AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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The flood lights being destroyed is interesting. I’m guessing they’re asking if anyone close to Nancy knew about that. If it was damaged before she went missing - the person close to her may have also known about that (in the family) beforehand or they caught it via the media although the media, I don’t think, ever picked up on it and reported about it. Would someone actually damage them before they went in and kidnapped her. I doubt anyone went up on the roof at 2am and smashed them. Let’s say the SIL was involved, maybe someone did all this when she was away for a few hours that day. I guess flood lights would help a camera see them. It doesn’t sound like the doorbell detected that someone was at the residence before 2am. Then again, you never know.

They could end up arresting someone and never get to the bottom of who was sending the ransom letters. We may end up with suspicions that the person who did it was also behind them but we never get any hard evidence. I swear if the SIL and daughter are behind this, oh, boy… The media will have a field day looking into these two.

Yes, seeing the actual photo of the smashed flood light is alarming. It was hit so hard with an object the brick is even damaged. When there were initial reports of a broken flood light, I was picturing just a non-working light or maybe a broken light lens or cover. Not completely smashed in like that. Clearly intentional and not an accident.

 

[Magic8Ball]

I worked for a CPA firm for 51 years. We would never give thought to exploiting our clients. People with modest incomes as well as high incomes especially those that have lived in the area for 50 yrs have long established professionals they work with all the time. JMO

Not all people who provide financial oversight/help/assistance are trustworthy, credentialed professionals.

I wasn't talking about that angle, anyway...you misunderstood my point.

What I'm talking about is the fact that this is the time of year when individuals are receiving a lot of financial statements detailing transactions that have occurred over the past year, and it's possible that NG had noticed something that didn't make sense to her or that she was questioning.

JMO.

 

[submarine7]

I strongly agree with this. I don't see them needing it as a distraction. If you've committed a crime and are trying to evade law enforcement you distance yourself from the crime and stay under the radar. It's seems like the author of this note is purposely seeking attention. We've seen criminals before who find thrill in feeling 'smarter' than LE. They enjoy the thrill of the cat and mouse game. And they enjoy the media attention and notoriety.

JMO

I agree.

 

[waldojabba]

Is this stating one of the two individuals is who they are looking for as a possible suspect? Both have some sort of id badges, LE would be able to see the details better showing here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020207418714779902

If you don’t have Twitter I don’t think you can see the comments so here is that answer / sorry if already addressed.
JMO

 

[Fromeaster]

But in any case, it was done by a very cruel person, because it is easiest to hurt a child or an old person who can barely move, those who are helpless. Some loser in life.

 

[LRinCA]

Did she have a walker? A lot more room going in through the garage?

In at least one photo with Savannah I have seen her holding a cane. In the first days of this case, it was said she probably couldn't walk more than 50 yards on her own. 50 yards = 150 feet. 150 would be the width of a lot size on a larger home with many homes having a lot width of around 50 feet. It's easier for me to try to imagine distance in that way when thinking of the distance she could walk, probably with her cane, without assistance.

 

[birdbox]

I can't say that I blame them:

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On Saturday, Feb. 7, investigative reporter Jonathan Lee Riches, said that there was a security guard outside of Annie and Tommaso's home.


Security Guard Hired by Annie Guthrie and Tommaso Cioni During Search for Nancy Guthrie

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My theory. Speculation only.

Persons close to Nancy Guthrie who were in dire financial difficulties concocted a hare-brained and desperate plan to hire pro criminals to kidnap her, forcing a wealthy relative to pay the ransom.

They were assured the old lady would be treated well and merely spend a couple of days watching TV in Mexico until the ransom was paid.

Instead, the kidnappers botched the job and Nancy lost her life during the abduction.

The kidnappers continue to issue demands, despite no longer having her alive, and the people who hired them are left holding the bag.

Nancy will likely never be seen or found

 

[CSIDreamer]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

Because you can pull right up to the garage door. She gets out, walks on a completely flat, wide surface the length of the garage to the inside door.

The front door is a longer walk on a sidewalk that isn't near as wide as the garage space.

It's actually safer.

JMO

 

[Jade]

Did she have a walker? A lot more room going in through the garage?

The front door entry does have a tiled small step up.

I’ve noticed many of those western homes set on slabs have no steps at all in the garage which must be great!

All imo

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Is this NG's car:

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-missing-02-07-26

 

[Laura Avery]

So I chat gtped it because it was bothering me, I'd seen it on a Blood Spatter documentary. I thought it looked like an impact splatter.
Ill just copy this small part down, but :
Mist/fine splatter, The cluster of fine, dark spots in the upper right quadrant is characteristic of impact splatter, , finer misted patterns, often caused by forceful or mechanical action.
The V shape could be where there is an arm stopping the blood from attaching to the floor, hence why it is thicker at one end and thinner at the "Hand" end.
Just a thought.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Had a thought…

IF the ransomer made the family say the “talk to her, you’ll see” line, they are immediately in a different category for me. As others have said, the goal may be the attention, or sick thrill. BUT… what if that is it, what if they don’t really even want BTC and just used someone else’s wallet in their demand?

 

[bestill]

Any thoughts on why the second communication didn't go to TMZ and the NBC local affiliate, it only went to KOLD?

 

[Warwick7]

Yes, seeing the actual photo of the smashed flood light is alarming. It was hit so hard with an object the brick is even damaged. When there were initial reports of a broken flood light, I was picturing just a non-working light or maybe a broken light lens or cover. Not completely smashed in like that. Clearly intentional and not an accident.

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Exactly, myself too.

 

[louvillian08]

Just a side note, but the “eagle eyed churchgoer” and their timely phone call have been left out of the official timeline.

JMO but I think it’s significant that such a significant event is not included.

Sorry, could you clarify what you mean by the official timeline? I still see plenty of MSM articles and timelines with this included so I think I missed something. Thank you!

 

[dogmom805]

The flood lights being destroyed is interesting. I’m guessing they’re asking if anyone close to Nancy knew about that. If it was damaged before she went missing - the person close to her may have also known about that (in the family) beforehand or they caught it via the media although the media, I don’t think, ever picked up on it and reported about it. Would someone actually damage them before they went in and kidnapped her. I doubt anyone went up on the roof at 2am and smashed them. Let’s say the SIL was involved, maybe someone did all this when she was away for a few hours that day. I guess flood lights would help a camera see them. It doesn’t sound like the doorbell detected that someone was at the residence before 2am. Then again, you never know.

They could end up arresting someone and never get to the bottom of who was sending the ransom letters. We may end up with suspicions that the person who did it was also behind them but we never get any hard evidence. I swear if the SIL and daughter are behind this, oh, boy… The media will have a field day looking into these two.

Re: the doorbell detecting someone before 2am, LE has reported around 945pm the garage door opened for 2 minutes and then closed. They don't tell us anything prior to that. My understanding was that the doorbell cam wrote over itself after a certain period of time because she didn't have a subscription? So they only have a certain number of hours data available.

 

[cady]

In at least one photo with Savannah I have seen her holding a cane. In the first days of this case, it was said she probably couldn't walk more than 50 yards on her own. 50 yards = 150 feet. 150 would be the width of a lot size on a larger home with many homes having a lot width of around 50 feet. It's easier for me to try to imagine distance in that way when thinking of the distance she could walk, probably with her cane, without assistance.

Probably walked to get her mail

 

[rosiebean]

Wasn’t that verified by LE though? I thought it was.

LE mentioned someone from church in the first press conference (and probably in the first slew of articles in which the sheriff was quoted). There has been at least one media report, however, that said NG did not go to church in person since Covid. In the most recent press conference, LE did not include info or a timestamp about the church member calling in their timeline. On top of that, many things LE said in the beginning have since changed. So, honestly, it’s not clear cut and is a source of speculation for many.

 

[Sadi]

Sorry, I did see the one set of lights were damaged/smashed, but didn’t know if all outdoor lights were? Or indoor cameras? The doorbell camera was battery operated and removed, what camera detected moved after that was removed?

Typo- what camera detected motion after the doorbell camera was removed?

 

[dogmom805]

Did she have a walker? A lot more room going in through the garage?

I believe she did have a walker, correct me if I'm wrong.