Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cherryleaf]

I know we are not privy to all information but this case really feels like the people in charge have no idea what has gone on here and they are clutching at straws. I think the case has been botched from the start.

I feel it has become a circus and sometimes it’s easy to forget at the centre of this is a family who are missing their 84 year old mother.

Yup, media circus isn't the right word, it looks more like voyeurism.

 

[heli]

Excellent. Great idea. I hope they find her, or body( sorry). Take to all roadsides nearby, up into Catalina Hills, nearby desert just out of town.
JMO

This was posted on Feb. 3rd so not recent

 

[Der Detektiv]

I don’t think it was a robbery, JMO.
I think the bag was full because of rope, gag, body bag, to get her out of the house more easily.
I’ve moved away from the ransom/ kidnapper theory. I think the ransom people were just opportunists. No proof of life, etc.
I think, someone wanted her gone, ( dead, sorry) but why?

If NG was removed in a body bag, can you explain the presence of the blood on the doorstep?

 

[submarine7]

Or maybe on the Nextdoor app?
Not sure if suggested already due to this fast moving thread.
IMO.

Somebody posted a Next Door of NG where she asks about security cameras.

 

[UsernameRequired]

It's unfathomable that investigators just TODAY removed the Nest mounting bracket after knowing the perpetrator had touched it. Who knows how many random people have messed with it over the last 12 days.

Nest camera bracket removed from Nancy Guthrie’s house after investigators erect tent to shroud evidence gathering

Investigators have asked for all video footage pertaining to Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance covering the month before the 84-year-old went missing.

nypost.com

 

[RedHaus]

If NG was removed in a body bag, can you explain the presence of the blood on the doorstep?

Try on my post up thread...  below.

Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026' AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

 

[jtfolden]

I originally thought the man on the Ring camera in the neighborhood DID NOT look like the perp from the video, but to be honest upon taking a closer look and with the renewed timing explanation "from" TMZ, I'm not so sure and I think it doesn't have to be the SAME person. MOO

The backpack that the man lifts up is hard to see, but to me there's nothing that explicitly shows that it's NOT the Ozark Trails backpack in the NG Nest video. Unless you can see otherwise?
I also think there's a possibility that this man isn't the one on NG's Nest video but perhaps was an accomplice in with 1+ others (as the FBI has said they are looking into multiple people being involved).
Maybe he gave or took the backpack to/from the person we see in the NG Nest video (who in one of them DOES NOT have the backpack on - it's unclear to me whether that's before or after the other footage and I don't think specific timing of each was released, but let me know if I'm wrong).

Sorry I'm working as well so haven't screenshotted everything but if someone wants to I think that would be helpful to determine either way, or I can look later!
For those curious about route/timing, if you look back two posts of mine I have a screenshot of the route from the Ring camera footage to NG's (and the TMZ article).

You can see the Ozark Trail logo on the backpack in some of NG’s nest footage. That logo is missing from both of these backpacks. Additionally this guy’s jacket has a hood that is not present on the coat seen on the Nest footage either.

 

[Momtoapug]

Excellent. Great idea. I hope they find her, or body( sorry). Take to all roadsides nearby, up into Catalina Hills, nearby desert just out of town.
JMO

The article is from Feb 3rd, fyi

 

[nightowl2728]

You can see the Ozark Trail logo on the backpack in some of NG’s nest footage. That logo is missing from both of these backpacks. Additionally this guy’s jacket has a hood that is not present on the coat seen on the Nest footage either.

Sorry to be annoying but can you screenshot where in the TMZ video footage we get a clear shot of the spot on BOTH of the backpacks where the Ozark Trail logo would be? I tried watching it/pausing the video multiple times before and wasn't able to sufficiently tell, specifically on the hoisted backpack.

Re: the jacket, I think this would be another guy involved, not the guy in the Nest footage, IMO, based on what I posted about the FBI saying there are likely multiple accomplices, and the fact that the guy in the Nest footage does not have a backpack on in some of the footage.

 

[submarine7]

Hanging by a thread or string from handle of kitchen cupboard….?

Lol no, I read it was at the foot of a bed. Unsure if her bed or another one.

 

[VegasGirl35]

IOW, I'll be surprised if NG is found. All that ransom BS is likely just that. And unfortunately, IMO, its a sick distraction.

My speculation only.

Sadly, I don't think she will either. There's no incentive to give up the body, even if the family pays. No matter how careful a criminal is, there's always a chance evidence was left behind at the dump site. Hair, fibers, footprints, tire tracks, DNA, etc. The more contact they have with the media and law enforcement, the greater the chance they'll be caught. They're gone.

 

[madprincess65]

I would never carry a gun in that way.

IKR who would

 

[stmichael]

If NG was removed in a body bag, can you explain the presence of the blood on the doorstep?

1. Struggle prior to securing her in body bag. The suspect went up to the front door with steel welded security door, brandishing what looks to be a firearm. He may have threatened her to come out and a startled elderly lady may have panicked and complied, opened the door and struggle ensued.

2. Body bag rips as he drags her, leaves trail of blood drops. (more likely due to the blood trail). We're talking about a guy who buys a $15 backpack for his "kit". Any body bag or tarp probably wouldn't be a premium investment and low quality thrown together like everything else.

edit: I don't believe he did this, but you asked.

 

[SaraSmile]

Completely agree, FWIW.

This was not an abduction, IMO. It was likely a planned murder or intrusion gone bad for an unknown reason.

Either way, sadly I suspect NG died 2/1 early AM as I opined up thread. And porch-guy-fixer's job was to get rid of her body with stuff in his backpack.

Maybe there was a sick or evil plan that would ensure her kids would never know where their Mother ended up. Torture.

IOW, I'll be surprised if NG is found. All that ransom BS is likely just that. And unfortunately, IMO, its a sick distraction.

My speculation only.

Totally agree with all of this ^^^
Nancy was likely killed the first night, dumped( very sorry) in the desert outside of town.
Why is the question, who would want her gone.

I speculated earlier in thread, NG saw something, maybe as simple as drugs in a workers trunk (his moonlighting job), he was at her house working on a job, maybe the roof. Maybe she even said “ is that drugs?”, he waved it off, “no worries, just materials for a job”, closed trunk.
Later, The person decided it was too big a threat to have her live, she might turn him in.

Just another idea to think about, JMO.

 

[madprincess65]

If so, why not just murder her in the house and leave the body? Makes no sense to remove the body.

 

[submarine7]

1. Struggle prior to securing her in body bag. The suspect went up to the front door with steel welded security door, brandishing what looks to be a firearm. He may have threatened her to come out and a startled elderly lady may have panicked and complied, opened the door and struggle ensued.

2. Body bag rips as he drags her, leaves trail of blood drops. (more likely due to the blood trail). We're talking about a guy who buys a $15 backpack for his "kit". Any body bag or tarp probably wouldn't be a premium investment and low quality thrown together like everything else.

It's aspirated blood, or so it was reported.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022079125889114199

 

[fridaybaker]

They’ve also offered a $50k reward. One bitcoin is roughly $67k. They aren’t going to do the right thing over $17k?! Honestly, tell what you know and then get a reward, period. If they start giving money to any random person, who claims they know something about a case, it will set a huge precedent for the future.

Also, I’m somewhat surprised that the family hasn’t added to the reward. It’s only at $50k. You would think they would, but that’s just my two cents.

I find this strange as well. One the one hand, they're looking at paying a multi-million dollar ransom. On the other, there is a 50K reward on offer for her return. I'd think I'd go with a few hundred thousand as a motivator for info myself.

 

[birdbox]

If NG was removed in a body bag, can you explain the presence of the blood

1. Struggle prior to securing her in body bag. The suspect went up to the front door with steel welded security door, brandishing what looks to be a firearm. He may have threatened her to come out and a startled elderly lady may have panicked and complied, opened the door and struggle ensued.

2. Body bag rips as he drags her, leaves trail of blood drops. (more likely due to the blood trail). We're talking about a guy who buys a $15 backpack for his "kit". Any body bag or tarp probably wouldn't be a premium investment and low quality thrown together like everything else.

Yeah, perhaps wal mart didnt sell body bags, so he bought a $24 tarp.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Occupational hearing loss is often in one ear only. Age related hearing loss (presbycusis) is usually in both ears but is seldom identical. Most people who experience hearing loss have one ear that is their “good” ear even if experiencing some degree of hearing loss in that ear. Usually they will use a hearing aid in only the ear that has the larger degree of hearing loss, although some people do prefer hearing aids in both ears. Individual preference.

As a severely hearing impaired person, it depends on the degree of decibel loss. I used to have a good ear lol. Now, I don’t. I'm way past one hearing device. I use 2 when I wear them.