AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Vegasgrl]

There are also insurance policies that public/high risk people can get that do cover random demands, etc. I am not sure if those policies are written in such a way that coverage is the holder's own kidnapping OR where the policy holder is the one paying ransom.

Furthermore, SG is a public figure with a contractually guaranteed compensation amount. You can bet her bank can underwrite a $6mil loan based just off her expected compensation and assets she owns as collateral

They normally do not include a parent. And, most work as reimbursements after the ransom is paid. Kidnapping in MANY parts of the world is not as uncommon as many believe . Usually involves high end business types that are covered through employer. Ransom is paid and person is returned relatively unharmed. These are almost never advertised in any way.

 

[ReadySet]

Bringing the timeline again for all of our memories:

5:32 p.m.	Guthrie takes an Uber to her daughter Annie's home for dinner.
9:48 p.m.	Guthrie is dropped off by her son-in-law and Annie's husband, Tommaso Cioni.
9:50 p.m.	Guthrie's garage door is closed at 9:50 p.m. Tommaso reportedly drives off at this time.

Saturday, January 31, 2026

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1:47 a.m.	A doorbell camera at Guthrie's home disconnects.
2:12 a.m.	Software detects someone on one of the other cameras, but no video is available.
2:28 a.m.	Guthrie's pacemaker app is disconnected from her phone.
~11 a.m.	A churchgoer calls Guthrie's family to report that Guthrie never made it to church.
11:56 a.m.	Relatives arrive at Guthrie's home and discover that she is missing.
12:03 p.m.	Guthrie's family calls the police.
12:15 p.m.	Police from the Pima County Sheriff's Department arrive.

Sunday, February 1, 2026
More here:

A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie

Five days into the desperate search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie, investigators on Thursday released a detailed timeline.

www.pbs.org

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Your PBS link doesn't say NG dropped off by SIL. It says family member.

 

[louvillian08]

Here's that snippet from the article:

"Ms. Guthrie, whom friends have described as a devoted Christian, was expected at church that Sunday morning. But when someone at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian did not see her in the pews, they called her family to check in.

Alerted, Ms. Guthrie’s family rushed to her home, the authorities said. They found her phone, wallet, hearing aid, daily medication and car. But they did not find her. They called 911."

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/08/us/nancy-guthrie-savannah-guthrie-family.html

IIRC, the only places reporting that she only attended church virtually were Daily Mail and The Sun. I’m not sure what to make of the church attendance story anymore lol. So much back and forth BUT it does seem that her absence, whether virtual or physical, would have been noticed. And you can see on the church website that you need an account to access the live stream and you can see participants, there’s a chat option, etc.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

I mentioned this earlier (and saw someone else mention it even before me), but the 6mil USD amount translates neatly into some other currencies, such as the Euro (5mil) and Peso (100mil). The person might not be international, but may be trying to look international. Who knows at this point. JMO.

And it’s possible they’re trying to make it clear it’s 6 million USD, not six million BTC (bitcoin), ETH (ethereum), or any of the thousands of other cryptocurrencies. It could still be a domestic person, just operating in the crypto world.

(Yes, 6M BTC or ETH would be ridiculously huge amounts, but just to make the example).

 

[Chainspell]

I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho

I personally don't think it's strange either (American here), especially with the vague details we've gotten about the IP being hard to track (supposedly). I do think the amount itself is interesting, but I'm not willing to speculate the significance of it besides possibilities of trying to give a certain impression with the number, if that makes sense.

But I think for a lot in the US it could come off as strange. Spur of the moment thought, it's interesting they specified the currency, but not timezone (allegedly, from what we've heard from press conferences/media). Why one and not the other?

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho

I’ve never seen anyone in the US put “USD” behind a money amount. You’d say $6 million or 6 million dollars, not USD.

ETA: I shouldn’t say EVER seen anyone put that but it is pretty uncommon

 

[maskedwoman]

You don't believe the pacemaker communicating with the iphone/watch is evidence she made it back home?

I suppose that situation could be manipulated but find that unlikely as it would most likely involve extra steps in the process.

Its not clear to me that she wouldn't have had the apple phone with her all evening. Does the timeliness indicate when it started communicating or only when it stopped?

 

[Diddian]

Our vacation/lake house had a septic tank...that's too big an opening for septic. And the tanks are usually close to the house with the field drains going outward, downhill and away.

That tank with the larger diameter opening could be an OLDER tank. It appears it has concrete sides and that was true on older tanks, whereas newer ones are made of some kind of composite material.

The map that was provided a few posts back also and notations indicating that the septic system behind the guest house had at one time failed. It is likely that a new tank and possibly new drain field laterals were installed nearby the old one that was left in place in the ground.

The fact that we can see 2 of 24" round septic tank covers that have been removed that are not far from this larger diameter tank with cover suggests to me that this larger, older tank is the one that failed.

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

But according to the info @Fargo gave about pacemakers, we don't know exactly when she was removed from the house. The pacemaker is only "interrogated" once a day....at night. She may have been taken much earlier than 2:28am.

Pacemaker interrogation is different than the normal signals it transmits.

 

[Wsimm]

I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho

Never have I once used USD living my lifetime in the US. I have used that while traveling through.

 

[Bodhi]

Her home is on city water. Those covers appear to be entrance points to the main water distribution system. That system, or portion thereof, may be what was outlined on the map investigators were seen carrying into the sheriff's office Friday. If a cover was off and it was dark and someone was walking along and did not know it was there, they could easily fall in.
moo

Thank you for the info. The headlines in other posts call it sewer or septic tank. I was skeptical about the reporting and didn't click the links. I appreciate your information. I believe you know what you are talking about.

 

[aafromaa]

I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho

Not really but on the other hand I work for an international hotel chain and often have to specify USD on info requests and sometimes I find myself putting USD on non-work related things without thinking so I don’t read much into the USD either.

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020557653588726267

 

[SMK777]

I can imagine them discussing the finances (that could be comingled by that time) and I can imagine if the push was too huge, Nancy grabbing her cellphone to call Savannah or Camron, to talk to them about it, and her SIL grabbing it from her hand and her accidentally falling.

The rest, however, seems too planned.



Well, if Savannah's finances were in any way the topic, it only illustrates how right SG was in keeping her in-law as far from her life as possible!

I imagine a different situation. Could a provincial and not too savvy BIL, knowing that his SIL rubbed shoulders with "the famous and the mighty", harbor the hope that SG could promote his music to the top of the charts? Something irrational. Just my idea.

That's a thought, yes. Or even asked for NG's help.

 

[Inthedetails]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

 

[Ms. Blue Belle]

I would imagine that with her profile, the bank would advance the funds. Possibly even with additional guarantee from her employer. She could reimburse out of her assets under less time-sensitive duress. Her husband reportedly is wealthy, too.

 

[turaj]

I think this is a good thing because you don't want people going on the property and tampering with a crime scene.

and they finally get to this after one week. Apparently there has been no one out there at night. Hard to believe.

 

[thefragile7393]

Never have I once used USD living my lifetime in the US. I have used that while traveling through.

And that’s an interesting detail. Why would you put USD because duh, of course this is America so why would you specify that?

truly makes me wonder if all of this is nonsense and they’re actually being scammed by somebody out of the country

 

[mickey2942]

She uses a cane.

So was that gone or present? I did not see that in the list of things in the home.

 

[EJB123456]

From that map, it looks like NG's property has TWO septic systems - 1 for the guest house and another for the main house, and it also appears that the 1 for the guest house is the second that has been there, installed after another failed.

I’ve been looking at the drone footage looking for the location of the septic tank on google maps, I think I’ve found it here circled in red, it’s behind the neighbours house.

Septic/well records that were pulled for Nancy's home. They have no record of a well and state they are connected to the City of Tucson water services. For septic it looks like they had a smaller septic tank that caused drain field failure back in 1991, so they then had 1,000 gallon septic tank installed. Here is the map portion of the approved permitting paperwork if anyone is curious.

Yes but look what @Springplease found!!!!! Based on video/pics of the hvacs and wall, it doesn’t look like they are on NG’s property!