AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Zeta74]

My doubts about the ransom notes are increasing.

I never had anything but doubts. My only questions are whether this is a JBR situation (fake ransom to cover murder) or some unrelated opportunistic looking for money. The delayed timing makes me think it’s the latter.

 

[Justice101]

I’ve mentioned that I live in NG’s neighborhood. Several people here as well as folks I know who live close to main roads, even outside of this neighborhood, had LE visits over the weekend. They want footage from any cameras facing these main roads: Oracle road and 1st Ave are the two I can personally confirm.

Oh, they've probably got that and much more with the manpower assigned to this case.

 

[Tugb0ats]

The second ransom note has to be real, right? What would be the purpose of the kidnapping otherwise? There has to be some incentive for the abductor.

 

[Athos65]

Ran inside to leave a phone, for example?

jmo

In the realm of wild speculation, but it takes just a moment to do something like that if you are young and fit enough. Me? Ah, that's another matter...with my cane on a bad day, and the slope in the driveway...no chance, but...a younger person, potentially, could accomplish this.

Not everyone locks the door that goes from garage to house, and this would be easy if that were the case. Or, of course, if there was access to NG's keys.

Just opinions formed while scrubbing dishes. Not fact or firm assertion.

 

[SMK777]

The second ransom note has to be real, right? What would be the purpose of the kidnapping otherwise? There has to be some incentive for the abductor.

If there actually was a real abduction for ransom in the first place.

 

[Tugb0ats]

If there actually was a real abduction for ransom in the first place.

True, but if it wasn't what else would it be? A cover up for something else?

 

[Trino]

if BIL TC is involved there are others that actually were there that night. I have never thought he was the one himself to take her.I think she is either right in the immediate area or might be over the Mexican border. Border is tight but has gaps as outlined to BE by. a former border control person.

And she could have been over the border before anyone knew she was missing.

 

[Justice101]

The second ransom note has to be real, right? What would be the purpose of the kidnapping otherwise? There has to be some incentive for the abductor.

Did I read it was just a comment on the TV/radio feedback webpage that proved it was from the person who sent the 1st ransom note?

 

[Van Helsing]

I wonder if LE checked AG and husband's phones (or any other potential POIs') for health monitoring data for the night of 2/7, especially if they were wearing Apple Watches. That would tell a lot, such as activity levels during the night. If there is no data for that night, or a shortish period starting before the disappearance, that might be pretty informative too.

 

[Inthedetails]

In the realm of wild speculation, but it takes just a moment to do something like that if you are young and fit enough. Me? Ah, that's another matter...with my cane on a bad day, and the slope in the driveway...no chance, but...a younger person, potentially, could accomplish this.

Not everyone locks the door that goes from garage to house, and this would be easy if that were the case. Or, of course, if there was access to NG's keys.

Just opinions formed while scrubbing dishes. Not fact or firm assertion.

I'm not suggesting NG ran inside to leave her phone, but that someone else did. And put it in a unexpected location for the "ransom note writer" to know, to prove he was the abductor.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

True, but if it wasn't what else would it be? A cover up for something else?

An effort to misdirect by the person responsible, or some random opportunist trying to cash in on the situation.

 

[soap mama]

Agree. She wasn't dumb. Someone maybe banging at the door that she knew. Told her there was an emergency. The maybe grabbed her hard and her skin ripped and she dripped blood or she was punched in the nose.

Like many of you, I don't think this was a kidnapping per se... an (eventual) murder and taking her to kill her elsewhere and dump the body.

IF it was for inheritance, I think the body would have been easier to spot and not burried or hidden.

WILL WE EVER FIND OUT WHO DID THIS???

but it is said that the first ransom note knew things about the inside of the house that were specific to this case and that evening.

 

[Emerald1328]

I’ve always been a bit perplexed as to why they stopped the search so quick. I understand that it’s likely they realized pretty quickly that something nefarious had happened and they didn’t have a simple wandering case going on. However, it seems that occasionally if someone is abducted and harmed, they will be found discarded somewhat close to the abduction site. I’m surprised they didn’t search more, just in case she was left close by. But then again, with the quick release of the house and coming back a few times, maybe I’m not surprised.

 

[turaj]

Maybe she regularly checks on her mom- especially if she is alone at night.

I sort of think we will find that a friend did call her. In any event I think it likely that she looked in on her mother very often. As the closest daughter she was the one that kept things going at NG's house so she could stay independent. No doubt the first call and contact for NG in Tucson. Something going on at home..NG would call AG. As to how involved TC was we don't really know but my guess is he helped NG a lot too. That said.... not ruling them out.

 

[SMK777]

True, but if it wasn't what else would it be? A cover up for something else?

Yes. A cover up story done in a panic as a misdirection -- after an accidental injury or killing. And others are now trying to cash in. Just my own theory and opinion, of course.

 

[Inthedetails]

In theory, JMO. We don’t know if this is a true fact, I can’t stress this enough, and somewhat regret mentioning it. Although it’s a rumor, anyone can go listen to the podcast and hear it for themselves, so it’s not something I just made up.

JMO I’m not an expert by any means, but I think blood from coughs and sneezes would be much smaller droplets of a different shape. The droplets on the porch look more like something dropped straight down from the source, IMO

It's not hard to imagine that if someone were punched in the face, sputum would come out as well as blood.

I speak as someone who attended too many boxing matches in my younger years.

jmo

 

[SaraSmile]

if BIL TC is involved there are others that actually were there that night. I have never thought he was the one himself to take her.I think she is either right in the immediate area or might be over the Mexican border. Border is tight but has gaps as outlined to BE by. a former border control person.

Agreed that TC was not the one to actually remove, harm NG. Maybe, He got some other “ friends” to do that.
I always thought someone drove about 10 miles out of town, dropped body in desert, sorry to say. No need to cross border. Desert is vast, lots of country dirt roads, drivable washes. Scrub oak, tumble weed hiding places.

Someone noted ( MOO), after 3 weeks, a body has dried to just bones, looks like sticks. Sorry. Very, very dry in AZ, even at this time of year.

JMO

 

[VTHOMM]

If any of the family members were involved with fabricating the ransom note, how would any of them "slip away" from LE scrutiny to be able to send the second note (or post on the comment sections of an APP).. you would think they are being digitally watched by LE with hacking software.

I don't have an opinion re: family member involvement, however SG's family are all very intellgent and it's not difficult anymore to find someone to find someone to find someone else that can do the work for you. No one is considered suspects right now - that said, they can get a lot done.

 

[LRinCA]

I wonder if LE checked AG and husband's phones (or any other potential POIs') for health monitoring data for the night of 2/7, especially if they were wearing Apple Watches. That would tell a lot, such as activity levels during the night. If there is no data for that night, or a shortish period starting before the disappearance, that might be pretty informative too.

My heart rate jumps every time I get up to go to the bathroom. Also, a Sleep Number bed shows exactly how long you were in bed, how long it took to fall asleep, etc. Actually, my Fitbit indicates that as well, but not in bar chart form.

Correction: the Fitbit also shows a bar chart type sleep pattern throughout the night.

 

[minazoe]

watching the flow of the investigation

AG's Home
to
NG's Home

and the area in between.

mOO