Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Voidz]

My feeling is that they have nothing and are clutching at straws, which explains jumping on an innocent man after allegedly receiving a tip off. (Having said that, I blame the reporters for doxxing this man and his family - really low to interview the mother in law or whoever she was during such a vulnerable and chaotic moment.)

I am starting to wonder if she was dropped home at all - has this fiasco been a coverup? Are we victim to staging?

At this point, it has all been so insane that maybe that isn’t a crazy theory!

 

[avalonisland]

In the interview C says they asked him questions. He says “they asked me where I was”.

C sounds suspicious in alot of areas but not in regards to taking NG against her will from her home.

 

[TheDinks]

And this Carlos POI...if it's him putting bushes in front camera...I think it was an assignment to disable camera footage. I believe based on all reported to media that a tragic incident happened to NG which NG was with intimate family members.

That man has been released. <Modsnip>

 

[outback]

Sorry about your Mom passing away. I don't think NG ever saw the creepo who disabled front door nest ring doorbell. I cannot explain the blood droplets but I truly believe NG never came home from dinner and game night.

Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.

It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

MSN

 

[avalonisland]

My feeling is that they have nothing and are clutching at straws, which explains jumping on an innocent man after allegedly receiving a tip off. (Having said that, I blame the reporters for doxxing this man and his family - really low to interview the mother in law or whoever she was during such a vulnerable and chaotic moment.)

I am starting to wonder if she was dropped home at all - has this fiasco been a coverup? Are we victim to staging?

At this point, it has all been so insane that maybe that isn’t a crazy theory!

I don't believe she was dropped off at home 1/31/26. Like if she was she would have had to sprint to get into house in 2 mins. I believe she never came home and all the weirdo activity beginning at 9:45pm and ending at like 2:30am was cover up to conceal NG being injured or killed away from home around 1/31/26 late night

 

[Voidz]

She wasn’t dropped home at all and the video footage/ransom is staging. And yes, it’s someone she knows.

Thoughts?

 

[brib809]

So the POI got released?<Modsnip: Offtopic> Not a great look

 

[BrittMontero]

I wonder when that card was left in the timeline, must be after Nancy went missing as she would have seen it otherwise?

Wow, this is the first I’ve heard of that card.
I wonder if it’s authentic? And what prompted it!!

I don’t know about Nancy but I can go days without seeing my front door. And it sounds as though she were in the habit of using the garage door.

 

[Voidz]

I don't believe she was dropped off at home 1/31/26. Like if she was she would have had to sprint to get into house in 2 mins. I believe she never came home and all the weirdo activity beginning at 9:45pm and ending at like 2:30am was cover up to conceal NG being injured or killed away from home around 1/31/26 late night

Agreed

 

[Sharonuk]

Her pacemaker app was disconnected from her phone at 2:28am. That has been determined by investigators.



It doesn't clear the family but she made it home.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...of-the-search/ar-AA1VAZgt?ocid=BingNewsSe rp

Did they actually say it disconnected or that it couldnt get a signal back? Someone said there own pacemaker sends 1 signal between 2-4am if they are not near the phone then it will not receive it.

 

[luc1fer12]

Cliff's from Carlos interview -

They detained him but didn't ask him a single question.
They searched/processed his car and his home.
They damaged some things (front door/garage door mentioned).
He was forthcoming until someone in the home interjected and pulled him inside just after a question from a reporter in Spanish.

JMO.

He misspeaks. At 1:06 of the interview he describes some of the questions they asked him.

 

[avalonisland]

The smell of that would be more than enough for someone to notice.

I don't think the Carlos guy hurt any elderly woman but maybe he accepted a job to disable cameras or something on 2/1/26

 

[Voidz]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

 

[slueth1111]

It's always felt to me that he wasn't using the flowers to cover the doorbell cam because he didn't get them before approaching, and with all in that backpack he could have brought something that actually worked to cover it, like painter's tape. Plus, you have to admit some flower stems is NOT a very good camera block.

With all that said... it just feels to me like he was holding them out for the camera to capture them. Why? Absolutely NO clue. Only he knows why he did that. But, it feels to me like there was a purpose (other than trying to block the lens).

Maybe part of his communication to the family, that only he'd know, is "I held out flowers to the camera". That way LE knew they had the right guy that was communicating thru the ransom letters. It took a while before those images were released so that very well could be what the purpose of holding them up would be.

JMO!!!

I think he couldn't get a grip of the camera with the gloves. I think of me trying to do stuff with gloves on. He used the flowers to grab the camera. IMO

 

[avalonisland]

But he’d been driving the van for the first week, immediately after she disappeared. That doesn’t make any sense to me. His van is also not white, according to the BE interview.

Carlos has an alibi. He was at Mother in law's home Friday night after work, 1/30/26, to Monday morning, 2/2/26 which is like 60 miles or so from NG house. Who can provide alibi's of NG family that was with her 1/31/26 other than the family members. Carlos has someone other than himself to prove he was not in NG area during her disappearance.

 

[Dreamcherry]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

No, it was something like 7 minutes iirc?

 

[TheDinks]

I don't think the Carlos guy hurt any elderly woman but maybe he accepted a job to disable cameras or something on 2/1/26

dbm

getting frustrated with inane comments, sorry people

 

[slueth1111]

It’s hard to KEEP UP in this thread but can anyone please confirm if it truly took an hour for the family to report her missing to the police, even after seeing blood?

It was stated in time line it was only a few minutes from arriving there

 

[luc1fer12]

C sounds suspicious in alot of areas but not in regards to taking NG against her will from her home.

The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?

 

[outback]

I don't think the Carlos guy hurt any elderly woman but maybe he accepted a job to disable cameras or something on 2/1/26

And...he wouldn't find that suspicious??

Why not tell the police? Especially considering the story is huge and he knows a person is missing or possibly dead?

Jmo