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I think this is a good thing because you don't want people going on the property and tampering with a crime scene.
They normally do not include a parent. And, most work as reimbursements after the ransom is paid. Kidnapping in MANY parts of the world is not as uncommon as many believe . Usually involves high end business types that are covered through employer. Ransom is paid and person is returned relatively unharmed. These are almost never advertised in any way.There are also insurance policies that public/high risk people can get that do cover random demands, etc. I am not sure if those policies are written in such a way that coverage is the holder's own kidnapping OR where the policy holder is the one paying ransom.
Furthermore, SG is a public figure with a contractually guaranteed compensation amount. You can bet her bank can underwrite a $6mil loan based just off her expected compensation and assets she owns as collateral
Your PBS link doesn't say NG dropped off by SIL. It says family member.Bringing the timeline again for all of our memories:
Saturday, January 31, 2026
5:32 p.m. Guthrie takes an Uber to her daughter Annie's home for dinner. 9:48 p.m. Guthrie is dropped off by her son-in-law and Annie's husband, Tommaso Cioni. 9:50 p.m. Guthrie's garage door is closed at 9:50 p.m. Tommaso reportedly drives off at this time.
Sunday, February 1, 2026
1:47 a.m. A doorbell camera at Guthrie's home disconnects. 2:12 a.m. Software detects someone on one of the other cameras, but no video is available. 2:28 a.m. Guthrie's pacemaker app is disconnected from her phone. ~11 a.m. A churchgoer calls Guthrie's family to report that Guthrie never made it to church. 11:56 a.m. Relatives arrive at Guthrie's home and discover that she is missing. 12:03 p.m. Guthrie's family calls the police. 12:15 p.m. Police from the Pima County Sheriff's Department arrive.
More here:
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A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie
Five days into the desperate search for 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie, investigators on Thursday released a detailed timeline.www.pbs.org
IIRC, the only places reporting that she only attended church virtually were Daily Mail and The Sun. I’m not sure what to make of the church attendance story anymore lol. So much back and forth BUT it does seem that her absence, whether virtual or physical, would have been noticed. And you can see on the church website that you need an account to access the live stream and you can see participants, there’s a chat option, etc.Here's that snippet from the article:
"Ms. Guthrie, whom friends have described as a devoted Christian, was expected at church that Sunday morning. But when someone at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian did not see her in the pews, they called her family to check in.
Alerted, Ms. Guthrie’s family rushed to her home, the authorities said. They found her phone, wallet, hearing aid, daily medication and car. But they did not find her. They called 911."
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/08/us/nancy-guthrie-savannah-guthrie-family.html
And it’s possible they’re trying to make it clear it’s 6 million USD, not six million BTC (bitcoin), ETH (ethereum), or any of the thousands of other cryptocurrencies. It could still be a domestic person, just operating in the crypto world.I mentioned this earlier (and saw someone else mention it even before me), but the 6mil USD amount translates neatly into some other currencies, such as the Euro (5mil) and Peso (100mil). The person might not be international, but may be trying to look international. Who knows at this point. JMO.
I personally don't think it's strange either (American here), especially with the vague details we've gotten about the IP being hard to track (supposedly). I do think the amount itself is interesting, but I'm not willing to speculate the significance of it besides possibilities of trying to give a certain impression with the number, if that makes sense.I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho![]()
I’ve never seen anyone in the US put “USD” behind a money amount. You’d say $6 million or 6 million dollars, not USD.I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho![]()
Its not clear to me that she wouldn't have had the apple phone with her all evening. Does the timeliness indicate when it started communicating or only when it stopped?You don't believe the pacemaker communicating with the iphone/watch is evidence she made it back home?
I suppose that situation could be manipulated but find that unlikely as it would most likely involve extra steps in the process.
That tank with the larger diameter opening could be an OLDER tank. It appears it has concrete sides and that was true on older tanks, whereas newer ones are made of some kind of composite material.Our vacation/lake house had a septic tank...that's too big an opening for septic. And the tanks are usually close to the house with the field drains going outward, downhill and away.
Pacemaker interrogation is different than the normal signals it transmits.But according to the info @Fargo gave about pacemakers, we don't know exactly when she was removed from the house. The pacemaker is only "interrogated" once a day....at night. She may have been taken much earlier than 2:28am.
Never have I once used USD living my lifetime in the US. I have used that while traveling through.I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho![]()
Thank you for the info. The headlines in other posts call it sewer or septic tank. I was skeptical about the reporting and didn't click the links. I appreciate your information. I believe you know what you are talking about.Her home is on city water. Those covers appear to be entrance points to the main water distribution system. That system, or portion thereof, may be what was outlined on the map investigators were seen carrying into the sheriff's office Friday. If a cover was off and it was dark and someone was walking along and did not know it was there, they could easily fall in.
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Not really but on the other hand I work for an international hotel chain and often have to specify USD on info requests and sometimes I find myself putting USD on non-work related things without thinking so I don’t read much into the USD either.I don't think stating usd behind a number is that strange tbh. Hypothetically, When i ask for 100 euro, i state "euro" because if i say can i have 100? I probably get a reply like "100 what, gummies?" Idk if it's same in US tho![]()
That's a thought, yes. Or even asked for NG's help.I can imagine them discussing the finances (that could be comingled by that time) and I can imagine if the push was too huge, Nancy grabbing her cellphone to call Savannah or Camron, to talk to them about it, and her SIL grabbing it from her hand and her accidentally falling.
The rest, however, seems too planned.
Well, if Savannah's finances were in any way the topic, it only illustrates how right SG was in keeping her in-law as far from her life as possible!
I imagine a different situation. Could a provincial and not too savvy BIL, knowing that his SIL rubbed shoulders with "the famous and the mighty", harbor the hope that SG could promote his music to the top of the charts? Something irrational. Just my idea.
I would imagine that with her profile, the bank would advance the funds. Possibly even with additional guarantee from her employer. She could reimburse out of her assets under less time-sensitive duress. Her husband reportedly is wealthy, too.
and they finally get to this after one week. Apparently there has been no one out there at night. Hard to believe.I think this is a good thing because you don't want people going on the property and tampering with a crime scene.
And that’s an interesting detail. Why would you put USD because duh, of course this is America so why would you specify that?Never have I once used USD living my lifetime in the US. I have used that while traveling through.
She uses a cane.