus the brutal beating/bludgeoning....

i DO think however that something happened that got the 'plan' rolling....something that 'clicked'/pissed him off in the days right before her death....

 

[jilly]

That was a good idea to call that particular hotel for their procedure because they aren't all exactly alike with their systems specific to their policy. To have a receipt put under your door I am sure you would have to request that even if it's in the way of saying I will not be coming to the desk to formally check out but want my receipt. If he checked in at say 10 or 11 pm the way the automated system works he could go to the desk at 12:01 am and be checked out but the receipt will refect that time whereas if you tell them to put the receipt under the door in the morning or whatever the key card will not work to get back in the room. Make sense?

Hi Strach! I don't think you have to make that request at all. The desk Clerk made no mention of that when I asked about their procedure. She just said "my mother" would check in with a CC & ID and the receipt would be put under the door during the early hours of the morning. Also, in comparison when I stay at the Marriott I've never made that specific request. Come to think of it though - I think many years ago you might have ticked off express checkout or something when checking in.

Also, (I hate to keep mentioning the Marriott but it seems to have the same procedure) common practice for us on the morning of checkout after getting that statement under the door is to go down and have the all included breakfast and then go back up to the room, get our luggage and exit via the door closest to our car. The key card still works.

 

[otto]

if JY headed out on a Thursday evening, had a business meeting on Friday morning, then was going to head to his parents house for the rest of the weekend, then i don't find it odd at all that he would have more than one bag/suitcase....is that the thing here about "all sorts of luggage"???

I'm way behind in my reading here ... but I understood that it was more or less all the belongings that he would need to move out of the house.

 

[strach304]

RC, do you have the exact address on that link you showed me for the Duffield connection? I myself wondered why he would go to a gas station north of his meeting but if his hotel was in that area it would explain it. However I know posters here have searched for a Hampton Inn in that area and there isn't one. I know the gas station is on hwy.58.

 

[scandi]

Strach, I just read Scout's wonderful site. And there Scout suggests that JY drove for about 3 hours and getting tired, might have gotton { LOL} a Hampton Hotel at the crossroad area of Hwy 77 and Hwy 81 in VA. I looked on the map, and boy does that make sense. From that location all he would have to do is then head west on Hwy81 to where the cutoff to Duffield is.

Since I've learned about this and the med center there, I think JY's early morning appt was a sales call, not a company meeting up in Blacksburg. I think he had a lot on his mind, like I said before, and a few good stiff ones before calling Michelle and bitter nasty words were spoken which made him absolutely flip.

If you look at it this way, here he was possibly about to make a giant and extremely profitable sale to that med center. She didn't appreciate him fully because her income was so comfortable and thus didn't need him like he wanted to be needed and respected. Then the threat of divorce and losing his comfy position where he could have both the bachelor free world and the stability of his family and home, paying hefty support for 2 children - and after a few drinks is when I think he decided to go back, surprise her in bed with a whack or two to the head and she'd be dead and not a threat to his happiness anymore.

I was half awake this morning and read a couple of great posts about the 'baby boy' theory. We've discussed it before, but it could be that could have been a real threat to him. Hard to imagine, but since LE did look into that accident again, it really could be it was his first attempt to get rid of her. JY lost two sons.


LOL When you're just speculating like this so much of it is garbage in garbage out, as you don't have a lot of facts to swing to and from. I hate these rambling posts, but gee, those little thoughts keep popping in as I get going. LOL I should do like Sami does, she writes a post, files it and then either condenses it or adds to it!

 

[otto]

That is odd Strach, as there were meds and a brown purse with attached keys listed, but no luggage. And I thought for sure the step father was angry they had taken the luggage. Remember the BinL and parents stayed at a residence type hotel {has a kitchette} when they came to Raleigh. I'm sure they made reservations before they got there. Why didn't they remnove their things from the car when they checked in? Unless it was they were expecting JY to come right back to join them. That could be why. Go get Cassidy and come right back. Except the warrant was executed at 3:15am on the 4th and the car was confiscated at 4am on the 4th.

Am I missing something? Jason gets to Bravard at 3pm on the 3rd. They get ready and head back to Raleigh - a 5 hour drive. So you would think they would get into Raleigh around 9pm. Secure their motel, and at some time Jason heads over to Merediths to get Cassidy. Why would he wait that long and go in the wee hours of the morning? So he wouldn't be spotted?

He may have had an emergency meeting (provide a retainer cheque) with his lawyer that took 3 hours.

 

[strach304]

Jilly, that's funny No I didn't tick anybody off, I used to be an auditor for a huge chain.

 

[close_enough]

I'm way behind in my reading here ... but I understood that it was more or less all the belongings that he would need to move out of the house.

oh my, otto...i never read anything like that, but it's possible i missed it.....sounds like rumor, but that's about all we've been 'hearing', for the most part....

 

[raisincharlie]

RC, do you have the exact address on that link you showed me for the Duffield connection? I myself wondered why he would go to a gas station north of his meeting but if his hotel was in that area it would explain it. However I know posters here have searched for a Hampton Inn in that area and there isn't one. I know the gas station is on hwy.58.

Which link Strach - the news release or the one from the MSN super yellow pages ? You might look at Blacksburg (washington county - there are three Blacksburgs in VA - all in different counties). Scout also thought perhaps the Hampton Inn in Abington (east of Duffield) or something like that. I 'll pull both of those links for you - back in a bit.

Here is the yellow pages link for the Get It Market - there is no exact address other than Highway 58 Duffield

http://yellowpages.superpages.com/supermaps/mapinit.jsp?SRC=msn&N=Get+I+Market&R=N&STYPE=S&T=&S=VA&Z=&LID=0125490330&map.x=212&map.y=125&level=8&lat=036712332&lng=-082855216&POI1lat=036712332&POI1lng=-082855216&POI1name=Get-It+Market&city=Duffield&state=VA&zip=24244

Back again in a second

Here is the article about the proposed data center in Duffield - again no exact location given:

http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=3691596

Hope that helps ! Done editing now.

 

[scandi]

Hi Otto, I did think about that and then thought I remembered the step father was so mad at LE for taking their belongings and thought that is when he told JY to get a lawyer. I don't know, and think I will go find that link agtain to see what he really said. Good thought though and they could have hired him on the 2nd. Did we ever hear exactly when?

 

[close_enough]

No problem - hope you understand my thought process there :blowkiss: Get to feeling better !

yes yes...i understand...good grief, i've been 'here' all day long, lol....didn't feel like bowling; just cuddled up here at the computer...only been away to fix a couple of cups of hot tea & some soup...

& thanks RC :blowkiss:

 

[scandi]

There was a rumour (don't know where it originated) that was brought here about Michelle's friend saying something about Jason leaving with 2-3 pieces of luggage. This, I believe, was the beginning of theories about the marriage being on the rocks and Michelle likely leaving Jason. Personally, it would surprise me if a pregnant woman with a 2 year old would want to dissolve the marriage. If there was a marital problem, it's more likely that they would want to work through it for the sake of the children or at least wait until after the birth of the child to see if things sorted themselves out.

Hi again Otto!

Fussell was the one who mentioned the luggage and I read it at CTV as soon as the friends started posting there. I think it was someone with the nik and initials CC that said that. JTF mentioned the 11pm phone call to Michelle. Rumors of divorce and possible marital problems were mentioned by several friends, and I don't think anyone but JTF said they had a happy marriage.

One reason I can think of why a woman would leave a marriage behind her is if he was not sexually faithful to her.

 

[strach304]

oh my, otto...i never read anything like that, but it's possible i missed it.....sounds like rumor, but that's about all we've been 'hearing', for the most part....

Ask Scandi she's the one that knows for sure. The lots of luggage she said was from media from Fussell but then later that part was edited out, right Scandi? We were speculating that it was possible that was the night he was put out etc. and the hotel 1/2 mile away was something posted on ctv boards from an insider (rumor).

 

[close_enough]

Hi again Otto!

Fussell was the one who mentioned the luggage and I read it at CTV as soon as the friends started posting there. I think it was someone with the nik and initials CC that said that. JTF mentioned the 11pm phone call to Michelle. Rumors of divorce and possible marital problems were mentioned by several friends, and I don't think anyone but JTF said they had a happy marriage.

One reason I can think of why a woman would leave a marriage behind her is if he was not sexually faithful to her.

wow, ok i missed all of this....so someone at CTV with the nik CC said that Fussell said that JY took lots of luggage when he left for his trip?