AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ZZZZZZZZZZ]

Yes I've seen a few people that bothered. It's definitely not just you.

It doesn't bother me because I can think of a few scenarios where it could be normal, eg mom wants to arrive before SIL gets home, AG has already had a couple glass of wine. Or AG also doesn't like driving at night. SIL only gets home just before NG is leaving so offers to go e her a ride.

But I also can't think of a reason why it would be suspicious. Maybe not very generous at worst, but (genuine question not rhetorical) how do you see it as potentially connected to the crime?

I don't know if it's true or not, but I've read that their homes were only ten minutes apart. I would think that if the card game were planned in advance, AG would have picked NG up. No matter how wealthy you are, Ubers are still expensive. I feel there may have been some tension between NG and either AG or SIL and NG might have taken the Uber to confront the other person. A lot of older people have difficulty seeing to drive at night. Perhaps the tension escalated from there?

 

[Lawnguylander1964]

Wasn’t that verified by LE though? I thought it was.

What I was responding to was the post about how the call from the church member is not on the official LE timeline that was produced at the last press conference.

 

[slowpoke]

Why would NG enter her home via the garage and not the front door? This has been bothering me. The entire garage situation is bothering g me.

I’ve included this pic to show NG’s front door. IMO it’s much more work for her to negotiate those steps leading up to her door, especially considering she is said to walk with a cane. So, going through the garage makes sense, to me.
moo

 

[Starkville]

I'm starting to think that it wasn't a church-goer who called AG but the people who kidnapped NG.

Yes, me too. That whole aspect of the story is fishy to me. I STILL don’t know whether NG regularly attended services every Sunday, or not.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Ehhhh. She said herself “I’ve been at this for 38 years do you think I would throw it away for one story?”

She knows the stakes here. She is very much on an island right now, no one has joined her, and she has not budged over 3 days she continues to double down. If she’s right she deserves credit and if she’s wrong she deserved to get cooked and own it. It will be very damning to her reputation if she’s wrong, as it should be. The stakes are high and they should be, millions of people are paying attention to this. SIL would probably sue her too if he was never truly a suspect.

AB left her show at News Nation in January 2026 to focus on her podcast.
I was thinking that being independent she now has the freedom to report whatever she wants which is why she ran with the info about SIL.
When looking for a source for her departure it says she's still affiliated with NN which may make NN liable if she's sued. ?
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[MCB1151]

I've lurked around and researched old threads on here for awhile but I've never been able to jump on WHILE a case was unfolding.

This is a wild situation. Personally, I'm starting to think the ransom/kidnapping & disappearance are two different crimes being committed, with the ransom for a kidnap return just being someone attempting to take a really unsavory advantage of a sad situation.

Something I saw mentioned a ways back, who knows how far, but sexual assaults on elderly women do happen more than we'd like to think they would. Elderly women don't strike people as "sexually appealing" but we know rape isn't about sex, it's a violent crime of power. For someone who maybe has not previously acted on their desire, an 84 year old woman with a pacemaker and mobility issues is a bit of a "wounded gazelle" in terms of potential victims. Not saying that this is the case here, obviously JMOO but a beginner predator who perhaps had previously encountered NG (whether tangentially known as someone who worked on the home or for NG) may have entered with one crime in mind, a sexual assault, and the next thing you know, between being off balance and blood thinners, bad heart, etc. suddenly someone is deceased...it would not shock me at this point. But the timing of that first ransom demand, the repeat with no new demands, and then ultimately sending it to TMZ? I think that may truly be a different sicko taking advantage of a sad situation.

 

[UsernameRequired]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I've read that their homes were only ten minutes apart. I would think that if the card game were planned in advance, AG would have picked NG up. No matter how wealthy you are, Ubers are still expensive. I feel there may have been some tension between NG and either AG or SIL and NG might have taken the Uber to confront the other person.

Yes, Nancy and AG's homes are only 4 miles apart.

 

[ttjo]

In at least one photo with Savannah I have seen her holding a cane. In the first days of this case, it was said she probably couldn't walk more than 50 yards on her own. 50 yards = 150 feet. 150 would be the width of a lot size on a larger home with many homes having a lot width of around 50 feet. It's easier for me to try to imagine distance in that way when thinking of the distance she could walk, probably with her cane, without assistance.

And no stairs going into the garage either , even though there was only a few out front it can be hard to see at night.

 

[Vegasgrl]

The flood lights being destroyed is interesting. I’m guessing they’re asking if anyone close to Nancy knew about that. If it was damaged before she went missing - the person close to her may have also known about that (in the family) beforehand or they caught it via the media although the media, I don’t think, ever picked up on it and reported about it. Would someone actually damage them before they went in and kidnapped her. I doubt anyone went up on the roof at 2am and smashed them. Let’s say the SIL was involved, maybe someone did all this when she was away for a few hours that day. I guess flood lights would help a camera see them. It doesn’t sound like the doorbell detected that someone was at the residence before 2am. Then again, you never know.

They could end up arresting someone and never get to the bottom of who was sending the ransom letters. We may end up with suspicions that the person who did it was also behind them but we never get any hard evidence. I swear if the SIL and daughter are behind this, oh, boy… The media will have a field day looking into these two.

Some flood lights have cameras. Also, if her flood lights are motion detected, the perp wouldn't want them going off and on while they were smashing cameras. Yesterday when they were looking on the main roof and on the ground, I thought maybe they were looking for rocks that didn't belong there. Maybe the perp was throwing rocks to knock out a camera/flood light that was difficult to disable?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Any thoughts on why the second communication didn't go to TMZ and the NBC local affiliate, it only went to KOLD?

Harvey Levin was interviewed on CNN today and HE thinks the perp is still in the area of the home, in the same town I mean.

 

[Fromeaster]

Investigators searched the house three times. I wonder if they were looking for anything specific?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have an exercise for those of you who wish to try this. Ask your favorite AI or even internet query the demographics of someone who uses bitcoin, follows TMZ, and knows how to use tools to hide their identity on the internet. Then ask what occupations frequently use those tools. Then be creeped out like I am.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

 

[ttjo]

I believe she did have a walker, correct me if I'm wrong.

Well if that’s true then I can see why she’d go through the garage, no stairs, more room.

 

[Cardgame]

Some flood lights have cameras. Also, if her flood lights are motion detected, the perp wouldn't want them going off and on while they were smashing cameras. Yesterday when they were looking on the main roof and on the ground, I thought maybe they were looking for rocks that didn't belong there. Maybe the perp was throwing rocks to knock out a camera/flood light that was difficult to disable?

Oh yes, rocks which might have DNA on!

 

[thefragile7393]

there was some other dude on X saying she was at the bottom of a neighbor's well... All weirdness is coming out

I've seen insanity on FB, reddit.....I've just tried to distance myself because there's just too much going on. Too many people appear to be unhinged in this day and ago IMO

 

[Sadi]

Yes, seeing the actual photo of the smashed flood light is alarming. It was hit so hard with an object the brick is even damaged. When there were initial reports of a broken flood light, I was picturing just a non-working light or maybe a broken light lens or cover. Not completely smashed in like that. Clearly intentional and not an accident.

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Now seeing this much closer, I don’t think the bulbs are able to be accessed for removal.

 

[txsleuth70]

Typo- what camera detected motion after the doorbell camera was removed?

LE has not identified which camera detected motion. It was not the front door camera.

 

[clearskies1]

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My theory. Speculation only.

Persons close to Nancy Guthrie who were in dire financial difficulties concocted a hare-brained and desperate plan to hire pro criminals to kidnap her, forcing a wealthy relative to pay the ransom.

They were assured the old lady would be treated well and merely spend a couple of days watching TV in Mexico until the ransom was paid.

Instead, the kidnappers botched the job and Nancy lost her life during the abduction.

The kidnappers continue to issue demands, despite no longer having her alive, and the people who hired them are left holding the bag.

Nancy will likely never be seen or found again.

This is the best theory I've heard so far. I've been hoping someone would put forward an explanation that makes sense. JMO.

 

[ZZZZZZZZZZ]

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I’ve included this pic to show NG’s front door. IMO it’s much more work for her to negotiate those steps leading up to her door, especially considering she is sad to walk with a cane. So, going through the garage makes sense, to me.
moo

Which makes me wonder why her blood was found outside the front door.

 

[Herat]

Harvey Levin was interviewed on CNN today and HE thinks the perp is still in the area of the home.

Really? Why are we investing belief in a guy that runs a celebrity gossip site?