AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Thanks for the info.
I don't know whether I'm in or out..so much reporting/videos. lol
Whatever was removed from the house would be listed in the warrant and I would think if the white object was evidence it would have been photographed where it was found, sealed and numbered/documented.
imo
It hasn’t even been said that there IS a warrant.
 
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I can pull up limited data in the app. It shows the date/time of past interrogations. Mine are usually around 1:30 am or thereabouts. If the interrogation is successful I can see if my pacemaker recorded any anomalies or concerning events.

If Ms Guthrie's pacemaker sent a data pack the previous night at 2 am the only thing you'd see in the app is a successful transmission the previous night and a disconnected/failure on the night in question. There is no data in between.
FBI contacted UBER driver about pick up of NG and drop off at AG's home ... if I remember correctly around 530 PM
 
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This guy is about on the same level as JLR.
I've had the opportunity to interact with Steve Fischer in relation to a missing hiker case. (I belive he mostly focuses on finding missing people.) In my experience, he is a sincere, reasonable, and hard-working investigator.

JMO
 
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The last video is the body language off? SG and her brother seem like their upper body is turned away from the sister. SG, I can't tell if she is holding her hand but her arms are still crossed. I am interested in body language and think I see something with the sister but it doesn't always mean something. Just curious if anyone else sees what I THINK I am seeing in the body language. I went back and just watched it because someone said watch it with the sound off and pay attention to the sister and that is what I noticed.
I had a similar thought. I'm wondering if I'm just looking for signs that are not really there?
 
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Agreed - we only have the word of AG/TC that they played Mahjong.

Unless that picture of Nancy sitting at a table with the Mahjong game right in front of her is verfied to have been taken at Annie's house Saturday evening.
 
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I haven’t been following since last night so I apologize if this was discussed, but does anyone think there is a specific reason for the $6 million? Why not 5 or 7?
Good point
One might think 5 million or 10 million
 
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I haven’t been following since last night so I apologize if this was discussed, but does anyone think there is a specific reason for the $6 million? Why not 5 or 7?
Might have wanted to take a certain portion of SG's (reported) yearly income of 8mil to make an impact.

That said, 6mil USD is almost exactly 5mil in Euros or 100mil in pesos based on current conversion. Don't necessarily think its relevant, but those are 'cleaner' numbers than 6mil. JMO.
 
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the media is really starting to annoy me today lol The headline is extremely misleading, saying "Boxes" removed from the home.

I didn't see 1 box in any of the videos today or the livestream I watched last night.
 
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It's just inexplicable, if it was SIL I'm surprised it would take this long to build a case and nail him down? Even if he had an accomplice, surely there would be some record of who it was or what they did. Federal, state and local are all working on this, how could he outsmart them all for this long? Who knows though... again, just somehow hoping AG wasn't involved if SIL did do it...
Yup. That’s a really big issue. I would have expected something big by now, especially with all the resources here.
 
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I was so sure this would be a family matter, which is how I feel in almost every case, but now I’m starting to lean the other way. If it’s a family thing, it’s probably financial, and at this rate no one is getting NG’s money any time soon.
What money? Why do you think NG Is wealthy? Plus, whatever she has would probably have to be divided 3 ways ....among her children. For all you know she has a mortgage or reverse mortgage. The person with money is SG. This is NOT a familial money grab from the mom. This is about NBC, SG, a stalker, the appearance at the OLYMPICS..something along those lines. IMO
 
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Occurs to me that if the ransom note writer is not the same as the person who abducted NG then they might still be local.

News of her disappearance and the suspicious nature of it was probably big news locally but maybe not wider?
 
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It seems we are in really insane territory for me to even be asking this question, but how would blood drops be able to be staged? You would need to collect the blood somehow and then you would need a dropper of some sort... and you'd have to do this quickly before the blood coagulated. Would a high school biology teacher have EDTA tubes at his house? It seems unlikely. On the other hand, the blood spots are just too neat-- there are no smears and no shoe prints and the blood doesn't continue past the front porch. If I had to guess, the blood was put there at the same time the camera detected motion.

Also, I watched the entire press conference again and the sheriff did say that they had recovered the doorbell camera. So the perpetrator did not take it, as many have assumed. If you look at the mounting bracket it doesn't look like someone tore the camera off... same for the wood trim... and you would expect there to be damage there, if someone had tore it off (unless they had the security screw driver, which is tedious and time consuming to use). They simply disconnected the WiFi/Internet somehow, maybe by disconnecting the router... but then a CourtTV reporter mentioned an adjacent neighbor had experienced her cameras disconnecting that same night. So maybe cut at the common source for both houses. This would explain the 1:47am disconnect and then no motion detected on camera until 2:12.... the perpetrator had to hike behind the house to disconnect and then to NG's house. Has anyone looked at where the communication/telephone easements are on the property?

The SIL may be a tech nerd; we have no idea what his interests are aside from his band.
 
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So you mean like a mindset of...
I just couldn't imagine doing it because of that. I mean Nancy is 84 and has health issues. If they were so burdened for so many years they didn't have much longer to be so. So hard to word that, I hate knowing some people think their elderly parents are burdens. But no way would that be the reason. If they were tired of being the caretakers they could have told SG it was time to put her in a retirement community since things couldn't be 50/50. Some families DO fight over everything being even and siblings taking their turn in caring for mom or dad.

They may have asked for a loan and never paid her back before and she said no? Maybe SIL snapped and got rough with her and she said she was calling police. It could be ANYTHING that caused what happened in that house to happen that night. Elder abuse happens even in wealthier families. Maybe AG is totally innocent in this and the SIL alone or with cohorts did something and she found out and was threatened if she said anything she or more family members would have problems.

Did I read they suddenly bought a way more expensive home recently? If so, did they get in over their heads and SIL came up with this plot? Is the SIL involved with drugs? Some people do them and don't care because they get heads up when the random drug tests are coming. I want so bad to be wrong about SIL but he is not there supporting his in one single post or video. I still think he might be in custody. Exhausted by this one and it is kicking up my anxiety, that poor lady.
 
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yup and dishes piling up among other things
This rug in front of me has become a black, soft and wooly one. It was straw. Hint: I have a black cat.
 
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Agreed.

If this ransom requester is not associated with the initial physical crime it's possible they know they aren't getting money (because they have nothing to really prove they have her) and are just doing all this for their own cruel fun. MOO
They may figure they have nothing to lose. Send out a few fake ransom notes, even if there is only a chance getting the $millions they are asking for. And if they get no payout they had the celebrity, attention and sick fun.
 
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Yup. That’s a really big issue. I would have expected something big by now, especially with all the resources here.
Yes, and i apologize to the poet musicians out there, but I don't see these two being able to pull this off.
 

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