AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ab01]

If warrants are being served, then they should be docketed somewhere, even if it’s under seal.

Search warrants are generally not immediately put on public record; they are typically kept confidential while the investigation is active and the search is being executed to prevent the destruction of evidence
. While warrants become public record after they are served, they can be sealed by a judge to protect ongoing investigations or privacy.
Key Details Regarding Search Warrant Records:

• Timing of Disclosure: Warrants usually become available for public inspection only after they have been executed (served) and, often, only after charges have been filed.
• Sealed Warrants: Courts can seal affidavits and warrants, keeping them out of the public domain, particularly if the information within them could compromise an investigation.
• Accessing Records: Once no longer sealed, search warrants, including supporting affidavits, become part of the court record.
• Warrant vs. Affidavit: While the warrant itself might be public, the supporting affidavit (which outlines the probable cause) is sometimes sealed for a longer period.

In summary, they are rarely immediately public, as keeping them secret is often necessary for the initial phase of a criminal investigation. MOO

 

[StarryStarryNight]

First, to me, the goings on at AG’s house last night legitimizes the thoughts that SIL is a suspect. We don’t really know why but something early on caused LE to look at him and they still are.
Second, unless this is the biggest ruse ever by LE, there is someone actually communicating with the family about a ransom.
1 + 1 should equal 1 in this case, yet it seems like 1 + 1 equals 2 separate things right now.
I am so confused.

 

[turaj]

It is reported that neighbors near AG home were asked for security camera footage but they don't have cameras. I find that interesting.....expect that near NG but must want to confirm coming and going at AG home.

 

[Cipher Vale]

How do we feel about the thought that the suspect has been in custody since last night, lawyered up, and isn't officially charged with anything because his lawyer making sure he refuses any statements that implicate him.

This may explain search warrants being executed at AG and NG properties fairly close to each other. Questioning while in custody revealing additional info of where evidence is. A good lawyer would allow some cooperation but not allow an outright admission of guilt.

No more public statements because they've got their man and dont need public help anymore

 

[BrittMontero]

Regarding the Uber, I don't find it strange. My elderly neighbor (93) uses Uber even though she has a son a few blocks away and a 40-something grandson nearby. She gave up driving last year and loves to order Ubers.

It could be that AG and TC were running errands, working out or whatever right up to the time of the dinner, and NG said "Oh don't worry I'll just grab an Uber over."

I wonder if AG or TC have a garage-door opener for NG's house in their car, to make it easier to go in and out. Most garage door units come with multiple clickers. Or, the control pads attached to the frame of the door. Anyone with the code could get in.

 

[Bathman]

This appears to be her address.

https://www.redfin.com/AZ/Tucson/5820-N-Camino-Escalante-85718/home/50383723

I just looked at it on google earth and coincidentally I’d just been looking at the old Mohave Desert Phone booth location. It doesn’t seem that far apart. Completely unrelated, mind.

 

[gin2]

Has there been an explanation as to why the vigil for NG was held at a different church? This article points out that zoom attendees had to register for the online services at the church she regularly attended, and so anyone with access could know if NG had attended last Sunday.

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/198246/nancy-guthrie-missing-anonymous-tip-uncovers-church-attendance-details-case

"A source speaking to the Daily Mail revealed that Nancy Guthrie had not physically attended St Andrew's Presbyterian Church since the Covid-19 pandemic began, choosing instead to participate in worship "online."

The church, where Nancy had been a congregant for 30 years, conducts three Sunday service Zoom sessions each week. Yet, despite the source's claims, Irish Star US has learned that participants are required to register using their full names to access the virtual gatherings.

This means anyone with access to the attendance records could have verified whether the 84-year-old was present. Nevertheless, the unnamed source spoke warmly of Nancy, stating, "It's a big church, and we know everyone. Nancy is known and loved here and in the whole community. She was a faithful member here for so long, just a lovely person."

Interestingly, although Nancy had belonged to St Andrew's Presbyterian Church for 30 years, her memorial vigil took place at a different location. On February 4, parishioners and supporters gathered at Saint Philip's in the Hills, the church attended by Nancy's daughter, Annie."

Corrected. NG attended a Presbyterian church. Her daughter attended an Episcopal church. I still don't think it odd to have a service at the church the daughter attends.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Still seems insensitive to me. And I have no idea if they were both cooking or grilling and too busy to assist her by picking her up. It wouldn't take them that long to manage picking her up. JMOO

I get your point. I would never do that to my parents, but everyone is different. If they had been drinking, it was a wise choice of course.
However, no mention of alcohol, so IDK.

 

[jellybean96]

LE could very well stop speculation about the SIL...but they aren't. They aren't clearing anyone in the family (though, I assume Savannah was in NY but haven't looked that up). To me, thats the biggest sign of all.

 

[skyedaze]

I know nothing about these tanks. There was a truck or trailer at the NG home a few days ago. Some thought it was to drain the tank, others thought it could be a power washer set-up. Do we know what happened with that? Also, the opening is very large.

That's not a septic tank in BE's post.

 

[anonypotomous]

Septic/well records that were pulled for Nancy's home. They have no record of a well and state they are connected to the City of Tucson water services. For septic it looks like they had a smaller septic tank that caused drain field failure back in 1991, so they then had 1,000 gallon septic tank installed. Here is the map portion of the approved permitting paperwork if anyone is curious.

 

[emigrate]

I don’t think the perp could care less what we are thinking or posting. They have their hands full right now.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

Have we ever had actual perps sign up and come in and converse, of course not letting us know they are the perp. Do they ever sign up and come in asking questions like trying to use this place to help them hide things or escape, like with questions that gave them away?

 

[Bridger]

In regards to so many saying the search at AG house last night confirms he is/they are suspects, surely for the sake of a future trial of anyone else, LE would want to be able to say, "We searched the SIL's house repeatedly, luminoled it, processed their vehicles, etc. and found absolutely no evidence they were involved. And we have pictures of the luminol tests to prove there's no blood there!" At this point, if SIL hasn't been arrested after all that scrutiny, it makes me think he's less likely to have been involved rather than more.

 

[mikeshanty]

LE could very well stop speculation about the SIL...but they aren't. They aren't clearing anyone in the family (though, I assume Savannah was in NY but haven't looked that up). To me, thats the biggest sign of all.

I don't know.

With each day that passes, does it not become less likely the case will ever be solved?

Aren't the first few days sort of critical in missing person cases? And a week with nothing is not a great sign?

 

[MCB1151]

I’m not sure they could do that IF an arrest i actually made. But they can “detain” for a certain period of time before arresting and I don’t think that has to be released and while I don’t know all the rules about such things i do know that sometimes they don’t want to make the arrest too early because then they only have a certain amount of time for a defendant to go before a judge - I guess to consider bail or something - and they like to have all their ducks in a row before they reach that point.

You can detain, but in most jurisdictions there's a 72 hour window where "detained on suspicion of XYZ" has to ultimately end in release or an arrest & arraignment before a judge.

not an expert/not a professional/all my opinion, speculation, etc etc

 

[Derdew]

An 84 year old frail woman who is in constant pain and requires a walking cane to walk cannot physically take off seatbelt, grab her belongings (purse, walking cane, maybe coat), and get out of a car and inside home via garage in 120 seconds. The front of house entry way had lights on. Why have an elderly woman enter house through garage? I think the crime started after Uber driver dropped NG off at Tucson sister's house.

But I don’t think its been established that she didn’t use a keypad to get into garage in which case she would only be standing there waiting for garage door to open them close it again after walking into garage. Am I misunderstanding somethg?

 

[Knox]

I agree. They would have a septic waste company pump truck do this. I’ve observed my friends septic being pumped. It’s hazardous waste.

Residential septage is not hazardous waste.

 

[bajaflash]

I’m not sure they could do that IF an arrest i actually made. But they can “detain” for a certain period of time before arresting and I don’t think that has to be released and while I don’t know all the rules about such things i do know that sometimes they don’t want to make the arrest too early because then they only have a certain amount of time for a defendant to go before a judge - I guess to consider bail or something - and they like to have all their ducks in a row before they reach that point.

Yes. Prosecutors get a certain number of hours (idk if it changes between states) before a defendant must be either charged or released from custody. In california that would be 48 hours not including weekends.

 

[emigrate]

I seriously think that Pima County is keeping the podcasters/reporters/media busy with these searches so they can do their real work behind the scenes.

Which means the media always buzzing around and them having to use manpower better spent elsewhere to keep them busy, man that is insance. I have a real love/hate relationship with internet and media.

 

[SaraSmile]

Also as you all remember with Kaylee Anthony delaying the discovery of a body and it being highly decomposed when found can help a person get away with the crime. Its much harder to deal with a totally decomposed body. A biology teacher would get that.

I go to AZ and Mexico a lot. I was thinking about a person driving with a DB, out into a remote desert area, to dump body( sorry). The desert is vast, quite drivable with dirt roads and washes.

Going on memory, it was stated earlier, a person is down to skeleton in 3 weeks, it’s so dry and sun baked, very little rain. Some immigrants try to cross the desert, perish, are just left out there.

It would be unlikely that Nancy would be found, if she was driven 10 miles from town, deposited somewhere in the desert.