Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Emerald1328]

Do we actually know that the first ransom note was sent on Monday? I think the only reason we know who got notes is because those organizations released the information to the public themselves. It appears there are 3 local Tucson news stations and we’ve only heard about 2 of them (along with TMZ) receiving communication. It’s entirely possible that communication was sent on Sunday to a different news organization (NBC national, the other local Tucson news stations, local newspaper, etc.) if so, they just didn’t broadcast it to the public.

 

[ogold45]

Us civilians have almost no concrete facts. I think LE stating they have nothing is a ruse.

 

[Chimera]

I've been reviewing some of the crime scene footage and taking screenshots.

Not seeing any signs of forced entry on the doors or side gate, although it's true the Sheriff never confirmed there was forced entry.

Snipped for focus.
Makes me think the perp had very intimate knowledge of the house and maybe had a key ?
That should narrow it down a bit.
Jmo.

 

[thefragile7393]

Unless they are private roads, we have the right to peacefully assemble.

As long as roads aren’t being blocked, driveways aren’t being blocked, bright lights and noise aren’t being utilized

 

[MesquiteO21]

I can follow your logic but there could be other reasons for choosing TMZ in addition to the local stations. TMZ suggested that they were chosen because the sender wanted to know it had been received and the local stations who received it before they did weren’t disclosing it. See the link to the news nation article below.

But also I am not sure that the 2 local stations and TMZ were the only places that it was sent just because they are the only ones that acknowledged they received it. My first thought when it came out was why not send it to NBC or a local NBC affiliate? But maybe they did and maybe NBC chose not to disclose that. How would we know?

And regarding whether sending it to TMZ was from someone under 30…. Well I am considerably over 30 (more than twice that) and well aware that TMZ often talks about things sooner and/or discloses info that news agencies might not.

What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

Both TMZ and KOLD representatives said wording in the messages suggests the sender has familiarity with the Tucson area.

www.newsnationnow.com

i think that's a fair point that TMZ could've been chosen because sender knew they would talk about it. NBC definitely could've kept it under wraps while LE was vetting it. i just kind of feel like if it was an older person and NBC didn't give it any attention, they would send another saying hey don't ignore this letter rather than deciding to go to TMZ. But, i could be totally wrong.

moo

 

[Chimera]

And you've got to have respect for LE when they are getting criticized constantly for lack of progress.. but we have no earthly idea how much information they already have but they are exercising great caution in divulging anything that would alert the perpetrator(s) to change their behavior because LE is onto them.

With this large team they have to have something... or they can maybe at least totally rule out certain people.. But they won't go public with that for obvious reasons.

I "feel" like we are going to get an arrest or POI this week.

Agreed and I hope you're correct !!
Fingers crossed for a break soon !

 

[turaj]

She absolutely had help. Her son in law lived minutes away and could have helped out with the pool (I do this for my mom's house). I would imagine he would stop by and help with subcontractors and workers hired (I wouldn't leave my 84 year old sick mom to handle that alone but who knows?)

She certainly had work done on the house and people coming and going. The neighbor who called in the "camera on the roof tip" stated in an interview that NG's roofs looked so clean in the drone footage because she had them recently re-sealed (which is large job, usually 2 or more people). Even with the low maintenance desert landscaping a property like that has a lot of upkeep.

SIL is a full time teacher and has a child with AG. I am sure that NG had pool service probably weekly to balance the chemicals and clean. I also don't think "84 year old sick mom" is accurate description of NG who seemed to be an active senior with friends and not sitting around being sick. Her meds indicate some chronic conditions and walks with cane. In her plea to captors SG stressed her fragile health to make it more urgent to return her now.

 

[Tortoise]

I'm interested in the drips running down the door frame.

Major developments in search for Nancy Guthrie as cops raid her home

Forensic teams were seen scouring the roof of Nancy's home in Tucson, Arizona, reportedly finding a camera mounted to the property that had been missed in previous searches.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[heli]

Besides the Today Show saying they gathered at houses to watch church The Daily Mail said so also

Nancy Guthrie family 'source' shares new version of events

The 84-year-old was due to be at one of her friend's homes on February 1 and when she failed to arrive they reached out to Nancy's daughter Annie who lives nearby.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 117884]

It is interesting that NG watches a live stream from her daughter's NYC church instead of one in Tucson area. It seems like SG is very much the golden child. I was also watching some clips on SG's social media and she made Jenna Bush the godmother of her first child, which I thought was notable that it wasn't her sister. It may be that her sister does not share the same religious beliefs. On the other hand, SG called her sister her "spiritual life partner" in a clip of the her 2018 book that someone posted here.

I'm sure the family dynamics are interesting. Just like in all families I'm sure in addition to love, there are tensions and resentments and jealousies. It seems like AG probably did most of the heavy lifting with NG and, if it is anything like my experience as a caretaker (also to an mid 80s family member who is basically "independent"), the faraway siblings have no idea how much work it can be-- and I don't mean physically. It would be hard to see them traveling the world, having summer houses and NYC townhouses, and seemingly having no money worries while I stayed in my hometown.

Good Shepherd live streams at 11am Eastern time

Good Shepherd New York

goodshepherdnewyork.com

 

[Cipher Vale]

Thanks for this! It kinda looks like a big drag mark on the driveway. I now wonder if the garage door opening for 2 minutes was to remove Nancy from the scene.

Are you referring to the mark between the person standing just outside the garage and the person to the right of the garage? If so, that looks like gravel worn down from the tires of the car. Theres a similar but less noticeable mark to the left of that which appears to line up with where the car is parked in the garage.

 

[BrittMontero]

And looking at Good Shepherd’s site (link), it says the “Digital Church” service begins at 11:00 AM (EST).

11:00 AM (EST) would be 9:00 AM (MT).

I believe the Sheriff has said AG or “family” got the call at around 11:00, so (no criticism, just noting for timeline purposes) the friend alerted family a couple of hours after the beginning of the service.

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I wonder if the digital service is available on YouTube for later, non-live viewing.

 

[No it's not]

No, because she's owned the house for decades, and never listed it. There's a bit of information on the assessor's page.

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Feb 5, 2026

My local one is called the county assessor site.

Right here: Pima County Assessor's

• MassGuy

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Great! Thank you much for posting this. I am posting a general fact sheet/ working sheet and would like to include your post, if that’s okay?

Cheers,
Nin

 

[Ashley74]

I think the person or persons that did that has infiltrated into their lives somehow someway. It’s possible whoever has Nancy has been inside AGs house as well and that’s why LE was there for 3 hours on Saturday taking pictures. Has it been confirmed that there was no warrant and the search was consensual? If LE did not get a warrant I find it hard to believe that they would consider anyone in that house a suspect -MOO

 

[Sundog]

Ransom is now a moot point. It wasnt paid, as directed, to the Preferred BITCOIN account. FBI, LE, and Websleiths do not have a crystal ball as to whether it was legit or not. Family makes the decision. They didn't pay it. They rolled the dice either way. Frankly, I am surprised. What happened to "we will pay" ? MOO

I haven't seen anywhere official that the ransom wasn't paid. I think a lot of us are wondering when we will know that for sure - that either it was paid or wasn't.

 

[nightowl2728]

Yes this makes sense. I was looking at this from public statement point of view. No one is posting on social media that they know AG would never hurt anyone. No media outlet has had some neighbor on saying they always saw NG, AG, and SIL having a great time together.

This is one of the most media covered cases I've seen in a while and yet zero interviews by the media. Nancy Grace would have had half the world on by now making character statements. I haven't even seen a viral Facebook screenshot yet of anyone giving their opinion who knows them or even lives near them.

Someone I know, who is one of the most perceptive people I know, said the same thing early on in this, which seemed odd for a missing person case.

 

[SlimPickens]

I don’t think I expressed myself very well concerning LE. Thanks for pointing it out.
I have no doubt LE was working hard the last week, but I think they were being pulled in too many directions, and could not focus on things because of the kidnapping think.

Reports indicate that LE seems to be reassessing predispositions and reworking theories, which suggests they concur with your analysis. Hopefully they'll have viable information soon, and if they don't hopefully they'll open up at least some of the information they have to the public for more attention, scrutiny, and leads.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

I wonder if the digital service is available on YouTube for later, non-live viewing.

The church does have a youtube channel:

Good Shepherd New York

Good Shepherd New York is an ecumenical church helping people embody the love of Christ for the good of our neighbors.

www.youtube.com

 

[whowy]

if NG is like many seniors she wears the hearing aid when she remembers it or feels like it and not all the time.

Agree. Also, with the price drops - some people have more than one type of hearing assistive device.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

From Good Shepherd Church in NYC: