AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I found this paragraph in this NYT article interesting.

Experts in hostage negotiation said they could detect resignation in the statement, as if the family feared the elder Ms. Guthrie dead. But Mr. Leising, the retired F.B.I. agent, said the wording of the message was purposefully vague, a sign that investigators were not convinced the ransom note was legitimate.

“The possibility that it’s fraudulent, and these people don’t have Nancy, is still high,” Mr. Leising said.


 
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Can anyone who has fox news confirm that they are currently searching in NG's yard near a possible septic tank? Ive only seen it on X and not from reputable source, and not in USA so can't watch!
 
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They won't name a suspect until they are in handcuffs imo

That word "identified" always sticks out to me when they state this.
 
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That's being widely reported, and posted several times in this fast moving thread.

-$6M Ransom
-due Monday 5pm
-or she will be killed

via JJ McKinney from Tucson ABC affiliate KGUN9 reported.

What makes no sense about this part is that paying a ransom via cryptocurrency can happen anytime. It’s not like anyone needs to be waiting around for money drop instructions.

People seem to be thinking Monday at 5 pm some transaction will take place and we’ll see action, but for all any of us know, the money has already been transferred.

I could open my Venmo and send some ransom right now if I wanted to. 😉
 
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We know church members notified the family about Nancy's absence. Who was supposed to pick up Nancy for church that Sunday morning? Wouldn't the alarm have been sounded at that time?
 
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News is showing LE in Nancy's backyard removing ground cover lid of septic/sewer and searching inside.
 
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Yes! I am checking in before sleep and when I first wake up.
That's much more balanced than most of us here! 😂
 
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Can anyone explain why the sheriffs department would be there, but not the FBI?
They are working together on the case. JMO.
 
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Not necessarily. Large topo maps and maps thst might be one of a kind that indicate wells, mines or other structures not avaible on Google maps. There are also written maps that show access roads, paths not mapped digitally.
Thanks, I know, I was just being flippant! I’m usually a Redditor so I’m used to making random jokes in the midst of things.
 
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Regarding criticism of authorities using large printed maps. Think in terms of having an engineer on a job site with blueprints to the house or building, not just a digital house plan you downloaded from eplans.com. Engineers, contractors, city planners still use printed blueprints, maps in addition to digital tools. Everything in the world is not on Google maps. We have giant cad printers to print digital copies of things. Sometimes, bigger is actually better.
 
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My map comment wasn’t intended to cause anything just random saying who carries a map when there are so many other options with more detail and information. Thered need to be a reason imo
I didn’t think you were off base for asking at all . Hope I was nice by replying with the video of Investigators carrying the big rolled up “ what appears to be a map “ so folks could see what we’re talking about. :)
 
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Unless that picture of Nancy sitting at a table with the Mahjong game right in front of her is verfied to have been taken at Annie's house Saturday evening.

I haven't seen that photo... but good point.
 
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While there may be many reasons as mentioned to use a paper map, I'm thinking this is more likely blueprints, for either NG's house or AG's.
Hidden attic or crawl space?
 
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