AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Why not? AB stated she had information from a reliable source without naming and is considered reliable here but DJT who is actually talking to the FBI etc regarding this case shouldn't be considered reliable? Can't have it both ways. Take what info we get with a grain of salt if you want but I think both should be considered reliable IMO
IMO its about looking at the credibility of AB and Trump, not just in the context of Nancy's disappearance and nothing to do with their job titles or political leaning.

Many of us do this with reporters, podcasters, etc. That's why there's always comments about 'X gets things wrong all the time' or 'X is just covering the case for attention' or 'X has been spot on in previous cases'.

Considering past behaviour, objectivity and reliability, I think, in all fairness, it is okay to determine one person seems more trustworthy than another when there aren't LE sources to back it up.
 
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Definitely not 2. A professional kidnapper would not think NG was a good target and would not wait 3 days after kidnapping to request a ransom.
Didn't a news outlet get the first ransom demand on Monday? JMO and recollection.
 
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If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO
Even if he wants to he's probably advised not to.
 
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Did anyone else see Trump made a comment about the case, saying something will come out "reasonably soon" from the DoJ / FBI. When asked if it is a suspect, he says "could be definitive" and that a lot had taken place in the last few hours. AB covered it in her latest video at around 2.22:

 
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I'm hoping that he has been very occupied in an interrogation room.
I know LE/FBI have been at AG’s house several times and have some questions. They could be interviewing each person there, but at what point would they instead interview them at the police station? Maybe this has been done and we’re not aware of it. FBI was photographed carrying out containers from AG’s house a couple days ago, if SIL/AG are not involved, what was removed? And why?! Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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So why is she missing? Due to age/blood thinners, IMO it's entirely possible that her injury was unplanned, may have resulted from her mobility challenges, in which case, she would have gone missing with no sign of injury.
I agree, I wondered if it was unplanned and the bitcoin was an after thought attempt to cover up. also wondered how they know the blood drops were from that night? If she took an Uber to her daughters who can confirm they weren’t there before?
 
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If the ransom notes were sent via email or such, then it is cybercrime and FBI deals with it.
Yes, and they can be involved if the local LE requests help, especially in what will become a high profile case. Many reasons that the FBI can get involved. JMO
 
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I want to see video from that bitcoin machines…. Maybe perp experimented with his/her acct?
Surely, you would do transfers of bitcoin on your own computer?
 
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I'm curious about any thoughts about the timing of this crime? Feb 1st feels very intentional.

I've done some looking into Feb 1st such as the obvious holidays, but can't seem to find anything of importance. The date being the 1st of Feb may have nothing to do with anything, but it's been bothering me.
 
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THE Aphrodite Jones! WOW! Nice to have yo uhere.
The problem is the President says....many things. He has been known to be in error about a lot of situations and speaks "out of turn," IMO.

However as regards to everything else, your points are spot on. Thank you for all of this

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...
Well said. The most important thing at the moment is for the family to get confirmation from the abductor that 1) they are actually communicating with the actual abductor. 2) They recieve proof of life. 3) as the family have already pointed out AI can be used to fake therefore the abductor needs to step up and address this issue.
 
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In addition to the many theories about why this happened, is it possible that NG’s kidnapping is a message to other journalists out there not to cover certain topics in the press? For example, the final batch of the Epstein files were released on 1/30 and NG went missing 2 days later. SG interviewed Epstein survivors in September of 2019. Perhaps she was planning on doing another interview regarding the info in the files or with other survivors? Do you think this could be a possibility? It could be seen as a warning to other journalists.
 
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Taking a moment to collect my thoughts.

NG is missing. That alone makes this an outlier. A break-in or SA, if there was a murder at all, no need to remove the victim. Unless for fear of DNA. But I don't think the details align with that all.

So why is she missing? Due to age/blood thinners, IMO it's entirely possible that her injury was unplanned, may have resulted from her mobility challenges, in which case, she would have gone missing with no sign of injury.

Why?

To hide DNA in the case of SA. If there was SA, I think LE knows that, based on the appearance of the crime scene.

If no obvious signs of SA, again, why is she missing?

Perpetrator needed her alive.

To aid in relocating her? Too heavy to carry? Force her to walk...

In order to swindle her? Take her to an ATM/Bitcoin and hope she has assets she can convert for you?

It's an anomaly. 84 year old victim. Missing. But likely alive when taken from her home.

It's easy to say that ransomers might be capitalizing on a news story. We know of one already.

But what I can't get past is that, if not as a set up for ransom, why was she removed from her home?

JMO
We either have to take the case at face value, that the kidnapper took her for ransom as they have indicated or the taking her for ransom is a manufactured story to stall, throw off to conceal another related crime. At this point we really have to work it as its being portrayed and go from there. LE will slowly rule in or out each detail. Im holding on to faith that shes ok and a break soon!!
 
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I'm curious about any thoughts about the timing of this crime? Feb 1st feels very intentional.

I've done some looking into Feb 1st such as the obvious holidays, but can't seem to find anything of importance. The date being the 1st of Feb may have nothing to do with anything, but it's been bothering me.
We discussed earlier that Silence of the Lambs was released on 31 Jan and 1 Feb 1991 :)
 
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There's no universe where I would be able to remain silent, but everyone is different, and every case is different.

If that universe was full of FBI agents telling you to zip it and family attorneys telling you to let everyone talk themselves into slander, I bet you'd reconsider! 😂

But yeah, it'd be hard as heck for sure!
 
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In addition to the many theories about why this happened, is it possible that NG’s kidnapping is a message to other journalists out there not to cover certain topics in the press? For example, the final batch of the Epstein files were released on 1/30 and NG went missing 2 days later. SG interviewed Epstein survivors in September of 2019. Perhaps she was planning on doing another interview regarding the info in the files or with other survivors? Do you think this could be a possibility? It could be seen as a warning to other journalists.
no. IMO.
 
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I just want to take a minute and apologize to all elders and NG. I have seen reference to “tucking in” so many times. I am the one who originally mentioned tucking my 86 year old mom into bed at night and locking her house up when I left. She didn’t want anyone overnight yet. But as I said, my mom was sick and her hospice days were weeks in the future. I literally helped her get in bed, fixed her sheets and blankets, removed her glasses and kissed her cheek. It was as much for me as it was for her. She died a few weeks later. I certainly did not mean to offend so many and wish I’d never used those words. NG did not need tucking in and I never meant to imply that.
it is fine but so many others used the phrase that as an independent woman in my 70's wanted to make it clear that is on a case by c ase situation. For you and your mother that was great for both of you. From now on if someone implies that anyone over a certain age needs lots of care just going to ignore it and get on with finding Nancy.
 
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Thanks,
All I remembered was speculation of something having been done "recently".
Did you remember if any particular contractor was mentioned?
No, sorry.
 
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Am not very informed about Bitcoin so have to wonder what is the significance if any that the circle K mentioned already has a Bitcoin ATM in it? Bitcoin has already come up in the case in relation to the ransom demand so could it be that this indicates a more local motive like someone addicted to purchasing the crypto currency?
 
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All they’d see is what is in plain sight and if they found anything it would be useless anyway without having a search warrant.
They could get one immediately as they were in there if they spotted anything. They want them with their guard down.
 
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Completely agree. I've also been wondering what SG does next if there are no developments. It's rare journalists and news anchor end up becoming the story, I wonder if a return to Today would be too much for her, and possibly she is rethinking her life after this traumatic experience.
I have too and it depends on the outcome. She has an amazing platform to pivot from and her perspective is going to change after this experience. I just pray it turns out well for them. As time passes so does my hope.
 

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