• #20,581
Except when she said ‘I’m pretty sure’ about him not leaving the house that night. And also saying the van broke down on Friday.
Van? a WHITE van?
 
  • #20,582
How certain is it that this man is actually involved and not just a case of mistaken identity or a person turned in by an angry Ex?
Somewhat certain considering the secured search warrant
 
  • #20,583
The mother interviewed said he works in Tucson during the week for UPS.
Then his routes will be scrutinized if he is on a truck but he could be package sorter in warehouse, dispatcher, or any job…don’t jump to conclusions to put him in the frame.
 
  • #20,584
sorry, no. i went to school for journalism. the ethical thing to do would be to speak to her and not air it. i don't think he's being intentionally malicious, but he's been covering this case since the beginning and is probably tired. he should rest, but i don't like this at all.

not saying the guy detained isn't guilty, but we have literally no way to know what led them down this trail or what basis they're questioning him on. it's pretty irresponsible to air an interview with his famil
Thanks, this a helpful perspective from someone more versed in the ethics of journalism. Would the right move here be to speak with her and turn it over to police? Or speak with her and hold on record if subpoenaed?
 
  • #20,585
That she is being interviewed like this, while her house is being searched and her family's phones have been taken away gives me an uncomfortable feeling. The likelihood that she will be interviewed by LE soon is high, and she has just been giving statements to a reporter who SHOULD know better.

If we also factor in that she is Hispanic, lives near the border and might have a relative involved in a what is now a high-profile crime...this will cause her and her family more problems than not. Someone should have guided her away from the press, or kept the press at a distance until she had been interviewed by LE.

That's just my opinion. I know many will disagree. I want NG found, and I am praying she is safe, but in this nation you are innocent until proven guilty, and we cannot assume that a POI who has not, per the authorities involved, been charged deserves to have his name revealed in an interview rather than through official channels.

Again...opinion.
Not disagreeing, just adding that she said she had already spoken with LE.
 
  • #20,586
Without more details it’s hard to say, but I wonder if this is possibly related to the ransom demand rather than the kidnapping? Clearly LE has some evidence implicating this person in a crime if they obtained a search warrant — curious to know what led them to this person, digital forensics? A tip? DNA?
Give the LE enforcement around him and the fact they're also doing searches around where he was, it sounds like it's more than they think they got a rando who was 'prank-ransoming'.
 
  • #20,587
I wonder if detainee cosplays with a medieval shield on a certain body part???

They said it was him on the video....

Yeah, yeah...
What does this even mean?
 
  • #20,588
That she is being interviewed like this, while her house is being searched and her family's phones have been taken away gives me an uncomfortable feeling. The likelihood that she will be interviewed by LE soon is high, and she has just been giving statements to a reporter who SHOULD know better.

If we also factor in that she is Hispanic, lives near the border and might have a relative involved in a what is now a high-profile crime...this will cause her and her family more problems than not. Someone should have guided her away from the press, or kept the press at a distance until she had been interviewed by LE.

That's just my opinion. I know many will disagree. I want NG found, and I am praying she is safe, but in this nation you are innocent until proven guilty, and we cannot assume that a POI who has not, per the authorities involved, been charged deserves to have his name revealed in an interview rather than through official channels.

Again...opinion.


I agree because Investigation interest should always come before public interest. No question.
 
  • #20,589
You are assuming they didnt stash her somewhere else, and instead, brought her to their house.
The point is that all of this evening’s activities aren’t locating the victim, or likely to.

Even if someone is arrested, will they keep their mouth shut or will they admit to a federal offense and seal their fate on the spot?
 
  • #20,590
Sounds like he is being taken away in cuffs.
 
  • #20,591
Barged in without a warrant...and even cuffed the son that was playing Nintendo who is not the subject of the investigation. Not good. If this is really the guy, it could hurt their case.
Yikes. And what if it's a red herring and they received a bunk name, address or tip to throw them off? I'm unsure what to think at this point.

Interesting the subject does deliveries though, but we will see what happens.
 
  • #20,592
Somewhat certain considering the secured search warrant
The LE just have to show probable cause to search…not to prove he is guilty. PC is more tenuous but also requires specificity. Maybe he is the guy they think opened the wallet they baited and they have tech info to show he paid for a website address or an account.
 
  • #20,593
Without more details it’s hard to say, but I wonder if this is possibly related to the ransom demand rather than the kidnapping? Clearly LE has some evidence implicating this person in a crime if they obtained a search warrant — curious to know what led them to this person, digital forensics? A tip? DNA?
I think that with the new image from the nest they could narrow down vehicles picked up by other house security cam footage in the area, leading the to this address.
 
  • #20,594
  • #20,595
What does this even mean?
Maybe they are making some reference to the video suspect having his gun hanging over his crotch, and a medieval "crotch shield" or codpiece?
 
  • #20,596
I want the perp caught and convicted, but I also want it done properly. I'm trusting it is.

jmo
 
  • #20,597
Barged in without a warrant...and even cuffed the son that was playing Nintendo who is not the subject of the investigation. Not good. If this is really the guy, it could hurt their case.
How do you know there was no warrant?
 
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  • #20,599
sorry, no. i went to school for journalism. the ethical thing to do would be to speak to her and not air it. i don't think he's being intentionally malicious, but he's been covering this case since the beginning and is probably tired. he should rest, but i don't like this at all.

not saying the guy detained isn't guilty, but we have literally no way to know what led them down this trail or what basis they're questioning him on. it's pretty irresponsible to air an interview with his family.
Not to mention that they can't have confirmed that the woman is actually the MIL of the detained person, or that the name she said is correct.
 
  • #20,600
But in another interview on CNN she said "I don't know...Fed X." My thought is that he might work for a temp agency and works for multiple delivery companies.

Maybe he is the guy that had the Amazon uniform on caught trespassing that was posted by Pima Co Sherrif
Yes sorry I added to my previous post an ETA. It does sound like a 3rd party company that deals with multiple delivery companies.

*ETA from my earlier post: sorry she actually said he works in Tucson 'all week' delivering boxes for UPS and... he works for a company. You can call the company to see if he's working" something like that. So not directly working for UPS, but pehaps delivery in general.
 
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