Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[sdmike1974]

This intruder's unhurried movements has me concerned that he is working in concert with other(s) and his sole purpose is to remove NG who is bound and gagged.

Or worse. Perish the thought.

Could play a role in why he made such an effort to cover (with plants) or actually remove the doorbell camera which would likely have recorded NG being carried thru that door to the street or driveway.

Edit-to-add
I just noticed others have posted similar speculation.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

People who are used to getting hassled?

 

[touchlove]

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[Voidz]

Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.

It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

MSN

I am genuinely curious now this proves she made it home? Can it not be disconnected remotely?

 

[Sharonuk]

Have they said if the uber driver had NG on video saturday night? Or if she was in good spirits on the way to AG house?

 

[rebel123]

I don't believe Nancy is that far away from her home. She is elderly, has health issues, so I think that may have been a consideration for the person who has taken her. I think she's being held 'out of sight', so close by, but in a 'secluded area'. Traffic is none existence.

 

[avalonisland]

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

C and "wife" and kid were working when pulled over....doing a Doordash delivery assignment. Carlos seems to be treated like a fall guy but it will get to the actual ones involved in hurting and abducting and maybe killing NG, but it does not seem to be Carlos. Maybe Carlos did some security camera disable stuff but no way hurt NG

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.

It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

MSN

I think this probably means she was at home, yes but not necessarily- the phone may have been elsewhere with Nancy and placed back at the home around/after its last connection. Unlikely though. I’m sure LE must have been able to trace the phone’s movements over the course of the evening.

 

[avalonisland]

Have they said if the uber driver had NG on video saturday night? Or if she was in good spirits on the way to AG house?

No word on Uber driver. I still think its strange AG would not pick up NG for a dinner which was all of 10 min drive. Just bizarre

 

[luc1fer12]

Appreciate this crypto breakdown as someone with no idea

I would just say this. It doesn’t take a lot of skill to ask for ransom via crypto. It take a lot of skill to not get caught.

Not suggesting the ransom note is/isn’t legitimate, but you could be dealing with someone who simply doesn’t understand crypto and ways it can be tracked. “Dude, we’ll just ask for it in crypto, they’ll never find us”

 

[simlyme]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

very first press con. it was almost an hour then second press con it was 7 minutes, After that nanos didn't talk much because he kept contradicting himself

 

[brib809]

Has anybody compared whether the guy detained is the guy from that video floating around earlier yesterday (where they thought there was a connection) where it appeared to be potentially a delivery man? I believe the man detained said he works for a delivery company

 

[moonglow123]

WATCH: Man detained by police in Nancy Guthrie search speaks to ABC15

So C thinks he may have been detained due to phone proximity. Potentially delivering packages in NG’s neighborhood. I wonder how they came to the conclusion that he was there around the time of the abduction.

C is obviously not the person in the video footage, they don’t have the same build. And I hope LE isn’t just going based off of phone pings because I’m sure the actual perp was savvy enough to turn theirs off or leave it at home for the crime.

 

[luc1fer12]

I think this probably means she was at home, yes but not necessarily- the phone may have been elsewhere with Nancy and placed back at the home around/after its last connection. Unlikely though. I’m sure LE must have been able to trace the phone’s movements over the course of the evening.

I’ve heard it said before, but what does it mean that the app was “disconnected from her phone”? That she moved out of range of the phone/app? The app only works if near her?

 

[auburnmomof2]

Sorry about your Mom passing away. I don't think NG ever saw the creepo who disabled front door nest ring doorbell. I cannot explain the blood droplets but I truly believe NG never came home from dinner and game night.

Thank you, I miss her dearly and some days are still difficult.
I have thought about the theory that NG didn't make it home that night. But her phone should leave a location footprint. The pacemaker may have only shown a connection around 2am nightly. My mom's was that way, it uploaded information once a day and in the middle of the night. But mom's had a device connected to their landline. Nancy's must've been different from the sounds of it. But if family could have moved her phone and watch to align with the timeline we've seen. There's just so much missing information in my opinion.
Where is Nancy!?
All posts I add are just my opinion

 

[PacoElFlaco]

As of this latest "Carlos" fiasco, I am pretty sure now that the kidnappers, unless they are unable to do so due to being under surveillance, have decided to dispose of Nancy, (if they even still had her), and cut their losses and disappear into Mexico. I doubt as of now, she will ever be found. This case is going to join the ranks of cold cases like the Ramsays.

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

She wasn’t dropped home at all and the video footage/ransom is staging. And yes, it’s someone she knows.

Thoughts?

I think unlikely but if this did happen, they would have to have Nancy with them in the vehicle when they came to the house as we know she must have been in close proximity to her phone at 2.28am when it last connected to the pacemaker. The perps are disabling the camera, breaking into the home (used her key maybe) then went back to the vehicle to grab the phone to plant it. Then drove Nancy to another location. I think this is a bit of a stretch.

 

[Melisende10]

Has anybody compared whether the guy detained is the guy from that video floating around earlier yesterday (where they thought there was a connection) where it appeared to be potentially a delivery man? I believe the man detained said he works for a delivery company

They didn't look anything alike to me.

 

[Dexxie8]

WATCH: Man detained by police in Nancy Guthrie search speaks to ABC15

So C thinks he may have been detained due to phone proximity. Potentially delivering packages in NG’s neighborhood. I wonder how they came to the conclusion that he was there around the time of the abduction.

C is obviously not the person in the video footage, they don’t have the same build. And I hope LE isn’t just going based off of phone pings because I’m sure the actual perp was savvy enough to turn theirs off or leave it at home for the crime.

Looks like we may have another dead end with the person that was detained. Seems like LE is digging for anything and everything because they don’t have any other leads at this moment. Everybody is watching this case, so the pressure must be intense to find NG & the perpetrator(s).

 

[avalonisland]

In this post, it says an investigator from Adult Protective Services left a card on the door of Nancy’s house.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021355815106719928

This is the video from the new station with the card on the window.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018800434371284998

His van “broke down” last Friday? I wonder when the suspicious white van in Nancy’s neighborhood was reported in the news. Ie. If someone’s vehicle is reported as being suspicious, it might make a person not want to drive it. Speculation only.

Give Carlos and his entire family their cellphones back. Police need to focus on NG activities the night of 1/3126. Carlos probably delivered packages to NG or something but he did not cause her disappearance and potential death