AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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JMO
The reason they picked the word “celebrate”, is because Nancy has passed. I could be wrong.
I agree “ celebrate with her” is awkward. I think this means they want her body back to have a proper funeral and body burial.

I thought of CELEBRITE…UFED Touch2..Universal Forensic Extraction Device

Play with words..?


Cheers,
Nin
 
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where are you getting this data??? Please show us a link....

I have a well constructed time-line of hard facts, that was created by a WSer...
but it shows no "checking on" or anything about this 11:56.

This is a big deal, and really does alter the thinking... so hope to get the facts link.
tia.
I think OP is referring to them checking on NG the next morning at 11:56am shortly after they got a worried call from one of NG's church going friends.
 
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Would authorities possibly keep the information private?
I’m not sure they could do that IF an arrest i actually made. But they can “detain” for a certain period of time before arresting and I don’t think that has to be released and while I don’t know all the rules about such things i do know that sometimes they don’t want to make the arrest too early because then they only have a certain amount of time for a defendant to go before a judge - I guess to consider bail or something - and they like to have all their ducks in a row before they reach that point.
 
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The search of AG's house really intrigues me. I can imagine a search at the start of the investigation, that makes total sense. But to return late at night a week later, and possibly be using Luminol (given reports about the dim lighting/photography) seems very strange. Could this be done as a matter of routine, just to rule out the local family members?

Was anyone else at the dinner besides TC and AG?

(Hi everyone. I have been a member of WS's various iterations since the very, very early days when the main focus was JonBenet, but haven't been around much in recent years. So grateful for all of your info and observations regarding this case. It's so tragic and yet fascinating.)

I do not believe anyone has been able to answer your question..
Very early, we were trying to figure that out.
The only suggestion (as far as I can recall) was the child of AG and TC..


It would have been nice if they had taken pictures!!!!!
 
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JMO
The reason they picked the word “celebrate”, is because Nancy has passed. I could be wrong.
I agree “ celebrate with her” is awkward. I think this means they want her body back to have a proper funeral and body burial.
Agreed. They could have said, "so we can have a loving homecoming and reunion and hug her tightly." As soon as I heard the word, "celebrate" I thought immediately of "Celebration of Life".
 
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I know, right? I really do always think about this. My poor husband and kids would be saying no but you don’t know her. She probably did this or this or this. And LE would think they were absolutely crazy. I’ll go to get a Diet Coke at the nearby circle K and end up sitting in my car for an hour checking emails. Life 360 is a great thing for people like me. lol
And it would appear there was a struggle in my situation, always. Agree on the Life360 lol

I think this illustrates though how difficult it can be to decipher intentions/movements/actions not just from behind a computer screen but literally standing in a crime scene. Sometimes things make obvious sense. Sometimes it's just chaos you hope you can put together.
 
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I think her health and mobility wasn’t that bad or else they would have picked her up, I don’t think the Uber thing is particularly suspicious or odd.
Do we know for sure who ordered the Uber?
 
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Agreed. They could have said, "so we can have a loving homecoming and reunion and hug her tightly." As soon as I heard the word, "celebrate" I thought immediately of "Celebration of Life".
celebration of life, either way. Just produce our Mom.
 
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Has there been an explanation as to why the vigil for NG was held at a different church? This article points out that zoom attendees had to register for the online services at the church she regularly attended, and so anyone with access could know if NG had attended last Sunday.


"A source speaking to the Daily Mail revealed that Nancy Guthrie had not physically attended St Andrew's Presbyterian Church since the Covid-19 pandemic began, choosing instead to participate in worship "online."

The church, where Nancy had been a congregant for 30 years, conducts three Sunday service Zoom sessions each week. Yet, despite the source's claims, Irish Star US has learned that participants are required to register using their full names to access the virtual gatherings.

This means anyone with access to the attendance records could have verified whether the 84-year-old was present. Nevertheless, the unnamed source spoke warmly of Nancy, stating, "It's a big church, and we know everyone. Nancy is known and loved here and in the whole community. She was a faithful member here for so long, just a lovely person."

Interestingly, although Nancy had belonged to St Andrew's Presbyterian Church for 30 years, her memorial vigil took place at a different location. On February 4, parishioners and supporters gathered at Saint Philip's in the Hills, the church attended by Nancy's daughter, Annie."
 
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Would authorities possibly keep the information private?
Ive been looking as well. LOL I dont think they would keep that private ---- LE is looking kinda bad in all of this, and they would need the win.
 
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oh I agree with this....
But all my service calls were just that--- service calls.
Not LE calls....

Racking my brain trying to think of what might still be traceable in the water or tank....
I know nothing about these tanks. There was a truck or trailer at the NG home a few days ago. Some thought it was to drain the tank, others thought it could be a power washer set-up. Do we know what happened with that? Also, the opening is very large.
 
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Thanks for bringing this forward @CandyKiss , it is the same timeline I have.

It says nothing about anyone going back to check on Nancy,
and the last date stamp is 9:48 when she was dropped off is the FACT of what we have known

Saturday, Jan. 31​

  • 5:32 p.m. — Nancy Guthrie takes an Uber to her family's home for dinner
  • 9:48 p.m. — Guthrie is dropped off at her Tucson, Arizona, home by a family member. The garage door opens
  • 9:50 p.m. — The garage door closes

I would encourage anyone to make a copy of this timeline---to allow for a memory checks, and hopefully a reduction of incorrect information
It’s the next morning at 11:56 they go back and check on her. Why did they? No one knows. LE removed it.
 
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They were not probing a septic tank with no mask or gloves. It had to be some type of cistern/water tank. I think they are going back and researching the property because they don't want to miss anything.
I agree. They would have a septic waste company pump truck do this. I’ve observed my friends septic being pumped. It’s hazardous waste.
 
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AB crossed the line revealing what she did - when she did.
Yes, agree she crossed a line... but with her "integrity" it does not surprise me -
The BIGGER line crossed IMO is by the "leaker", the person involved with the investigation feeding her the information- That person knows she is reporting the info -
So what's the leaker's end game ?
The leaker is said by AB to be at the highest level -

JMO
 
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Why is everyone so hung up on money and financial worth of the family? It really sounds mercenary. IMO, it's been a week and only last night did they say "we will pay". They know no more now than theu did when she disappeared and no money has changed hands and 530 tomorrow is a deadline. Playing games as to if the ransom demand is real or not, is risky business. They waited too long. IMO, this woman will not be recovered alive. Too much BS..red herrings like the AB story about TC, and wayyyy too much time wasted. Why would you barter for your mother's life? JMO.. I am getting disgusted with the obsession as to who is worth what and who pays. You can always make more money but you cant make more time. MOO
Kidnapping usually involves a request for a monetary ransom. I think that's why there is a financial focus. And, if this truly is a legit Kidnapping, premeditated, then they knew the family (i.e. SG) had the means to pay it. Kidnappers don't go to a run-down trailer park to take some for ransom! 😄
 
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dbm
 
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Isn't TC a middle school teacher? School personnel would know whether or not he was at school last week.
Surely he would have been on emergency leave because his MIL was missing regardless of anything else
 
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I'm chatting with my best friend right now because her and I always get into these types of cases together. She is a defense attoryeny in Seattle. This was her thoughts and she made some good points especially about knowing about Nancy's pacemaker being connected to the watch!


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How do we know that the perpetrator knew about the pacemaker? Wasn’t sure if I missed something.

They cut the doorbell camera but it seems there was at least one more camera they weren’t aware of.
 
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