AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[gitana1]

Watch the ‘We received your message” video without sound and focus on the sisters reaction.

All I know is, the face-covering while in the car, I maintain that that is very odd under the circumstances. It’s just not something someone would think of doing at a time like this, unless they were terrified, perhaps, of a killer coming after them next. But going in front of cameras on tv sort of throws that out of the window.

When a loved one is missing, family are in shock, and just trying to get through each day, going on no sleep but with an electric anxiety coursing through them. All thoughts are for the missing loved one and other family who may be impacted. Not on themselves.

Someone mentioned celebrities like Princess Diana, covering their faces. But she was hounded relentlessly, for years and years, by the paparazzi. That is a different scenario, IMO.

I have been thinking about this case and I just couldn’t reconcile that behavior. I don’t know. I could be wrong but that behavior felt off.

 

[Kemug]

It stood out for me straight away, too - elderly people usually don't want to be out late at night and that's why you'd rather do a lunch than a dinner if they were invited. Unless she is hooked on mahyong and didn't worry about lateness.

I just took up mahjong 2 days ago, I enjoyed it, and they all said I'd soon be addicted. So there's that.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

It depends on the individual. My grandparents were early birds, dinner at 4:30, in bed by 9. My dad, on the other hand, absolute night owl. Even in his 80’s we’d stay up watching TV and talking into the wee hours, 2 or 3 am. As you can guess, I’m a night owl too.

I can see why many want to get off the roads before sundown, but if they’re not driving, who knows how late someone may stay up.

 

[Charlot123]

I don’t think much of it makes sense, family or not.

This has to be one of the strangest cases I’ve heard of.

We have seen stranger ones, we just forget. Imagine how Kelsie Berreth case started. She disappeared, her phone pinged somewhere in Idaho crevice, people thought she was flying and lost it. Her mom said, "they are good, they are loving", about her and P. Frazee, while knowing that she was likely "disappeared" by him. But LE needed a case, and a body.

We may be seeing something similar here, IMO.

 

[Strangeworld]

Does anyone think it's odd that none of NG's friends have spoken out? At least that I've seen. Like her friends from church, the neighborhood, etc.? Or that recent video of her wasn't released in order to ID her (there were just photos).

My friend thought which is why I'm asking. I didn't even think about that to be honest.

Fear?

 

[SlimPickens]

Law enforcement aren't going to use a grief-stricken family as celebrity pawns to catch an unrelated makeshift extortionist, folks. And AG's home is not and has never been an established crime scene.

JMO.

 

[Charlot123]

His name sure sounds Italian to me

Yes, and I bet people here mispronounce it, and he is used to it.

 

[SUNchips]

Fear?

Yes, living in the area the general consensus is fear. Lots of talk this week with family/neighbors about making sure doors are locked and houses are extra secure.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

I'm 43, an absolute early bird but usually in bed by 9! My mum is 79 and regularly up until 11.30pm. I think it's so individual dependent on natural body clocks. I will always be an early bird (I'm in the UK and it's nearly 7am here and I've been up since 4.30!) and my Mum wouldn't be able to go to sleep early.

If this was an accident, it's a hell of a lot of cover up and betrayal of trust of other family members.
If it's premeditated, wt* is that all about?!

If AG/TC's son is the one featured in NG FB post from 5 years ago, he would now be 13.

 

[JDG]

All I know is, the face-covering while in the car, I maintain that that is very odd under the circumstances. It’s just not something someone would think of doing at a time like this, unless they were terrified, perhaps, of a killer coming after them next. But going in front of cameras on tv sort of throws that out of the window.

When a loved one is missing, family are in shock, and just trying to get through each day, going on no sleep but with an electric anxiety coursing through them. All thoughts are for the missing loved one and other family who may be impacted. Not on themselves.

Someone mentioned celebrities like Princess Diana, covering their faces. But she was hounded relentlessly, for years and years, by the paparazzi. That is a different scenario, IMO.

I have been thinking about this case and I just couldn’t reconcile that behavior. I don’t know. I could be wrong but that behavior felt off.

They’d draw less attention by using medical masks, a hat and sunglasses. IMO

It just adds to the weirdness of this case.

Something seems very fishy indeed.

 

[shonyakay]

I do not believe they ever received proof of life because (a) it wasn't possible; and (b) kidnap for ransom may not even be legit.

The last plea from the 3 siblings clearly shows they know their dear mum is not alive.

The first ransom note mentioned that Nancy was alive, scared, and knew what the demand was. They mention a Thursday deadline but gave another deadline Monday where something worse would happen. Monday hasn't came yet.

Someone obviously sent those notes and LE hasn't announced that they know who that is yet.

The FBI has stated that it was up to the family if they wanted to address these notes. Which seems like the FBI aren't convinced they are legit. Although, the family seems to believe that they are.

As time goes on it does seem more like a movie-style themed ransom / kidnap story to cover up a bigger crime.

I'm leaning that it may be an inside job, possibly acquaintance or worker, and I hate to say it, or a family member which we know is usually the case unfortunately.

I just don't understand the point of digital billboards.

If it is a family member and the ransom notes aren't from the perp and have nothing to do with this then the actual perp got lucky because someone chose to do that. Sadly this could hinder a successful prosecution if those notes aren't cleared up.

 

[nightowl2728]

It depends on the individual. My grandparents were early birds, dinner at 4:30, in bed by 9. My dad, on the other hand, absolute night owl. Even in his 80’s we’d stay up watching TV and talking into the wee hours, 2 or 3 am. As you can guess, I’m a night owl too.

I can see why many want to get off the roads before sundown, but if they’re not driving, who knows how late someone may stay up.

Yea I'd be curious to see what Nancy's normal schedule was. I'm sure LE has looked into that.

I think there's a big difference between someone who lives alone and in their mid 80s with mobility issues (and apparently having a 7am church service in the morning? not sure if that was confirmed), than someone just staying up late watching tv in their home, or being in their 60s or 70s, or being in their 80s but NOT having health issues, still living with a spouse, etc., as many people have been weighing in on with their various examples.

That said, I brought it up because I wanted to hear other's thoughts

 

[txsleuth70]

Well, as SIL ( TC) appeared to be the person that took NG back home from the dinner at the home of AG and TC, that would be a very natural person to be the prime suspect.

LE always has to look carefully at the "last known contact" and apparently that would be him.

Yes, goes without saying. Last known contact makes it easier, but potential family member should be considered from get go. Seems natural to think at least two lines of investigation almost every time. Fam - closest to them and Other - outside the perimeter. Baffling when people don't want to look at the family. Would HOPE it would never be family, but that's not reality at least a good deal of the time.

 

[Vegasgrl]

The first ransom note mentioned that Nancy was alive, scared, and knew what the demand was. They mention a Thursday deadline but gave another deadline Monday where something worse would happen. Monday hasn't came yet.

Someone obviously sent those notes and LE hasn't announced that they know who that is yet.

The FBI has stated that it was up to the family if they wanted to address these notes. Which would seem like the FBI aren't convinced they are legit. Although, the family seems to believe that they are.

As time goes on it does seem more like a movie-style themed ransom / kidnap story to cover up a bigger crime.

I'm leaning that it may be an inside job, possibly acquaintance or worker, and I hate to say it, or a family member which we know is usually the case unfortunately.

I just don't understand the point of digital billboards.

If it is a family member and the ransom notes aren't from the perp and have nothing to do with this then the actual perp got lucky because someone chose to do that. Sadly this could hinder a successful prosecution if those notes aren't cleared up.

Now that you mention it, the billboards don't seam to fit. This case doesn't need more awareness and she isn't a typical missing person. I think I remember reading that they were placed strategically? For what reason?

 

[nightowl2728]

Yes, goes without saying. Last known contact makes it easier, but potential family member should be considered from get go. Seems natural to think at least two lines of investigation almost every time. Fam - closest to them and Other - outside the perimeter. Baffling when people don't want to look at the family. Would HOPE it would never be family, but that's not reality at least a good deal of the time.

Yes I'm hesitant to join in any sort of 'witch hunt' against the SIL as I've seen that go south in other cases like with the Moscow Murders, Mollie Tibbitts, etc.

That said it is usually people close to a person, statistically, right?

If it is the case here, it's very upsetting.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

Has anyone mentioned NG's dog? On some local FB pages a lady has commented saying she has house sat for NG and "her precious pup" before. Also, in the Christmas photo NG posted on FB, TC is holding a dog.
I'm asking as, if the dog didn't know whoever took NG, surely they'd have made a hell of a lot of noise? Also, where is the dog?

 

[txsleuth70]

All I know is, the face-covering while in the car, I maintain that that is very odd under the circumstances. It’s just not something someone would think of doing at a time like this, unless they were terrified, perhaps, of a killer coming after them next. But going in front of cameras on tv sort of throws that out of the window.

When a loved one is missing, family are in shock, and just trying to get through each day, going on no sleep but with an electric anxiety coursing through them. All thoughts are for the missing loved one and other family who may be impacted. Not on themselves.

Someone mentioned celebrities like Princess Diana, covering their faces. But she was hounded relentlessly, for years and years, by the paparazzi. That is a different scenario, IMO.

I have been thinking about this case and I just couldn’t reconcile that behavior. I don’t know. I could be wrong but that behavior felt off.

IIRC Laundrie's mom hid or tried to hide her face in a vehicle?

 

[shonyakay]

Yes, goes without saying. Last known contact makes it easier, but potential family member should be considered from get go. Seems natural to think at least two lines of investigation almost every time. Fam - closest to them and Other - outside the perimeter. Baffling when people don't want to look at the family. Would HOPE it would never be family, but that's not reality at least a good deal of the time.

Sadly, that is almost always the case - I.E. Family.

 

[gitana1]

They’d draw less attention by using medical masks, a hat and sunglasses. IMO

It just adds to the weirdness of this case.

Something seems very fishy indeed.

True.

 

[gitana1]

IIRC Laundrie's mom hid or tried to hide her face in a vehicle?

I don’t know. But to me, that would be from a sense of shame.