AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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My map comment wasn’t intended to cause anything just random saying who carries a map when there are so many other options with more detail and information. Thered need to be a reason imo
I didn’t think you were off base for asking at all . Hope I was nice by replying with the video of Investigators carrying the big rolled up “ what appears to be a map “ so folks could see what we’re talking about. :)
 
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Unless that picture of Nancy sitting at a table with the Mahjong game right in front of her is verfied to have been taken at Annie's house Saturday evening.

I haven't seen that photo... but good point.
 
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While there may be many reasons as mentioned to use a paper map, I'm thinking this is more likely blueprints, for either NG's house or AG's.
Hidden attic or crawl space?
 
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What makes no sense about this part is that paying a ransom via cryptocurrency can happen anytime. It’s not like anyone needs to be waiting around for money drop instructions.

People seem to be thinking Monday at 5 pm some transaction will take place and we’ll see action, but for all any of us know, the money has already been transferred.

I could open my Venmo and send some ransom right now if I wanted to. 😉
Not following. They want the bitcoin paid by a deadline or they'll kill the lady. Pressure to get paid. Apparently they have not received any ransom payment yet and are upping the ante with a deadline and a threat.
 
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GRID SEARCH: Photos obtained by Fox News Digital from Liam Young show investigators carrying what appears to be a topographical map at a staging area near Nancy Guthrie’s Tucson, Arizona home on Thursday.Authorities were also seen carrying a map into the Pima County Sheriff’s Office on Saturday, though it was unclear what the contents were.“It looks like something they were going to use to grid out to keep track of search areas,” Paul Mauro, a retired NYPD inspector, told Fox News Digital. “So my guess is they were still searching then – and may still be.”

 
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That, to me should of been a first thing as well to have been investigated. The outbuildings, inside the home, outside the home and DEF that sewer tank! IMO Awful, now let's see if that finds her, so awfully. IMO
 
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What money? Why do you think NG Is wealthy? Plus, whatever she has would probably have to be divided 3 ways ....among her children. For all you know she has a mortgage or reverse mortgage. The person with money is SG. This is NOT a familial money grab from the mom. This is about NBC, SG, a stalker, the appearance at the OLYMPICS..something along those lines. IMO

Strongly disagree with your perception of Mom. She had a very good job at the University for very many years, and has owned her home since 1975. Universities tend to have excellent investment programs---especially for a person with so many years there.
I would conclude that Mom was in fine shape financially.
Perhaps this is all still about SG....
but just wanted to highlight the most probably picture of Mom.
 
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They won't name a suspect until they are in handcuffs imo
And they want everyone to keep talking and not lawyer up, so they don't want anyone to be declared a suspect, because that is when they lawyer up. LE also needs a body. Once this eventually hits a jury, no body is harder to prove a crime. If you have a body, usually you can find cause of death, then you might find a murder weapon. Lots to gain from getting a body. Anyone remember Kyron Horman case? Never found; stepmother did it IMO. LE never could bring charges because they really needed more physical evidence. (I lived just a few miles from where he disappeared and followed the case very, very, very closely. I worked out at the gym that they went to. For years the gym still had a fence with Kyron's picture, balloons, and flowers for him....)
 
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I found this paragraph in this NYT article interesting.

Experts in hostage negotiation said they could detect resignation in the statement, as if the family feared the elder Ms. Guthrie dead. But Mr. Leising, the retired F.B.I. agent, said the wording of the message was purposefully vague, a sign that investigators were not convinced the ransom note was legitimate.

“The possibility that it’s fraudulent, and these people don’t have Nancy, is still high,” Mr. Leising said.


So, the family is gong to pay, although investigators are not convinced the ransom is legitimate? Wow. Then what if it's not? Back to zero in the investigation.
 
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I wonder if the kidnapper did not think that it would become this huge of a story, and now, it has become a far more unmanageable situation than expected.
Anything is possible here.
 
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I found this paragraph in this NYT article interesting.

Experts in hostage negotiation said they could detect resignation in the statement, as if the family feared the elder Ms. Guthrie dead. But Mr. Leising, the retired F.B.I. agent, said the wording of the message was purposefully vague, a sign that investigators were not convinced the ransom note was legitimate.

“The possibility that it’s fraudulent, and these people don’t have Nancy, is still high,” Mr. Leising said.


I am not convinced she was kidnapped still. I still think it could be family related and the kidnapping ransom is a completely separate crime.
 
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I am wondering if there is a certain skill set needed for the bit coin and multiple IP addresses. Example of cartel or blue collar type individual/s.
Great question. Can someone with experience/knowledge please provide some insight? Thank you
 
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While there may be many reasons as mentioned to use a paper map, I'm thinking this is more likely blueprints, for either NG's house or AG's.
Or possibly mine locations
 
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Just a thought . . . if TC/SIL is considered a suspect, is it safe for SG and CG to stay in the same house where he is staying? Desperate people do desperate things.

A few people mentioned body language, primarily SG's. Could these thoughts be concerning SG? I know they would drive me nuts and I would have to find another place to stay.
 

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